Talk:Jennie (singer)/Archive 1
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Place of birth
Three highly reliable Korean sources (which are still in the article as you havent removed them, so what the sources are saying is contradictory to the article's text) are citing Seoul as the PoB, only crap sources like e!online are saying Anyang because they took that from fan sites or Twitter or something, even the Korean Wikipedia is having Seoul. Find Korean sources that says "Anyang" or I will restore the edits. Kyunghyang Shinmun (sports.khan.co.kr), DongA Ilbo and JoongAng Ilbo (mnews.joins.com) are MUCH more relialbe then the sources you added Snowflake91 (talk) 14:13, 21 July 2019 (UTC).
- I’d like to point out that multiple editors have left messages on your talk page regarding your article reverts, and this seems to be a repeating pattern. Sources do not have to be in Korean, they can be any language, and being Korean does not automatically make it more reliable than any other language. You asked for sources, and when they’re provided you dismiss them. I have no input on where she was born because honestly I have no interested in it, but you’re coming across quite bitey. Considering this seems to be an ongoing dispute which needs settling, I’m going to tag some editors whose usernames I remember and know edit similar articles, starting with the editor who your message is aimed at; @Apettyfer, Explicit, DanielleTH, Abdotorg, and Evaders99:. Alexanderlee (talk) 14:51, 21 July 2019 (UTC)
- I'm not going to comment on any editing behavior further than the following, we can claim that Snowflake91 might be not the kindest editor and likes to press the revert button allot without adequately or clearly explaining why but Apettyfer seems absolutely convinced he is right and has not started any discussion himself (including moving the page and changing the naming around against naming convention policy) and also called Snowflake91 ignorant in the edit summary. Let's keep it just on the sourcing side for this specific article and this specific sourcing issue since that is the problem for this dispute. If anyone has problems with these editors imho they should discuss it on the relevant editors talkpage. With that out of the picture; First thing I always go for is WP:KO/RS, A list made by the community which to me seems applicable here, check what it says there then check the source if it corresponds. Is it not on there no problem, we don't have many non Korean sources on there, just use common sense, BBC, CNN, times etc. as an example are all reliable of course so in case of non Korean sources use your own best judgement. Does this mean that sources on WP:KO/RS are always better or more accurate? not at all! Infact the claim that only Korean sources should be accepted to update the place of birth is clearly not correct. But lets check this specific instance. The 3 sources currently used (as stated by Snowflake91) are all clearly on the reliable section of the list which seems pretty solid verification of the place of birth. Using Korean Wikipedia as a reference might not be the most solid argument, but it uses at least one of the same references there and one could consider that if the information was wrong on a "home" wiki it would be changed quicker than on the English version. Now it could be that these reliable sources all made a mistake so it is worth to look at the new sources provided by Apettyfer, which is this eoline link. I have to say that in my opinion this immediately raises red flags for me. While Snowflake91 might not bring it in the most kindest way this article reads like a gossip or fan article to me. "5 Things You Didn't Know About BLACKPINK's Jennie Kim"? there are plenty of sources that publish articles like these on the unreliable section of WP:KO/RS. Lets take a look at what the article states anyways. "1. Jennie was born in Anyang, on the outskirts of Seoul". That's it. All of the new information available. Not supported by anything else. Where did they get this information from? No one knows... This clearly is not a reliable source. It is fine that Apettyfer provided a new source claiming otherwise, however in my opinion the new source provided does not outweigh the present information already in the article. Unless better sources are provided I have to say that we should leave it as it currently is with the note that that we should always consider new information if more comes available. --Redalert2fan (talk) 16:19, 21 July 2019 (UTC)
- Anyang is also mentioned by e.g. the South China Morning Post[1] Given that it's not uncommon in Asia to name the nearest large city as your place of birth or residence, which for Anyang would be Seoul, I would say that Anyang is likely to be correct. Almond Plate (talk) 17:57, 21 July 2019 (UTC)
