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Awaken the Dragon for Somerset/West Country
Nice idea but I'm not sure there are enough active editors & I don't have any time to work on it at present.— Rod talk 17:26, 30 April 2016 (UTC)
@Rodw: People had the same worries about Wales, we've made it happen! You'd need time to work on it of course which if you haven't got it then it can't be done. But I'm sure we could get people interested in doing one for the West County or southern England. When do you think you might have more time to contribute?♦ Dr. Blofeld 17:30, 30 April 2016 (UTC)
- I will have more time after I've marked 13 dissertations & approx 70 other essays - so June ish ( but going to Glastonbury Festival end of June). I would suggest floating the idea on the relevant wikiprojects listed on the talk pages of South West England or West Country (but we can't even agree on definitions of the area).— Rod talk 17:39, 30 April 2016 (UTC)
Perhaps User:Hassocks5489 and User:Jaguar would be interested in a WP:Atdrag for southern England?I'm not going to have time to judge every one but if I had the support could certainly set up a few new ones and somebody else be given the responsibility of running it.♦ Dr. Blofeld 17:32, 30 April 2016 (UTC)
- @Dr. Blofeld: Yes, I'd be interested in that (ideally towards the second half of the year). As Jaguar says below, it would motivate me to start some long-awaited but long-put-off geographical articles! Hassocks5489 (Floreat Hova!) 12:56, 6 May 2016 (UTC)
@Rodw: I still have some others in mind, including a regional one in Wales so nothing would be immediate but we could consider doing one in the summer if we can get support for it. I'm particularly fond of the West Country and think it would be great fun to do one for that area, but if we have some interest from southern England it could cover the south of England. I will keep it in mind anyway.♦ Dr. Blofeld 17:43, 30 April 2016 (UTC)
- I would be interested in putting together the "core list" & have been trying to work on more "vital articles" but wonder what the criteria for these would be? I could do some subjective lists of what I think is most important, starting with county articles etc, but perhaps the better measure would be popular pages (eg Somerset, Bristol, Devon, Cornwall etc which are often headed by biographies - not the sort of thing I normally work on.— Rod talk 17:57, 30 April 2016 (UTC)
- @Rodw: A core list like Wikipedia:WikiProject Wales/Awaken the Dragon/Core articles would be extremely valuable I think as it can be referred to even after a contest and during the year and long term. It does take a while to generate but if you roughly base it on that achievable in a few months, and things can go from there. If you see the article improvements and creations for this at the bottom of the main WP:Atdrag page this has been quite extraordinary, I don't think we've ever seen something like this happen on here before. It stands out a mile from other contests as so many core and stale articles have been improved. And it's something which I'm sure could be replicated for the South West if given a chance. A few dedicated editors on board and you can get the ball rolling. The core list for now is something to keep in mind amidst your hectic schedule!♦ Dr. Blofeld 18:05, 30 April 2016 (UTC)
Starting on the core list, roughly create some main topics like Architecture, Culture, Geography, History, Politicis/Law, Sciences, Sport, Transport etc. Imagine an Ark for the West Country and what would go in it. Roughly 200-250 articles for each if possible, Start with Top/high importance assessed topics and sort them into subjects. Obviously Grade I listed buildings are the start for architecture, major towns, rivers and counties a start for Geography, major train stations/lines and roads for Transport etc it'll start to take shape. Doesn't have to be perfect, but roughly something which captures some of the important articles.♦ Dr. Blofeld 18:10, 30 April 2016 (UTC)
- I've made a start at User:Rodw/sandbox2 feel free to edit.— Rod talk 20:15, 30 April 2016 (UTC)
@Rodw: A good start, remember to embolden ones though you consider the most important, Level I core in bold and Level II normal. The ones you'd give more points to people for editing. Virtually all of the ones you've added to date I'd have thought. Can't commit time to this yet but might be able to look more at it next week.♦ Dr. Blofeld 20:18, 30 April 2016 (UTC)
- I would love to help start an English county contest, but unfortunately Hampshire isn't in the West Country - it's in the south east. I've been wanting an excuse to build a lot of villages to GA for months, but I wouldn't feel motivated to do that outside of a competition. JAGUAR 11:42, 1 May 2016 (UTC)
- ... you never know - Jaguars in the West Country?? Martinevans123 (talk) 12:25, 1 May 2016 (UTC)
- Haha, yes, that's true!♦ Dr. Blofeld 12:26, 1 May 2016 (UTC)
- ... you never know - Jaguars in the West Country?? Martinevans123 (talk) 12:25, 1 May 2016 (UTC)
I'd suggest consolidating all of the military base articles into a general military section and add any Army or RAF units that have strong associations with one of the counties. I'd recommend against adding any ships that were built in the West Country, however defined, unless they have a strong association with the area because of their name, etc. Forex, the various HMS Cornwalls would qualify, but not HMS Aurora (1913) because she was just Devonport Dockyard-built. Might be worth adding in all the various castles as well.--Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 17:51, 3 May 2016 (UTC)
- Give me a nudge if it happens, I'm Westcountry born and bred :) WormTT(talk) 18:14, 3 May 2016 (UTC)
Diolch
You've worked incredibly hard on this. I hope you get some kind of reward in heaven. Deb (talk) 19:55, 30 April 2016 (UTC)
LOL! Thanks Deb. I wish I had more time for article creations but running and planning the contest I'm afraid takes a lot of time! When I see others working hard and putting in the effort I reflect that. It creates a positive environment for everybody, as opposed to the usual sort of grumpy atmosphere many editors face on here! What I love about this most of all is how beautiful Wales looks. The articles and photographs often looking stunning. It makes us proud to be Welsh and that this is all part of our heritage! ♦ Dr. Blofeld 19:58, 30 April 2016 (UTC)
- Ah Blowers, you're so grounded. And besides, you'd soon get bored, as "nothing ever happans". Martinevans123 (talk) 12:18, 1 May 2016 (UTC)
- I'm not the most patriotic of people but Wales does have a lot of scenic places and buildings!♦ Dr. Blofeld 12:21, 1 May 2016 (UTC)
- And wonderful Wikipedia editors, of course Martinevans123 (talk) 12:30, 1 May 2016 (UTC)
