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ALL keys matter

(response to the scale-wandering rendition of the national anthem at CPAC 2021)

The Lunatic-in-Charge becomes the Lunatic-at-Large

Lame duck à l'orange (AKA canard à l'orange)

It is a mortifying circumstance, which greatly perplexes many a painstaking philosopher, that nature often refuses to second his most profound and elaborate efforts; so that often after having invented one of the most ingenious and natural theories imaginable, she will have the perverseness to act directly in the teeth of his system, and flatly contradict his most favorite positions. This is a manifest and unmerited grievance, since it throws the censure of the vulgar and unlearned entirely upon the philosopher; whereas the fault is not to be ascribed to his theory, which is unquestionably correct, but to the waywardness of Dame Nature, who, with the proverbial fickleness of her sex, is continually indulging in coquetries and caprices, and seems really to take pleasure in violating all philosophic rules, and jilting the most learned and indefatigable of her adorers. [...] The philosophers took this in very ill part, and it is thought they would never have pardoned the slight and affront which they conceived put upon them by the world had not a good-natured professor kindly officiated as a mediator between the parties, and effected a reconciliation. Finding the world would not accommodate itself to the theory, he wisely determined to accommodate the theory to the world.

— Washington Irving, Knickerbocker's History of New York

Pela primeira vez na sua vida a morte soube o que era ter um cão no regaço.
For the first time in her life, death knew what it felt like to have a dog in her lap.

It is now generally accepted that the megaliths that make up Stonehenge were moved by human effort.

— as opposed to by what?

Anybody who says you only have yourself to blame is just not very good at blaming other people.

When poppies pull themselves up from their roots
and start out, one after the other, toward the sunset –
don't follow them.

— Slavko Janevski, 'Silence'

And the dough-headed took their acid fermentation for a soul, the stabbing of meat for history, the means of postponing their decay for civilization.

— Stanislaw Lem, Return from the Stars

The Church says that the Earth is Flat,
but I know that it is Round,
for I have seen its Shadow on the Moon,
and I have more Faith in a Shadow than in the Church.

— (commonly misattributed to Magellan)

In the early years of the study there were more than 200 speakers of the dialect, including one parrot.

— from the WP article Nancy Dorian

Mikebrown is unusually eccentric and not very bright. [...] Astronomers have not noticed any outbursts by Mikebrown.

— from the WP article 11714 Mikebrown
Ecce Mono
Keep Redskins White!
"homosapiens are people, too!!"
a sprig of spaghetti
"I've always had a horror of husbands-in-law."
anti–zombie-fungus fungus
"Only an evil person would eat baby soup." (said in all sincerity)

In case you haven't seen it

The Cambridge Planetary Science volume on Jupiter is fully available online. There's a lot of other stuff on the site it's on, too. :) Double sharp (talk) 23:33, 17 January 2022 (UTC)

(And on p.287 Io is called a "planet" in the figures. I guess it really is common.) Double sharp (talk) 23:38, 17 January 2022 (UTC)
I wonder if in that figure that's taken over from the source? In the text they distinguish planet from satellite. — kwami (talk) 01:23, 18 January 2022 (UTC)

Notice of edit warring noticeboard discussion

Information icon Hello. This message is being sent to inform you that there is currently a discussion involving you at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Edit warring regarding a possible violation of Wikipedia's policy on edit warring. Thank you. Skyerise (talk) 20:21, 19 January 2022 (UTC)

You really don't get it, do you? — kwami (talk) 20:23, 19 January 2022 (UTC)
Yes, I do. You're gaming the system. And you're a gaslighter. And you're up for 72 hours I think. Skyerise (talk) 20:40, 19 January 2022 (UTC)
Tagging direct quotes as "failed verification" is gaming the system. Falsely claiming copyvio to avoid 3RR is gaming the system. Claiming that scientists need to interview angels or they're not RS's is, well, that might be clinically insane. Either way, your edit-warring and failure to follow WP guidelines in not acceptable. — kwami (talk) 20:45, 19 January 2022 (UTC)

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Thanks for creating this page on the Ewe Wikipedia. There is only a picture here and I am not sure why it is labelled as 'xexe' The page is linked to Earth on the English Wikipedia. So far as I am aware, earth is not xexe in Ewe. It is anyigba. Am I mistaken?--Natsubee (talk) 01:12, 20 January 2022 (UTC)

@Natsubee: You may be right. I was going off Jacques Rongier's Dictionnaire français–éwé, where for 'terre' they have ànyí, ànyígbá for the sense of 'matière, pays' (e.g. 'it rained a lot; the earth (ànyígbá) is saturated with water') and xéxé, xéxémè for the sense of 'monde' (e.g. 'in our day, one can easily circumnavigate the Earth (xéxé)').
But according to the reverse index, xéxé is 'dehors, terre' and xéxémè is 'monde, terre, universe, temps'. Ànyígbá is 'terrain, terre, sol, parcelle, territoire, zone, pays, nation, continent,' and ànyígbá ƒé nɔ̀nɔ̀mè is 'globe terrestre'.
kwami (talk) 01:58, 20 January 2022 (UTC)

other astrological Haumea and Makemake symbols

Here (1:30). Uses circle+down-arrow for Eris. Double sharp (talk) 13:27, 21 January 2022 (UTC)

