Talk:Yuri Kim (ambassador)

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: not moved. DrKay (talk) 12:50, 10 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Yuri Kim (ambassador) → Yuri Kim – Kim Jong-il was reportedly known as Yuri Kim while living in Khabarovsk, Russia during World War II. He never used or acknowledged that name publicly, North Korean biographies omit any mention that he ever lived in Russia, and he is not regularly known by the name internationally either. That is to say, anyone who might know that KJI was once known as Yuri Kim, also knows that he was better known as KJI. Meanwhile the subject of this article is publicly known by the name, which is her given Korean name. 67.180.143.89 (talk) 05:35, 25 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

• Weak oppose. A disambiguation page should be created at Yuri Kim instead, because Kim Yu-ri was also known as "Yu-ri Kim"/"Yuri Kim", and there is also Kim Yoo-ri (see page views here). All of these names are written the same way in hangul and only vary by stye of romanization. Dekimasuよ! 06:04, 25 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • The nominator, 67.180.143.89 (talk), took Dekimasu's suggestion above and at 17:25, 28 May 2022 (UTC), changed the redirect at Yuri Kim to a disambiguation page; please see Special:Diff/1090293181. Rotideypoc41352 (talk · contribs) 19:09, 28 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support the DAB being at the base name. Andrewa (talk) 05:52, 1 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
• Support I think the diplomat should be at the base name since it is the only title with an exact match and the dab should be moved to Yuri Kim (disambiguation), with a hatnote to it at the diplomat's page. MB 20:14, 28 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

• There are exact matches, though. Hyphens in the transcriptions of Korean names don't serve to distinguish one name from another (WP:NCKO#Given name), and our titles are simply not very systematic (see Yu-ri (Korean name)). I don't think this meets WP:SMALLDETAILS given that these spelling distinctions are inconsistent from source to source and even article to article within Wikipedia. Dekimasuよ! 22:37, 28 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

• Support. But even if not, it should be Yuri Kim (diplomat). -- Necrothesp (talk) 13:50, 31 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • There may indeed be something to tidy up here. Of the articles currently in Category:21st-century American diplomats only two others are disambiguated as Ambassador although there are several others that could be but are disambiguated diplomat. Andrewa (talk) 05:52, 1 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
• Comment: The possibility of other notable people with the same name did not occur to me when requesting, although it should have. With that in mind, I lean toward having the plain name as a disambiguation page. 67.180.143.89 (talk) 00:50, 2 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
• Oppose – malformed request; leave the disambig there. Dicklyon (talk) 04:37, 3 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
• Oppose target should be a disambiguation page -- 64.229.88.43 (talk) 23:10, 5 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]