- I'm not the most patriotic of people but Wales does have a lot of scenic places and buildings!♦ Dr. Blofeld 12:21, 1 May 2016 (UTC)
Dr. Blofeld, i do understand the burden you have on your head with the dragon edit-a-thon. When you are really free, can you please leave your comments there? I wish to make Eega a FA and i opine that your suggestions would help me improve it. Regards, Pavanjandhyala (talk) 09:50, 1 May 2016 (UTC)
Won't be until later next week that I can look at this.♦ Dr. Blofeld 09:52, 1 May 2016 (UTC)
- There is no time limit for this. You can leave your suggestions any day before it gets archived, as per your interest and convenience. Cheers! Pavanjandhyala (talk) 09:56, 1 May 2016 (UTC)
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This one seems to have been created a little while ago at Church of St Michael, Cilycwm. —Xezbeth (talk) 13:19, 1 May 2016 (UTC)
Cheers Xezbeth. Be on the lookout for some doubles over the next day or two coming in as a lot weren't linked earlier. Shows you how damaging it can be sometimes when people shut off red links! Can you spot any doubles in the red links in Wikipedia:WikiProject Wales/Awaken the Dragon/Missing article hotlist?♦ Dr. Blofeld 13:36, 1 May 2016 (UTC)
- I don't think there are any more, though some of the articles use different subdivisions so it's hard to be certain. —Xezbeth (talk) 14:22, 1 May 2016 (UTC)
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"This user has reduced his workload on Wikipedia"
Yet you still shepherded the "Awaken the Dragon" editing contest? I should be so inactive. (Maybe I could have entered & achieved a few points.) In any case, congrats on a successful editing campaign, & hope it was fun for you! -- llywrch (talk) 17:05, 2 May 2016 (UTC)
Thanks. Well, yes, this month quite the opposite haha. It depends on whether WMUK will continue to support this or not on whether you enter another one. I think it would be good to do one for Anglesey/Gwynedd in a few weeks, perhaps a 10 day-2 week destubbing one. Rodw has also expressed an interest in doing this for the West Country. We'll see how WMUK respond to this one first!♦ Dr. Blofeld 18:19, 2 May 2016 (UTC)
- Can't believe I got to 1000! You've done a brilliant job, even though the complexities of the scoring were sometimes a little beyond me! Deb (talk) 21:13, 2 May 2016 (UTC)
Cheers Deb. That's what made it more challenging I think, but at times yeah a little complex for comfort. Just blue linked all the remaining Grade I buildings in Vale. Can you flesh a few out? Especially St Cadoc's Church, Llancarfan, I've been meaning to start that for almost ten years! ♦ Dr. Blofeld 21:38, 2 May 2016 (UTC)
- Outstanding work, Dr. B. That was a massive effort on your part. Well worth it, for what it produced and as a template for others. Thank you. --Tagishsimon (talk) 01:12, 3 May 2016 (UTC)
Cheers Tagishsimon. I really think you could cleanup most of the encyclopedia eventually if you scaled this sort of thing!♦ Dr. Blofeld 06:52, 3 May 2016 (UTC)
- Sadly it turns out it's fractal in nature, and has self-similarity when magnified. All of those articles which got pushed up from stub to start and start to c, etc, got replaced by a new wave of stubs. And, what's worse, new male biogs outnumbered new women biogs by a ratio of about 20:1. Upshot: the mess is now bigger than it was. Still, err, well done. I think. --Tagishsimon (talk) 07:09, 3 May 2016 (UTC)
- No, the mess is not now bigger than it was, that's incorrect and offensive to the people who contributed. More important articles were destubbed and cleaned up over this and more than the number of footballer stubs created. Yes, I know on those footballer stubs, I've expressed similar concerns offwiki on both those drilled stubs and the Women in Red cause. I didn't want to upset the creator of them, but it was never about article count, it was about quality/core improvements. If we host anonther one there could be points for improvement those footballer stubs. I suspect a lot of them are permastubs and should probably be redirected.♦ Dr. Blofeld 07:39, 3 May 2016 (UTC)
Something like Wikipedia:The British Isles De-stub-athon would work I think. Destubbing articles I think needs to have more focus on here...♦ Dr. Blofeld 07:49, 3 May 2016 (UTC)
- Here's a diff of the WP:Wales article quality table, 3 April - today (presuming that all articles got a WP:Wales template - and that's certainly not the case, though I've added a few hundred over the last couple of day, and presuming the Wikiworks engine is up-to-date ...). Even with partial counting, it broadly supports the de-messification thesis. (And I agree, facetiousness aside, that the mess is improved and that the undertaking was well worth it - don't get me wrong.) Perhaps going forwards, creation of a stub should get the minimum - 1 point, but creation of a Start or better gets a more substantial score. Awarding negative points for creating a stub too severe, I guess. And female biog improvements might get *20 points or some startling multiplication factor to reflect the lamentable gender imbalance. --Tagishsimon (talk) 09:24, 3 May 2016 (UTC)
Class | Change |
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FA | 1 |
FL | 1 |
FM | 0 |
GA | 50 |
B | 1 |
C | 44 |
Start | 345 |
Stub | -81 |
List | 14 |
Assessed | 392 |
Unassessed | -58 |
Total | 334 |
That's interesting, but there's still a ton of articles not assessed during this. You've not accounted for the core/higher importance articles which got improved either. And not all stubs are bad. The ones on listed buildings in particular are mainly decent. I did a fair bit on the Grade I listed ones which were priority to create. I'll be fleshing out the Vale ones I started today. Remember that stubs were largely prohibited during the whole month. There was no points for anything less than a start class. I relaxed it for a few days. Perhaps in future ones the minimum 1.5 kb of readable prose should remain constant.♦ Dr. Blofeld 09:31, 3 May 2016 (UTC)
- Just goes to prove all the aphorisms about statistics! Seriously though, the table shows a serious improvement in the coverage of Wales on Wikipedia (and also the gaps in how we assess the importance and quality of articles). I would love to see the figures on male/female biographies but with the autogenerated footballers removed since you could regard them as a statistical aberration... I've no idea what tagging/tools are available but a query on new welsh articles (start or higher) split by female biog/male biog/gender neutral articles would be interesting.
- The other outcome of the competition is a number of lists of articles that need creating or improving. These will be a great help in possible future editathons, eg focusing on say, a preserved county or a principal area.
