Talk:Waco (disambiguation)

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Isn´t "waco" also used to describe religious zealots, conspiracy theorists, and somehow violent crazy people? --Giftzwerg 88 (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 15:10, 5 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

That's "wacko". Clarityfiend (talk) 10:28, 11 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move 10 August 2023

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

It was proposed in this section that Waco (disambiguation) be renamed and moved to Waco.

result:
No consensus. See no agreement below that this page should be moved. As is usual with a no-consensus outcome, editors can look for new arguments, strengthen old arguments and try again in a few months to garner consensus for these changes. Thanks and kudos to editors for your input; everyone stay healthy! P.I. Ellsworth , ed. ^{put'er there} 01:30, 19 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Waco (disambiguation) → Waco – No clear primary topic, at Talk:Waco, Texas#Requested move 5 August 2023 I pointed out that the city might not qualify as primary which another user agreed with. By views the city has 18,252 but the miniseries has 9,884 and Dr Pepper has 45,143[[1]]. The name of both the miniseries and the former name of Dr Pepper come from the city which suggests the city is primary by long-term significance however the city's name comes from Waco people which also has long-term significance. Some Google results are for the miniseries and the 1st Image one is for a film. Note that a history merge of the DAB from 2007. Crouch, Swale (talk) 18:14, 10 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose per WP:PRIMARYREDIRECT. I think the city in Texas is the primary topic here. Rreagan007 (talk) 19:28, 10 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Support per nomination. There are 29 entries listed upon the Waco (disambiguation) page, with no indication that Texas' 22nd-most populous city holds such an overwhelmingly dominant position that the redirect to it dwarfs the combined notability of the remaining 26 direct links and two redirects. —Roman Spinner (talk • contribs) 23:52, 10 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose Unconvincing. I don't know anyone on the planet who would ever consider "Waco" an alternate name for Dr Pepper, and a miniseries about something that happened in the city can't possibly be a true challenger for the title. Waco people is a fair enough point, but the very low reader interest (~10 views per day) suggests the current setup is good. Nohomersryan (talk) 00:26, 11 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Support. Actually, Waco siege gets significantly more page views than Waco, Texas.[2] I attribute it to the fact that when that incident happened back in 1993, the national news media used "Waco" as a short hand for that government raid against that religious cult, and reliable sources have used that "Waco" short hand ever since. Zzyzx11 (talk) 01:13, 11 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Weak oppose: The town is the default meaning. The siege was just something that happened there that will fade in readership interest as time moves on and the city continues its relevance. —⁠ ⁠BarrelProof (talk) 05:50, 11 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
- I myself would not go that far on such a crystal ball assumption that such readership would change as time moves on. It has been over 30 years since the Waco siege occurred, even before Wikipedia was established in 2001, and if I set the Pageviews Analysis back to the maximum "all time" (1 July 2015) you still get overwhelming pageviews for the seige, over 23 million versus the city's over 4 million views.[3] And despite the occasional news spikes, the siege still averages higher per day than the city. Zzyzx11 (talk) 09:28, 11 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose. The city is the primary topic. Clarityfiend (talk) 10:28, 11 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Sadly we don't have redirect support in WikiNav, but https://wikinav.toolforge.org/?language=en&title=Waco%2C_Texas does show the hatnote at #5 with 361 clicks in June, and https://pageviews.wmcloud.org/?project=en.wikipedia.org&platform=all-access&agent=user&redirects=0&start=2022-08&end=2023-07&pages=Waco shows 994 views of the Waco redirect total. It's not likely it maps perfectly to one another (so the percentage isn't ~36%), but it could well be in that ballpark, and as long as it's not in single digits that would cast significant doubt at the idea of primary topic by usage. If we disambiguate, the statistics will start to be recorded better, so it'll be possible to reassess in a few months time with better data. --Joy (talk) 17:03, 11 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose The city or the people would be the primary topic. Although, the city does have more views. Aquabluetesla (talk) 16:17, 12 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose I believe the city is the primary topic here, especially considering the siege was a specific event named after the city. SportingFlyer T·C 23:37, 14 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Support per nom, no PRIMARY.--Ortizesp (talk) 08:43, 15 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose. Primary redirect. -- Necrothesp (talk) 15:00, 16 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Support per nom -- 67.70.25.80 (talk) 04:49, 17 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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