Thanks. That would seem to explain where the alt Makemake and Haumea glyphs come from, then. I've only seen the alt Makemake in actual use once (I think Solar Fire uses it), and the other only in decorative use. Do you think Seltzer came up with the Eris arrow glyph, then? That's what it sounds like.
What of recent use of the PL monogram? I know NASA had it up in a list of symbols, but it would be nice to cite actual astronomical use. — kwami (talk) 13:42, 21 January 2022 (UTC)
I remember seeing it in Physics and Chemistry of the Solar System (p. 64), but that's 2004. Double sharp (talk) 15:36, 21 January 2022 (UTC)
Pre-DP, but that might work. Contrasts the monogram in a list of planets vs the other symbol in list of DPs. Also, I like the numbers. 33% Saturn vs 55% Jupiter, makes sense of the resonance pulled Jupiter out of the inner SS. — kwami (talk) 16:00, 21 January 2022 (UTC)

If Europa is a terrestrial world, then maybe Eris should also be one?

Its density (~2.5 g/cm3) seems to be high enough to indicate that it must be mostly rocky. Double sharp (talk) 15:38, 21 January 2022 (UTC)

80% Europa's density. Seems reasonable, esp. if it's rock w an ice shell. But at those temps it might be ice mixed w rock, a bit rockier than Ceres at 72% Europa's density. I'd be surprised if we could fine a ref. — kwami (talk) 15:50, 21 January 2022 (UTC)
Best I could find was that article saying it's mostly rocky and that Planetary Society article: There is a lot of overlap between terrestrial and icy worlds. Some that are usually thought of as icy worlds, like Eris and Europa, are actually mostly rock and metal with only a thin veneer of ice and/or water on top. Though this is also an article that classes Europa as icy, so doesn't prove much.
I suspect Eris has active cryovolcanism, because of its Enceladus-like albedo. Its size and density means it should have enough fission decay to allow that, and tidal forces from Dysnomia (with a non-zero eccentricity, and with apparently Eris close to but not quite tidally locked) could quite reasonably be enough for activity. Pity we probably won't get to see it for a long while. Double sharp (talk) 19:01, 21 January 2022 (UTC)
Interesting. Hopefully the Webb can get a clearer picture.
I wonder if Dys ever got into HE from tidal damping or the heat of its formation. Phoebe suggests that a lot of KBOs might be in equilibrium shapes, if they're far enough out to not have been disrupted by subsequent impacts. But then Grundy et al. suggest most aren't. Given that we're not going to have spacecraft any time soon, I really hope the Webb can dedicate some real time to this, even if it's pretty far down its list of priorities. — kwami (talk) 21:09, 21 January 2022 (UTC)
Well, we're probably in luck. The Webb's website mentions Eris: Webb will observe Mars and the giant planets, minor planets like Pluto and Eris - and even the small bodies in our solar system: asteroids, comets, and Kuiper Belt Objects. That said, might not see much.
Yes, Phoebe vs Salacia is striking. OTOH Phoebe was likely captured early on when the realm of the giant planets was much more active; perhaps Grundy could also be right, and the KBOs that never got hurled inward simply never got the kicks that Phoebe did? (In that case we annoyingly can't really find much else to compare it with since no other "normal" irregular satellites are that big.) On yet another hand, Phoebe is quite dark, suggesting that maybe albedo is not as good as a proxy as Grundy et al. have it. Quaoar and Gonggong, after all, are not particularly bright, but they are so large that I can't believe they could fail to be solid. (Or could they? Tethys is about the size of Quaoar, and its density is so super-low that it could have significant porosity even if we assume it's almost all ice.)
I really couldn't say for Dysnomia. Its size is a thermal measurement, and judging from the history of measurements for Varuna, this might be a few hundreds of kilometres off either way. Since the current size corresponds to a Salacia-like albedo, I'd find it less surprising if it was smaller, but who really knows at this point.
I think this comment is a massive ramble that says nothing but "we need more than just Pluto-Charon as a sample of intact trans-Neptunian dwarfs to study". BTW, CNSA has some plans for Quaoar, so at least we might get a slightly bigger sample examined up close even if it's not Eris or Haumea. Double sharp (talk) 00:14, 22 January 2022 (UTC)
Quaoar would be nice. But probably 50 proposals for every one that flies, so we'll see! — kwami (talk) 00:40, 22 January 2022 (UTC)