- I'd also like to see a list of, for example, 500 welsh articles that should be GAs. No competition, just a list that people can work on collaboratively for a year or so. Before the contest I had Lady Llanover and Grace Williams in mind as articles that could be seriously improved but realised I needed to do a lot of background reading and searching for sources that are not readily available to do justice to both topics in the time frame of a month's contest.
- Finally, it's been a fun month of virtual touring round Wales! Robevans123 (talk) 11:14, 3 May 2016 (UTC)
Proposed deletion of Kekasih rembulan
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Re: stubs
Will see what I can find for them. We hope (talk) 21:49, 2 May 2016 (UTC)
Cheers. I'll flesh a few out tomorrow, but knackered now! ♦ Dr. Blofeld 21:53, 2 May 2016 (UTC)
Hi
Hi there, I've been wandering if you could have a look at THIS article that I've been working on recently and review it. My main focus would be the grammar, punctuation etc as English is not my first language, so mistakes could have been made easily. Thanks in advance. Regards. ArturSik (talk) 10:54, 3 May 2016 (UTC)
Happy 😊 Birthday!!
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@Wseef: Cheers! Isn't it your birthday too as well today? If so happy birthday too! Audrey Hepburn is a May 4th er too!♦ Dr. Blofeld 19:03, 4 May 2016 (UTC)
- Seconded. Happy birthday! Hope you've had a good day away from Wikipedia! JAGUAR 21:03, 4 May 2016 (UTC)
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OMG, it's today?? Well, it's just about 9pm in LV, so I'm getting these wishes in in the nick of time! Happy Birthday, Dr. B. Hope it's a really wonderful year. --Rosiestep (talk) 03:57, 5 May 2016 (UTC)
- Thankyou Jaguar/Rosie!!♦ Dr. Blofeld 08:54, 5 May 2016 (UTC)
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- Chiming in a with belated birthday greeting. I hope that the day was glorious. Cheers. MarnetteD|Talk 01:43, 5 May 2016 (UTC)
Haha, thanks both, not that late wishing me in UK time, jsut an hour or so!♦ Dr. Blofeld 08:54, 5 May 2016 (UTC)
Happy Birthday!
Belated Happy Birthday Dr. Blofeld. You inspire so many people here and me. I hope you did well on your day. Wishing you all the happiness in life and more.....Krish | Talk 05:07, 5 May 2016 (UTC)
Thanks Krish.♦ Dr. Blofeld 08:54, 5 May 2016 (UTC)
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FAC
Hey Dr. Blofeld! I just re-nominated Kalki Koechlin's article for FAC, since you have been a part of the previous discussions I would appreciate your comments. Thank you! NumerounovedantTalk 12:48, 6 May 2016 (UTC)
Nomination of Emil Beurmann for deletion
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It's mouse time!
Hi Doc, I hope you are enjoying your very well-earned break following the fantastic Dragon project. When you have recovered, would you be able to visit the FAC for Walt Disney, which is now open for comment? Cheers! – SchroCat (talk) 07:37, 7 May 2016 (UTC)
Sure Schro, forgot about that! Just doing some stuff with archiving the contest and sorting things out. Will try to look at in on the weekend, thanks!♦ Dr. Blofeld 07:43, 7 May 2016 (UTC)
The West Country challenge
Hi, Thanks for your message. Yes I would like to see something along the lines of Awaken the Dragon & I think "The West Country challenge" would be a good title. If you'd like to set up an initial outline of pages at Wikipedia:WikiProject England/The West Country challenge I will then add to it and then contact the other local wikiprojects to gauge interest and get their input.— Rod talk 09:51, 7 May 2016 (UTC)
@Rodw: Sure I'll do that over the weekend. You can then move your core list to Wikipedia:WikiProject England/The West Country challenge/Core list.♦ Dr. Blofeld 10:10, 7 May 2016 (UTC)
@Rodw: I've made a start on Wikipedia:WikiProject England/The West Country Challenge. Feel free to move your sandbox core list into the red link. Will spend more time on this next week.♦ Dr. Blofeld 11:54, 7 May 2016 (UTC)
- Wikipedia:WikiProject England/The West Country Challenge/Missing article hotlist is getting a bit long & unwieldy - any ideas on format to make it require less scrolling?— Rod talk 20:06, 8 May 2016 (UTC)
@Rodw: Use div col|3 div col end. Like this. Three columns for missing ones seems good enough.♦ Dr. Blofeld 06:44, 9 May 2016 (UTC)
- You did the stubs list for Bristol but I'm now looking at Category:Stub-Class Cornwall-related articles & see over 2,000 articles. Do we need to put them all on Wikipedia:WikiProject England/The West Country Challenge/Cornwall & if so is there a quick/automated way to do this?— Rod talk 08:53, 10 May 2016 (UTC)
A lot of stubs, yep. Roughly ten pages. Quickest way will be to just quickly copy and paste and then use the replace tool. I'll do it shortly.♦ Dr. Blofeld 09:06, 10 May 2016 (UTC)
- Thanks. Could you work the same magic on Category:Stub-Class Devon articles to Wikipedia:WikiProject England/The West Country Challenge/Devon please?— Rod talk 19:06, 10 May 2016 (UTC)
Somerset pics - how about four out of:
- File:Pulteney Bridge, Bath 2.jpg
- File:Cathedrale de wells front ouest.JPG
- File:Brean Down from Steepholm - geograph.org.uk - 93827.jpg
- File:Glastor.jpg
- File:River Brue at Butt Moor Bridge, near Butleigh Wootton - geograph.org.uk - 730609.jpg
Or any you like.— Rod talk 08:53, 14 May 2016 (UTC)
Have you thought about a Geonotice to "advertise" the West Country Challenge to everyone in the relevant counties? I've never requested one but thought it might be useful to reach local editors who don't look at wikiprojects etc.— Rod talk 18:50, 14 May 2016 (UTC)
Annamayya
Glad you liked the film. It is one of my favourite films, esp. the scene where the lord manifests before the protagonist in the climax at the temple is something i always cherish. Pavanjandhyala (talk) 15:28, 7 May 2016 (UTC)
Yes, quite a spiritual experience.♦ Dr. Blofeld 15:34, 7 May 2016 (UTC)
- When i visited the real temple, it wasn't like the one we watch in the film. Still, it was magnificient, almost like a well-engineered palace. The long (may be some 8 to 10 ft) statuette of the lord, standing in the darkness with only a small lamp being the source of light, was nothing less than majestic. The thought of what happened to the real Annamayya used to give me goosebumps. Pavanjandhyala (talk) 15:41, 7 May 2016 (UTC)
Wales tagging
Got 'em all, I think. Anything else you'd like? --Ser Amantio di NicolaoChe dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 07:56, 8 May 2016 (UTC)
- You caught me at a propitious moment. :-) --Ser Amantio di NicolaoChe dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 08:11, 8 May 2016 (UTC)
Thanks! :-)