- Thanks for finding another reliable source, this quite opens up the debate. I would like to note that Cheongdam-dong specifically is mentioned instead of Seoul which seems more accurate than just the closest large city example (which I do agree is quite often the case). Taking a quick look at the map these 2 (Cheongdam-dong and Anyang) are very (extremely) close together, making me a bit divided on what is or can be correct. Its not that it's half a country difference. However this does make me think why would a source claim such a specific section of Seoul as Cheongdam-dong when they are going by the principle of the nearest large city? Apart from contacting YG entertainment or Jennie herself and asking precisely/exactly what her POB is this might be a hard one to decide on. If anyone has more reliable sources I think its good if they post for both sided actually, claiming Anyang, Seoul, Cheongdam-dong, Gangnam-gu or whatever else so we can get a general overview. Unless people think I'm giving undue weight to one side, I am all in for finding best option. --Redalert2fan (talk) 18:28, 21 July 2019 (UTC)
- @Almond Plate We cannot assume that they listed the nearest large city, any more sources for Anyang? Googling "Anyang Jennie" gives only SCMP and that unreliable E! Online. Or simply leave it empty and mention only that she was born in South Korea if there are conflicting sources, but Anyang cannot be included as long as Seoul reliable sources prevails in quantity. And by the way, that first source specially lists all Seoul-born idols in the first paragraph, and then Gyeonggi-do based idols in the second (including Anyang), so it cannot be a mistake as they would then list all Anyang people as Seoul-born. Jennie is listed in the 1st paragraph, Xiyeon for example, which is from Anyang, is listed in the 2nd. Snowflake91 (talk) 18:38, 21 July 2019 (UTC)
- Channel Korea and the k-pop wiki also mention Anyang. That's about it (IMDb carries no weight). Almond Plate (talk) 19:21, 21 July 2019 (UTC)
- Of course those sources are completely unreliable, especially ANY "wiki" site. Snowflake91 (talk) 19:47, 21 July 2019 (UTC)
- If you say so. With no strongly convincing source either way (like an interview or the YG Entertainment website), I suggest we just mention South-Korea. Almond Plate (talk) 20:06, 21 July 2019 (UTC)
- Or Seoul Capital Area, which includes both Anyang and Seoul. Snowflake91 (talk) 20:16, 21 July 2019 (UTC)
- Yes, sounds fine to me. Almond Plate (talk) 20:32, 21 July 2019 (UTC)
- Or Seoul Capital Area, which includes both Anyang and Seoul. Snowflake91 (talk) 20:16, 21 July 2019 (UTC)
- If you say so. With no strongly convincing source either way (like an interview or the YG Entertainment website), I suggest we just mention South-Korea. Almond Plate (talk) 20:06, 21 July 2019 (UTC)
- Of course those sources are completely unreliable, especially ANY "wiki" site. Snowflake91 (talk) 19:47, 21 July 2019 (UTC)
- Channel Korea and the k-pop wiki also mention Anyang. That's about it (IMDb carries no weight). Almond Plate (talk) 19:21, 21 July 2019 (UTC)
- @Almond Plate We cannot assume that they listed the nearest large city, any more sources for Anyang? Googling "Anyang Jennie" gives only SCMP and that unreliable E! Online. Or simply leave it empty and mention only that she was born in South Korea if there are conflicting sources, but Anyang cannot be included as long as Seoul reliable sources prevails in quantity. And by the way, that first source specially lists all Seoul-born idols in the first paragraph, and then Gyeonggi-do based idols in the second (including Anyang), so it cannot be a mistake as they would then list all Anyang people as Seoul-born. Jennie is listed in the 1st paragraph, Xiyeon for example, which is from Anyang, is listed in the 2nd. Snowflake91 (talk) 18:38, 21 July 2019 (UTC)
- Thanks for finding another reliable source, this quite opens up the debate. I would like to note that Cheongdam-dong specifically is mentioned instead of Seoul which seems more accurate than just the closest large city example (which I do agree is quite often the case). Taking a quick look at the map these 2 (Cheongdam-dong and Anyang) are very (extremely) close together, making me a bit divided on what is or can be correct. Its not that it's half a country difference. However this does make me think why would a source claim such a specific section of Seoul as Cheongdam-dong when they are going by the principle of the nearest large city? Apart from contacting YG entertainment or Jennie herself and asking precisely/exactly what her POB is this might be a hard one to decide on. If anyone has more reliable sources I think its good if they post for both sided actually, claiming Anyang, Seoul, Cheongdam-dong, Gangnam-gu or whatever else so we can get a general overview. Unless people think I'm giving undue weight to one side, I am all in for finding best option. --Redalert2fan (talk) 18:28, 21 July 2019 (UTC)
