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Hello, just noticed there is no article to state the Toxic Feminism, I see. § — Preceding unsigned comment added by Phuderoso (talk • contribs) 11:15, 29 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

What the heck is that? I have never heard of it. Dimadick (talk) 23:44, 30 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Maybe you mean "toxic femininity"? In any case, WP:FALSEBALANCE may be a useful read. —Sangdeboeuf (talk) 04:33, 31 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Read this, both of you: https://thedailyguardian.com/what-is-toxic-feminism/

You two are living in a rock. 69.113.233.201 (talk) 17:24, 5 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Not WP:RS EvergreenFir (talk) 17:35, 5 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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I want an image that I uploaded to Wikimedia Commons to be added to this page. Here is the image. https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:MasterDeanKellyToxicMasculinity.jpg This image portrays a toxic masculine man that would be a good example and provide an idea of what one would look like to the read of this article. TopDigger (talk) 15:03, 14 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

 Not done: Photo is likely a copyright violation, and we are unlikely to use a photo of a named living person to illustrate this phenomenon. Firefangledfeathers (talk / contribs) 15:19, 14 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Link to this page Terry Kupers? Joel S Bateman (talk) 10:39, 10 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Toxic masculinity has received criticism as a concept. Some conservatives, as well as many in the alt-right, see toxic masculinity as an incoherent concept or believe that there is no such thing as toxic masculinity.^{[1]: 2 [2]} In January 2019, conservative political commentators criticized the new American Psychological Association guidelines for warning about harms associated with "traditional masculinity ideology", arguing that it constitutes an attack on masculinity.^[3] David French of the National Review criticized the APA guidelines on "traditional masculinity ideology" for including "very common, inherent male characteristics" including "anti-femininity, achievement, eschewal of the appearance of weakness, and adventure, risk, and violence." French argued that these traits are not "inherently wrong or harmful," and that a proper understanding of traditional masculinity "rejects harmful extremes."^[4] APA chief of professional practice Jared Skillings responded to conservative criticism, stating that the report's discussion of traditional masculinity is about "negative traits such as violence or over-competitiveness or being unwilling to admit weakness" and noting that the report also discusses positive traits traditionally associated with masculinity such as "courage, leadership, protectiveness".^[3] Masculine traits like strength, courage, independence, leadership, assertiveness; and applying masculinity positively, can also help men manage emotions, build relationships, better communicate problems, improve life balance, and alleviate mental health concerns.^[5] Almadão (talk) 15:08, 26 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

 Not done for now: please establish a consensus for this alteration before using the {{Edit extended-protected}} template.

David French's statements here are WP:UNDUE without more authoritative sourcing than the National Review, which is a primary source for French's opinion. We generally stick to peer-reviewed scholarship and mainstream news sources, not partisan outlets like NR. —Sangdeboeuf (talk) 00:30, 27 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]