Am still working at the Vale church stubs with old books and newspapers. I think most to all will end up with more information. :-) We hope (talk) 17:13, 8 May 2016 (UTC)
Oops Indeed
Sorry - was meaning to send thanks to User:Cwmhiraeth for another Anglesey scheduled monument but (with a slow connection at the moment) the Vandal button appeared where it was Thanks before... You beat me to the revert. Great to see someone working on scheduled monuments. Hope Cwmhiraeth manages to take lots of photos on their forthcoming trip to Anglesey! Robevans123 (talk) 09:53, 9 May 2016 (UTC)
Haha, yeah I could see it wasn't intended! I'll get the Anglesey/Gwynedd page up in a day or two.♦ Dr. Blofeld 09:55, 9 May 2016 (UTC)
- Most of the ancient monuments on Anglesey have images, and when away from an internet connection, it's difficult to know what photographs are required. I suppose if I was more organised I could make a list in advance. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 10:02, 9 May 2016 (UTC)
Films seen
I had a feeling you wouldn't give a bold italic rating for Kalyana Parisu (a pretty excellent film IMO but too melodramatic, especially in the later half). I'll catch up on Look Back In Anger sometime soon in the weekend. As for the next challenge, why not Puthiya Paravai vs. Hush… Hush, Sweet Charlotte? Both are from the same year and are thrillers. — Ssven2 Speak 2 me 10:49, 10 May 2016 (UTC)
I am Cuba and Black God, White Devil are much superior films from 1964, but if you want to see Hush Hush go for it, a deal ;-). It's very good but just not Baby Jane level. I am Cuba is in my top 50 for a reason, a brillant made film that any film buff definitely needs to see. Black God is a "cinematic force of nature", I can think of no better description. I'm sure MarnetteD will agree on both! The Soft Skin also another masterpiece from that year..♦ Dr. Blofeld 11:03, 10 May 2016 (UTC)
I am Cuba at Rotten Tomatoes. Read the comments. 100% rating on 32 reviews for a very good reason!♦ Dr. Blofeld 11:13, 10 May 2016 (UTC)
- I am Cuba vs. Karnan right after Puthiya Paravai vs. Hush… Hush, Sweet Charlotte.
— Ssven2 Speak 2 me 09:01, 11 May 2016 (UTC)
LOL!! OK! Deal ;-)♦ Dr. Blofeld 09:27, 11 May 2016 (UTC)
SE England version
Yep, I'd be up for that in the autumn (should have some more time then). I'm happy to help organise. I imagine Kent, Sussex, Surrey, Berkshire, Bucks, Oxon, Hampshire and the Isle of Wight are in scope? Hassocks5489 (Floreat Hova!) 13:10, 10 May 2016 (UTC)
@Hassocks5489: Yup you could include all those and probably London too, though at some point I can envisage London having its own one. I don't want to start too many as it's a lot of responsibilty, but helping set things up and running the initial one and giving the responsibility to somebody else I think would work. Perhaps in the next few months you could work on a core list for the Southeast like the one for Dragon Wikipedia:WikiProject Wales/Awaken the Dragon/Core articles and West Country anyway.♦ Dr. Blofeld 13:37, 10 May 2016 (UTC)
Olivia de Havilland
Hello Doctor. Thanks again for fitting the GA review into an obviously crowded schedule. I just wanted to let you know I initiated a peer review and would appreciate any further feedback or guidance. You can add your comments to the peer review page. Regards, Bede735 (talk) 21:33, 10 May 2016 (UTC)
Guitar
Hi there, I'm curious about whether you know of any solid reference books for the various parts of a guitar? I noted that most of those sections in guitar are unsourced. I have a lot of guitar books, but they mostly focus on the history and different makes, plus notable players. I suppose we might be left with needing to check out luthier books? --Laser brain (talk) 19:01, 12 May 2016 (UTC)
There's a few books which deal with terminology and coverage of the parts of the guitar I think. The article is probably best largely started from scratch I think if you're having trouble sourcing!♦ Dr. Blofeld 19:14, 12 May 2016 (UTC)
Nomination of Udupi Jilla Alpasankhyatara Vedike for deletion
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The article will be discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Vartakara Sangha until a consensus is reached, and anyone is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.
Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article. Rathfelder (talk) 22:01, 13 May 2016 (UTC)
Scheduled monuments in Anglesey
I've added Anglesey articles on scheduled monuments to Awaken the Dragon. It's turned into a bit more than a list, but hopefully people will find it useful. Robevans123 (talk) 09:57, 14 May 2016 (UTC)
Excellent work!♦ Dr. Blofeld 10:10, 14 May 2016 (UTC)
- Very nice!--Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 14:03, 14 May 2016 (UTC)
Drmies
Finally I met some well-respected editor who spoke the truth about Drmies. HighInBc (zero article created till today) and Drmies both don't deserve to be Administrator. Sagaciousphil was blocked for personal attacks. While Drmies's favourite editors get only warning for calling someone "Bitch" and making personal attacks again and again and again (but never blocked, as they are Drmies's favourite editors). This is a project where Technical13 gets banned, but disruptive editors are allowed to survive with shorter blocks. --223.176.6.73 (talk) 16:37, 14 May 2016 (UTC)
Hi ip, don't know who you are. I've always strongly respected Drmies and have always considered him one of our best editors. He has done some tremendous work with translation and been of great assistance at times, but I've pretty much always had mixed signals from him on a personal level and have often got the impression he resents me a bit, even if he approves of my work. I've noticed that ever since I criticized him for saying some really quite abusive things one time he's taken every opportunity to brandish the civility card. I'm not disputing that Chillum/High in BC wasn't correct following procedure, but I do know that him and Cassianto have an extremely long history of disagreement and that it doesn't look right him being the one to do to the block. I'm sure Chillum could produce some good content if he put his mind to it, but I do think it's sad that he seems to sit around waiting to pounce on people, he did it with Eric too. It's fair criticism, so when I see Drmies turn up and brandish the civility stick defending poor admin conduct it is pretty disappointing to see such an individual act like that.♦ Dr. Blofeld 17:01, 14 May 2016 (UTC)
email failed
I received a notification that I got an email from you. However I don't see any email from you in my inbox or spam folder. I confirmed my email address in my preferences so I am not sure why it did not work.