- Anyang is also mentioned by e.g. the South China Morning Post[1] Given that it's not uncommon in Asia to name the nearest large city as your place of birth or residence, which for Anyang would be Seoul, I would say that Anyang is likely to be correct. Almond Plate (talk) 17:57, 21 July 2019 (UTC)
- I'm not going to comment on any editing behavior further than the following, we can claim that Snowflake91 might be not the kindest editor and likes to press the revert button allot without adequately or clearly explaining why but Apettyfer seems absolutely convinced he is right and has not started any discussion himself (including moving the page and changing the naming around against naming convention policy) and also called Snowflake91 ignorant in the edit summary. Let's keep it just on the sourcing side for this specific article and this specific sourcing issue since that is the problem for this dispute. If anyone has problems with these editors imho they should discuss it on the relevant editors talkpage. With that out of the picture; First thing I always go for is WP:KO/RS, A list made by the community which to me seems applicable here, check what it says there then check the source if it corresponds. Is it not on there no problem, we don't have many non Korean sources on there, just use common sense, BBC, CNN, times etc. as an example are all reliable of course so in case of non Korean sources use your own best judgement. Does this mean that sources on WP:KO/RS are always better or more accurate? not at all! Infact the claim that only Korean sources should be accepted to update the place of birth is clearly not correct. But lets check this specific instance. The 3 sources currently used (as stated by Snowflake91) are all clearly on the reliable section of the list which seems pretty solid verification of the place of birth. Using Korean Wikipedia as a reference might not be the most solid argument, but it uses at least one of the same references there and one could consider that if the information was wrong on a "home" wiki it would be changed quicker than on the English version. Now it could be that these reliable sources all made a mistake so it is worth to look at the new sources provided by Apettyfer, which is this eoline link. I have to say that in my opinion this immediately raises red flags for me. While Snowflake91 might not bring it in the most kindest way this article reads like a gossip or fan article to me. "5 Things You Didn't Know About BLACKPINK's Jennie Kim"? there are plenty of sources that publish articles like these on the unreliable section of WP:KO/RS. Lets take a look at what the article states anyways. "1. Jennie was born in Anyang, on the outskirts of Seoul". That's it. All of the new information available. Not supported by anything else. Where did they get this information from? No one knows... This clearly is not a reliable source. It is fine that Apettyfer provided a new source claiming otherwise, however in my opinion the new source provided does not outweigh the present information already in the article. Unless better sources are provided I have to say that we should leave it as it currently is with the note that that we should always consider new information if more comes available. --Redalert2fan (talk) 16:19, 21 July 2019 (UTC)
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Name order?
Isn't "Kim" Jennie's last name? She is a Korean, yet her article does not follow WP:NCKOREAN#Name_order. Is this because her first name sounds Western or is it due to the fact that she's lived in New Zealand and the Korean name convention isn't appropriate for some reason? I mean she is Korean by nationality and she only lived there for 5 years, so would her name not follow WP:NCKO? Katabatic03 talk 04:40, 6 August 2020 (UTC)
- It's apparent that the western name order is her preferred name. Nearly all sources use "Jennie Kim" when not referring to her by her mononym, not "Kim Jennie" or other variants, so Wikipedia should do the same thing. ɴᴋᴏɴ21 ❯❯❯ talk 04:51, 6 August 2020 (UTC)
- Ah, okay. She prefers it that way. Katabatic03 talk 04:53, 6 August 2020 (UTC)
- I agree with Katabatic03's earlier statement. The perfect example for this is referring to Sandara Park. Because Jennie is Korean, the way Korean media addresses her is the primary factor, not the western media. Both were born in South Korea, resided there during their childhood then studied overseas before returning again. Only difference is, when not referring Jennie by her mononym, majority of the time she's referred as "Kim Jennie": ([2][3]) unlike Dara who is widely referred to as"Sandara Park" by the Korean media: ([4][5]). Also she never explicitly mentioned she prefers "Jennie Kim" over "Kim Jennie". In South Korea when not introducing herself by her mononym, she refers to herself as "Kim Jennie". Again referring back to the earlier example, even Dara introduces herself as "Sandara Park" in South Korea and not "Park Sandara". Suugaapio (talk) 05:55, 13 August 2020 (UTC)
- No, this is not Korean Wikipedia, this is English Wikipedia.
