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This is more that the Kam-Tai languages, so I incorporated it in Kadai. We now have duplicate articles. I think we either need to make the Chinese classification a separate article, include this in Kadai, or cut out the non-KamTai elements. As it stands, the body of the article contradicts the title. kwami (talk) 20:43, 25 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Well, there really is a "Kam-Tai" entity that is mentioned in the literature, so at least this article should explain what that is. Badagnani (talk) 20:44, 25 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Oh, of course! When I moved the bulk of the article to Tai-Kadai, I left the material relevant to Kam-Tai, not that there was much of it. kwami (talk) 22:25, 25 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
That was a brilliant move just copying the Kam-Tai material to the article on Tai-Kadai. Now a decent editor would have taken a few steps to harmonise the material. It really is incredibly sloppy editing when a section of the Tai-Kadai article suddenly starts out with the following sentence: "In China, people who speak Kam-Tai (Zhuang-Dong) languages are mainly found in such provinces and autonomous regions as...", when the article starts out by mentioning that the Tai-Kadai are known "in China as Zhuang-Dong languages" -- no prior mention of "Kam-Tai" at all. If you really want to swap material around like this, please have the decency to make sure that the article as a whole hangs together.
It was even more brilliant to leave it where it doesn't belong. I can try to get the basics done, in the hope that others will pick up on it, or I can simply ignore such errors. I don't have time to fix them all. kwami (talk) 01:13, 26 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Everyone who's interested and knowledgeable about this subject, just take the 8 or so minutes it would take to get the article to cover all the bases and not leave anything out, and read smoothly, and we should be okay. Oh, and add a couple of sources. There should be some at Google Books. Badagnani (talk) 01:20, 26 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I started to fix the wording, but I actually don't have 8 minutes right now! kwami (talk) 01:44, 26 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
You Xiuling (1999), "Ancient Yue Spoken Language and Rice Culture", Collective Essays on Agricultural History Research, translated by Tsao W., Hangzhou: China Agricultural Publishing Co., pp. 315–319.
that would be helpful for some historical bits here and/or at Zhuang language. Very cursory treatment but shows where recent Chinese scholarship is at on the topic. — LlywelynII 09:01, 2 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]