Not sure what happened there. Regardless when dealing with issues where I am being accused of bias, I prefer to keep all communication open and public. While I did not get your e-mail but your are welcome to talk with me on my talk page or here. HighInBC 17:47, 14 May 2016 (UTC)
@HighInBC: Yes, I thought you might have something set up like that. I wanted to put in a word to you in response to Drmies feeling I'd somehow been out of order in criticising you. Something along the lines of "I know from that time you tried to patch things up with Cassianto that beneath the tough cop facade you're not all that bad. I really have nothing against you personally, but you and Cassianto have such a long history of disagreement and hostility I had to be honest that it really doesn't look right you being the one to block him. C'mon, you can let another admin do the blocking and stay out of it. It does look like you were waiting to pounce on him. I appreciate some of the work you do in policing the site, but I do wish you seemed more interested in the content side of things. I'm being honest. I don't want to offend you, but I think it's time there was an interaction ban between you and Cassianto and you blocking him."♦ Dr. Blofeld 17:54, 14 May 2016 (UTC)
Note that I could have very easily been abusive but tried to approach you in a manner that Lord Drmies himself would approve of. I think it's really out of order you being the one to block Cassianto given your history. I strongly suggest that you two avoid this in the future. Basically a way to try to get you to stay away from Cassianto.♦ Dr. Blofeld 18:01, 14 May 2016 (UTC)
- I appreciate your civility. It makes these matters far nicer to work through.
- Interaction bans are decided either by the community or arbcom. Generally both require evidence of actual disruptive behaviour. I am happy to have my actions reviewed by either and will always respect their consensus.
- I think this discussion is getting more than a little fractured. I feel that I have responded to your concerns about administrative involvement and how I came upon this edit war on my talk page[1]. While I have interacted with this editor in an administrative capacity in the past I don't see anything that would constitute inappropriate involvement as we define it. The relevant part of the administrative policy is WP:INVOLVED which talks about when I must recuse myself.
- The short version is that prior administrative interaction with a user does not constitute involvement with a user that would require me to recuse myself. If you think I have some sort of bias that precludes me from dealing with this user then please present evidence of this to me or another admin for consideration. I will give it consideration, and ask other admins for a sanity check if I still disagree with you. HighInBC 18:50, 14 May 2016 (UTC)
Thanks for the response. See, that's part of my criticism though, on a website which is essentially an encyclopedia, a content building website, that level of administrative debate and providing such evidence should never really be needed. It would be very time consuming to propose something, and it's time which would be better put into content. I've always said that "common sense" should be applied to any situation on wikipedia rather than set rules and any decision made revolve primarily around content. When I see you and Cassianto bickering and then a block I look at it from a content production point of view, is this a good or a bad thing for content and does it improve the site? When you look at it from this perspective you'll understand more why I disapprove of the warring and blocking. I think it would create a better atmosphere if you two avoided each other, and that you're intelligent enough Chillum to say "Right I tried to patch things up with this editor, it didn't seem to work long term. Perhaps it's best if I distanced myself from him for the sake of the peace of the site". If you did just that I'm sure there's no shortage of other admins to carry out punishments for certain things like 3RR. I'm glad that you at least acknowledge that you might have issued a warning first.♦ Dr. Blofeld 19:00, 14 May 2016 (UTC)
- While I appreciate that you have reiterated your position I don't think you have substantiated your concerns about my involvement. I feel that edit warring does call for a response from an uninvolved admin, and policy agrees. Warnings tend to be most effective with users who are not aware of the rules, I think this user has a lot of experience and knows how things work.
- You have provided little in the form of evidence, just a quote without a diff. It is difficult to respond to quotes from me when you don't provide a diff, I do a lot around here and I can't remember every conversation I have had. My words were most likely part of a larger context, likely an administrative context. HighInBC 20:11, 14 May 2016 (UTC)
- FYI the e-mail problem seems to be due to this bug which is being worked on now. HighInBC 22:14, 15 May 2016 (UTC)
When I've needed a paratrooper...
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Content Paratrooper Award |
Dr. Blofeld, You are one of the greatest content producers on Wikipedia, and when I've needed a paratrooper, you have always been there for me. I know there's negativity associated with getting the work done, and some of us -e.g. me- avoid those conversations like the plague, but I hope you know that you are appreciated. That said, let's work on some buildings this weekend! Rosiestep (talk) 18:38, 14 May 2016 (UTC) |
Aw thanks mi amiga! I've done zilch this month though haha, We hope on the otherhand has fleshed out most of my Vale building stubs and warrants a medal! WH and myself intended to get Llandaff Cathedral up to GA status. Needs more on architecture, don't know if you are interested. I think there's even a book on it in PD! ♦ Dr. Blofeld 18:48, 14 May 2016 (UTC)
- Was being religious and worked on church stubs. ;) Still have about 3 to go, but I stopped in the churchyard where Joseph Parry is buried and began working on his article. Uncovered an amazing fact re: Aberystwyth yesterday. The organ Parry played the hymn on for the first time is still around. The building is no longer a church, but a doctors' surgery and space for a local theatre group. The developers tried to sell the old organ, but there were no takers; they dedided to leave it where it was and simply wall the organ in. The organ is technically in the surgery. We hope (talk) 19:10, 14 May 2016 (UTC)
- Well, I created Albemarle Hotel this morning -a defunct hotel overlooking Madison Square in Manhattan- if anyone is interested. --Rosiestep (talk) 19:50, 15 May 2016 (UTC)
@Rosiestep: Most hits coming up seem to be on the one in Charlottesville and in Scarborough UK! Perhaps we should have articles on those too!♦ Dr. Blofeld 12:22, 19 May 2016 (UTC)
Nomination of Château Bel Air (Le Haillan) for deletion
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A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Château Bel Air (Le Haillan) is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.
The article will be discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Château Bel Air (Le Haillan) until a consensus is reached, and anyone is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.
Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article. GeoffreyT2000 (talk) 02:29, 15 May 2016 (UTC)
Parry
I think there's enough to shoot for GA because I still have information to add. He's sort of hard to research though, because you need to work with many different sources. Each of them has a bit of information about him--no real complete biography anywhere I've seen. We hope (talk) 14:04, 16 May 2016 (UTC)
Women film pioneers
While traveling the internet in search of Joseph Parry and others, I came across this:
https://wfpp.cdrs.columbia.edu/pioneers/
Women who were pioneers in film in front of and behind the camera. We hope (talk) 17:49, 16 May 2016 (UTC)
Looks a good source WH!♦ Dr. Blofeld 20:19, 16 May 2016 (UTC)
Possible new project, maybe
I thought you might be interested in the proposal at Wikipedia:WikiProject Council/Proposals/Universal Exports and Imports. John Carter (talk) 18:07, 16 May 2016 (UTC)
Interesting name, but a bit misleading haha!♦ Dr. Blofeld 06:56, 17 May 2016 (UTC)
- One thing I think it might be particularly useful for is, for instance, minor characters in works of fiction and the like, and, maybe, for indicating which articles which might exist somewhere out in wikia or similar might be notable and substantive enough for inclusion here. There seem to be an awful lot of wikia sites, including some of only 2 articles or so (like one on Zoroastrianism - I checked) and some other wikis, and at least one at http://www.xfamily.org/index.php/Main_Page seems to me to maybe contain some articles which might be welcome here, if they were made a bit less, well, inflammatory. And, of course, for some of the TV shows and other media franchises, it might be particularly useful. John Carter (talk) 16:31, 18 May 2016 (UTC)
Anbe Sivam PR
Hello, Doctor. I've listed the article for PR here as I wish to take it to FA. Feel free to leave comments. Thanks.
— Ssven2 Speak 2 me 01:16, 17 May 2016 (UTC)
Despite you asking not be informed about notifications, I am writing on this one because with a little research effort into the image, it may be suitable for Commons. If it's a self-portrait by the artist, it would be PD-70 as they died in 1941.Sfan00 IMG (talk) 17:23, 18 May 2016 (UTC)
Your GA nomination of Llandaff Cathedral
Hi there, I'm pleased to inform you that I've begun reviewing the article Llandaff Cathedral you nominated for GA-status according to the criteria. This process may take up to 7 days. Feel free to contact me with any questions or comments you might have during this period. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Jaguar -- Jaguar (talk) 17:40, 18 May 2016 (UTC)
Your GA nomination of Llandaff Cathedral
The article Llandaff Cathedral you nominated as a good article has been placed on hold . The article is close to meeting the good article criteria, but there are some minor changes or clarifications needing to be addressed. If these are fixed within 7 days, the article will pass; otherwise it may fail. See Talk:Llandaff Cathedral for things which need to be addressed. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Jaguar -- Jaguar (talk) 23:40, 18 May 2016 (UTC)
FLC
Hi Doc! Would you please to take a look at my FLC nomination? I would be grateful for your gesture. Krish | Talk 09:16, 19 May 2016 (UTC)
If you have time and are actually interested, i request you to review this article for GA status. Hoping for the best. Regards, Pavanjandhyala (talk) 09:37, 19 May 2016 (UTC)
If I'm going to be running these contests and trying to get back into editing too I'm really not going to have time for reviewing, so I'm going to have to start to say no to a few, sorry. I don't mind doing the occasional few, but it bugs me when I get multiple requests at once.♦ Dr. Blofeld 10:22, 19 May 2016 (UTC)
- It's okay Doctor. I understand your issues. I wish you the best for your current and future endeavours. :) Pavanjandhyala (talk) 10:27, 19 May 2016 (UTC)
Did you really enjoy watching the film? Pavanjandhyala (talk) 16:25, 23 May 2016 (UTC)
Your GA nomination of Llandaff Cathedral
The article Llandaff Cathedral you nominated as a good article has passed ; see Talk:Llandaff Cathedral for comments about the article. Well done! If the article has not already been on the main page as an "In the news" or "Did you know" item, you can nominate it to appear in Did you know. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Jaguar -- Jaguar (talk) 14:01, 19 May 2016 (UTC)
Cheers Jaguar, well done largely to We hope! The architectural coverage could still be significantly improved but it needs an expert to work through the gobbledygook and write something coherent. I think it's a decent enough overview as it is.♦ Dr. Blofeld 14:22, 19 May 2016 (UTC)
- It's not that far from FA to be honest! With a little more comprehensiveness it could pretty much meet the FA criteria. JAGUAR 14:26, 19 May 2016 (UTC)
I dunno, there's a tremendous amount of material on it which could be gleaned from old books. I know that the cathedral is mentioned in a lot of old books and documents on Wales, it's really a core article for Wales. There's is even a book on the architecture of it I think. I think it would need a lot more work for a truly comprehensive FA article but it's a decent account and well worth the effort!♦ Dr. Blofeld 14:27, 19 May 2016 (UTC)
- Congratulations, Dr. Blofeld! Pavanjandhyala (talk) 14:31, 19 May 2016 (UTC)
Congratulations!
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The GA star |
On reaching the milestone of 200 GAs by taking Roald Dahl's alma mater, Llandaff Cathedral, to GA. ![]() |
Thankyou both! Yes 200 GAs is certainly a milestone, been a long time coming!♦ Dr. Blofeld 14:44, 19 May 2016 (UTC)
A barnstar for you!
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The Tireless Contributor Barnstar |
200 GAs is truly amazing! Congratulations on this astonishing feat. Definitely something that the majority of people are never able to achieve! JAGUAR 14:51, 19 May 2016 (UTC) |
Thanks Jaguar!! Might take me a long time to reach 250 now though haha!♦ Dr. Blofeld 15:04, 19 May 2016 (UTC)
- Mis-click on my watchlist! Sorry! JAGUAR 15:17, 20 May 2016 (UTC)
Hadn't noticed haha!♦ Dr. Blofeld 15:19, 20 May 2016 (UTC)
A barnstar for you!
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The Special Barnstar |
You've given 200 GAs to Wikipedia, and are raring to make it 250. Really inspiring and remarkable. I salute your efforts! Pavanjandhyala (talk) 15:07, 19 May 2016 (UTC) |
I've sent a mail to you as well. Do check it. Though not truly interesting, that has some reality. Pavanjandhyala (talk) 15:08, 19 May 2016 (UTC)
A barnstar for you!
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The Writer's Barnstar |
Congratulations on your 200th GA. This is no easy feat. I hope to reach there someday hehe. Keep it up! Krish | Talk 15:10, 19 May 2016 (UTC) |
Thankyou both, but We hope deserves most of the credit for this haha!♦ Dr. Blofeld 15:30, 19 May 2016 (UTC)
Proposed deletion of Jesr Diyala
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The article Jesr Diyala has been proposed for deletion because of the following concern:
- Neighborhood with questionable notability, we don't need a page for every neighborhood on the planet.
While all constructive contributions to Wikipedia are appreciated, content or articles may be deleted for any of several reasons.
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will stop the proposed deletion process, but other deletion processes exist. In particular, the speedy deletion process can result in deletion without discussion, and articles for deletion allows discussion to reach consensus for deletion. Wgolf (talk) 05:38, 20 May 2016 (UTC)
Nash Manor vs Nash Manor House
Nash Manor House Nash Manor These look to be one and the same. We hope (talk) 14:23, 21 May 2016 (UTC)
Redirect one?♦ Dr. Blofeld 15:54, 21 May 2016 (UTC)
Castelo de Santiago do Cacém
Sure, I'll give it a try.--Cattus talk 23:06, 21 May 2016 (UTC)
most welcome feast of joy
pictured (not the bird, the music below), - more fun than being called to ANI. Do you remember having started the article with the DYK lead image? - Reger's Requiem is again open for FAC, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:19, 22 May 2016 (UTC)
Which article?♦ Dr. Blofeld 12:21, 22 May 2016 (UTC)
follow link pictured, look for lead image, no? - or simply most welcome feast of joy ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:22, 22 May 2016 (UTC)
Ah, very well done!! A big improvement on my version anyway LOL!!♦ Dr. Blofeld 12:27, 22 May 2016 (UTC)
Mighty oaks from little acorns grow! Indeed a most joyous feast of how Wikipedia can work really well. Robevans123 (talk) 12:35, 22 May 2016 (UTC)
Cary Grant
While writing the personal life section, do take care to write as generic about his relationship with Randolph Scott as Higham is a controversial biographer (thanks to his conjured up tales about Errol Flynn, Howard Hughes and Tyrone Power being homosexuals/bisexuals and Flynn being a Nazi spy). Nonsense. This review from nyt has lambasted the book. So have the comments by goodreads' users. — Ssven2 Speak 2 me 15:04, 22 May 2016 (UTC)
Ssven, I know. As I'm progressing through the book I'm increasingly seeing that they focus excessively on his alleged homosexuality and relationship with Scott. I'm ignoring most of it and only using what I think is useful. If it's a strong claim I'll always say Higham and Moseley claim. Perhaps it wasn't the best book to start with but this rather reminds me of RO and the Kelley book. Allow time for me to go through the books, or would you rather write the thing yourself?♦ Dr. Blofeld 15:17, 22 May 2016 (UTC)
- @Dr. Blofeld: Yeah, it looks pretty much like Kelley's account of Sinatra, which is why you reduced it later on with Kaplan's material. Same case with Grant, I suppose. Do carry on.
— Ssven2 Speak 2 me 15:24, 22 May 2016 (UTC)
I suspect the Higham book will turn out to be not much good from now on, but valuable for earlier life. Last fifty pages waffled largely about Grant and Scott, which I largely ignored..♦ Dr. Blofeld 15:31, 22 May 2016 (UTC)
- @Dr. Blofeld: The ones about Phyllis Brooks are true though (Wansell's book, Dark Angel, has a photo of them together). They did date for a brief period. — Ssven2 Speak 2 me 00:26, 23 May 2016 (UTC)
- If I didn't think a lot of it was accurate (like Kelley book) I wouldn't use it. It's a good book, but just focuses on homosexuality and silly Nazi links with Errol Flynn a lot though which I largely ignore.♦ Dr. Blofeld 09:16, 23 May 2016 (UTC)
DYK
Hello! Your review of Trefignath at the Did You Know nominations page has been challenged by another user, and some issues with it may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath the nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! North America1000 01:50, 23 May 2016 (UTC)
Notice of Conflict of interest noticeboard discussion
This message is being sent to inform you that there is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Conflict of interest/Noticeboard regarding a possible conflict of interest incident in which you may be involved. Thank you. Catlemur (talk) 18:53, 23 May 2016 (UTC)
@Catlemur: I was thinking about starting one for you: How about:
Catlemur
- Civilian casualties in the war in Afghanistan (2001–present) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
- 2016 Armenian-Azerbaijani clashes (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
- 2015 Al-Hawl offensive (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
- Inter-rebel conflict during the Syrian Civil War (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
- Kurdish Red Crescent (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
Catlemur has been involved in extensive editing of articles related to conflict in the middle east. Some of the subjects he edits like the Kurdish Red Crescent and Civilian casualties in the war in Afghanistan look like he has a COI or personal issues involving some of the subject matter. I worry that the neutrality of wikipedia may be compromised by this editor. I request that someone takes a look the articles in question just to double check that there is no COI as it seems any course of editing may be questionable these days. ;-) ♦ Dr. Blofeld 20:08, 23 May 2016 (UTC)
Notice of ANI board discussion
There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you. Catlemur (talk) 08:03, 24 May 2016 (UTC)
Look Blofeld, no one likes being dragged to a noticeboard. But violating policy to make personal mockery of someone is not the way to deal with it. I have advised Catlemur to step away from anything related to you, I suggest you do the same in return. Only in death does duty end (talk) 08:15, 24 May 2016 (UTC)
Hey, I'm going about what I do in otherwise good spirit, I didn't start the silly accusations. If he doesn't want to be made fun of, stay well away from my talk page and filing such things and I'll do the same. He's a clear troublemaker who should be admonished for trying to cause trouble. Even now with the ANI report he's trying to drag my name through the dirt. "some of which are of questionable encyclopedic value and are written in manner that promotes the subject" is a filthy lie in particular, I would never write anything for wikipedia which I didn't think met general content guidelines or wasn't reasonably neutral/well written, not even if I got paid $1 million! Sadly this is just a snippet of the outlook a lot of people have on business related articles on here so a lot of articles which actually pass GNG get thrown out because they interpret them as "adverts". ♦ Dr. Blofeld 09:44, 24 May 2016 (UTC)
You'll love this!
You'll love this, doc. That's something you don't see everyday, eh? — Ssven2 Speak 2 me 00:14, 25 May 2016 (UTC)
Cool, I'd not seen that one! I'd read about it for the Sinatra article though! Judging by Elvis's body language though I don't think he liked Sinatra much haha.♦ Dr. Blofeld 09:14, 25 May 2016 (UTC)
- Well, the king did sing a duet with Sinatra out of respect nevertheless. They should have collaborated on at least a single though.
— Ssven2 Speak 2 me 09:37, 25 May 2016 (UTC)
- Yes, though I'm sure he got paid well for the appearance, "paid singing", should have declared a COI. ;-)♦ Dr. Blofeld 09:45, 25 May 2016 (UTC)
- As Anne Bancroft would have put it, COI indeed, (FYI from 2:05)! LOL. 09:51, 25 May 2016 (UTC)
- Glad you enjoyed that, you'd like Turning Point with her and Shirley M.♦ Dr. Blofeld 09:56, 25 May 2016 (UTC)
- I watched it a month ago and still can't stop raving about it. She's really grown on me and User:Ssven2/Anne Bancroft References is something I've created for a future GA. She really led an almost peaceful, controversial-free life after marrying Mel Brooks.
— Ssven2 Speak 2 me 10:08, 25 May 2016 (UTC)
- What irks me is that there's no proper/solo biography about this amazing actress (the only biography is Seesaw, a dual biography of Anne Bancroft and Mel Brooks, which I have). — Ssven2 Speak 2 me 10:21, 25 May 2016 (UTC)
- Yes, that's surprising, you'd expect at least one!♦ Dr. Blofeld 10:58, 25 May 2016 (UTC)
- All I've got are the obituaries. Do you know anyone good at finding online references? Maybe We hope? — Ssven2 Speak 2 me 11:26, 25 May 2016 (UTC)
- There's one page here from The Italian American Experience: An Encyclopedia. This book OCLC 22805939 seems to have a few pages but only has a few snippets online, and it does not seem to be very common in British libraries (you'll need to check for Chennai...). This book OCLC 491806826 seems to get referenced often, and is in more British libraries, but I've no idea of how many pages it has. A google search of "Anne Bancroft actress biography" throws up lots of pages, but I suspect that these are mostly fairly short, and also quite likely to be derived from Wikipedia. Good luck! Robevans123 (talk) 13:46, 25 May 2016 (UTC)
- All I've got are the obituaries. Do you know anyone good at finding online references? Maybe We hope? — Ssven2 Speak 2 me 11:26, 25 May 2016 (UTC)
- Yes, that's surprising, you'd expect at least one!♦ Dr. Blofeld 10:58, 25 May 2016 (UTC)
- I watched it a month ago and still can't stop raving about it. She's really grown on me and User:Ssven2/Anne Bancroft References is something I've created for a future GA. She really led an almost peaceful, controversial-free life after marrying Mel Brooks.
- Glad you enjoyed that, you'd like Turning Point with her and Shirley M.♦ Dr. Blofeld 09:56, 25 May 2016 (UTC)
- As Anne Bancroft would have put it, COI indeed, (FYI from 2:05)! LOL. 09:51, 25 May 2016 (UTC)
- Yes, though I'm sure he got paid well for the appearance, "paid singing", should have declared a COI. ;-)♦ Dr. Blofeld 09:45, 25 May 2016 (UTC)
A yes for No?
Hi Doc, You have previously been good enough to review one of the previous Bond novels; I have recently filed Dr No, Fleming's sixth Bond novel, at PR for further consideration. If you have the time or inclination, I'd be grateful for any comments you may have. No rush and no compunction at all, obviously. Cheers – SchroCat (talk) 12:59, 25 May 2016 (UTC)
@SchroCat: Tomorrow. This place really isn't floating my boat at the moment, too many idiots around for a start!♦ Dr. Blofeld 19:41, 27 May 2016 (UTC)
- I know exactly what you mean. I've had a quiet couple of months of just getting on with stuff, and the last couple of weeks has been a car crash of morons and idiots of one sort and another! There are times I wonder what the fuck is the point. – SchroCat (talk) 19:57, 27 May 2016 (UTC)
Nomination of Trevor Merszei for deletion
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A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Trevor Merszei is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.
The article will be discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Trevor Merszei until a consensus is reached, and anyone is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.
Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article. --IJBall (contribs • talk) 17:02, 25 May 2016 (UTC)
in response...
The AFD should have been relisted, but the deleting non-admin has a reputation for almost never using WP:BEFORE despite polite statements like "my searches have found nothing"
... which repeatedly reflects that his Google-foo is either broken or non-existant. To avoid drama, I placed it here. You are invited to visit and work on it. yes, it needs sourcing, but they do appear available. Schmidt, Michael Q. 19:43, 25 May 2016 (UTC)
Mail!
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GA standards for contested articles
I have seen some discussion elsewhere, on user talk pages, regarding the possibility of nominating an article which has extant quality tags on it for GA status. I remember at least once before when an article which was contested passed GA standards, even though there were some serious questions regarding whether the content of the article accurately represented the current best academic thinking on the topic. Has there ever been any discussion among the GA reviewers regarding how to deal with GA nominees where there might be significant questions regarding WP:MINORITY and/or WP:FRINGE issues? John Carter (talk) 23:17, 26 May 2016 (UTC)
Articles have to be stable to pass GA, so if there was something disputed it shouldn't really pass until it is resolved.♦ Dr. Blofeld 10:07, 27 May 2016 (UTC)
- The big word there is "should", unfortunately. I found one article years ago which was stable because I refused to engage in an edit war, and confined my comments to the talk page, all of which were, basically, ignored, so it was still "stable". Also, in some cases, like the more contested new religious movements which are under discretionary sanctions, one side or another can get burned out or blocked out rather easily. There are a few other cases where maybe people get tired of fighting as well. I don't suppose they happen that often, but it is a situation where one side which has "won" in a dispute in some way could take advantage of that and get something a higher regard than it really deserves. Unfortunately. John Carter (talk) 14:34, 27 May 2016 (UTC)
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