Personal, organization, and company names should generally be romanized according to their common usage in English sources
. The fact is that nearly all English sources refer to her as "Jennie Kim", see [6], [7], [8] and [9]. If this is the naming order that nearly all reliable English sources use, then English Wikipedia will reflect that. ɴᴋᴏɴ21 ❯❯❯ talk 06:42, 13 August 2020 (UTC)- The main problem here is consistency. Jisoo's page says her full name is Kim Ji-soo. That makes it very confusing. If the main criteria is whether English-language sources refer to them with their family name first or not, that's more or less an explanation. But there is no apparent reason why the sources do it differently with Jisoo and Jennie, so I still think it should be consistent. 95.112.9.41 (talk) 00:11, 18 August 2020 (UTC)
- I don't see anything that's worth fixing. Consistency is not a priority here. Wikipedia is simply a mirror of information that has already been published through other reliable sources, and is not a publisher of original thought. Since Jisoo is the only member to not have lived outside of Korea, then it makes total sense that sources will leave her name in Korean naming order, as compared to the other members who have either been born or lived in western naming order countries for a significant period of their lives. ɴᴋᴏɴ21 ❯❯❯ talk 02:13, 18 August 2020 (UTC)
- The main problem here is consistency. Jisoo's page says her full name is Kim Ji-soo. That makes it very confusing. If the main criteria is whether English-language sources refer to them with their family name first or not, that's more or less an explanation. But there is no apparent reason why the sources do it differently with Jisoo and Jennie, so I still think it should be consistent. 95.112.9.41 (talk) 00:11, 18 August 2020 (UTC)
- No, this is not Korean Wikipedia, this is English Wikipedia.
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There is inaccurate information which I would like to edit Koobibestboy (talk) 08:13, 5 June 2020 (UTC)
- @Koobibestboy: What information is incorrect? Please state changes you want to be made to the article, along with reliable sources to support. Alex (talk) 08:15, 5 June 2020 (UTC)
jennie is main rapper in blackpink based from TIME.com article MsLily86 (talk) 16:23, 21 September 2020 (UTC)
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Change studied in New Zealand at the age of eight to age of ten, she studied when she was 10. 2001:8003:5026:E400:18ED:C0A3:2C17:F8AC (talk) 06:00, 15 October 2020 (UTC)
Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. ɴᴋᴏɴ21 ❯❯❯ talk 13:13, 15 October 2020 (UTC)
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As of October 2020, Jennie is the second most followed Kpop singer on Instagram with about 34.9 million followers. Macymacysag (talk) 13:11, 2 November 2020 (UTC)
Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Asartea Talk | Contribs 13:15, 2 November 2020 (UTC)
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Jennie Kim is the main rapper of Blackpink. 184.64.190.6 (talk) 05:34, 26 November 2020 (UTC)
- Provide reliable sources stating such Evaders99 (talk) 08:15, 26 November 2020 (UTC)
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Pavithra mia (talk) 18:19, 27 September 2020 (UTC)
Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Redalert2fan (talk) 18:42, 27 September 2020 (UTC)
I want to fix her official position in the group. Kimnishivoo (talk) 23:18, 26 November 2020 (UTC)
Main Rapper, Lead Vocalist, and Center
I think it would be right to fix her position, the page isn’t correct. Kimnishivoo (talk) 23:20, 26 November 2020 (UTC)
- No sources were provided stating that Jennie is those positions in the band. Please provide sources before changing. D🐶ggy54321 (let's chat!) 23:21, 26 November 2020 (UTC)
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My suggested change is to add rapper instead of singer in parentheses since her main position in her representative group (BlackPink). She is the main rapper of the group and if anyone was to look her up they would be given false information and instead think her main position in the group is a vocalist or in other words singer. She does sing but her main role in the group is a rapper therefore I think it would only be right to change the description (singer) to (rapper). Jenniesmanduzz (talk) 01:27, 28 December 2020 (UTC)
Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. D🎅ggy54321 (ho-ho-ho) 01:39, 28 December 2020 (UTC)
Filmograpy
Jennie has been host of inkigayo and MBC countdown why it's not mentioned Tanziba Tajrian (talk) 12:36, 15 January 2021 (UTC)
- Do you have sources? You need reliable sources to have information be put on Wikipedia. This is especially true for pages (biographies) of living people, as Wikipedia has a special policy on that. D🎊ggy54321 (happy 20 years of Wikipedia!!) 12:48, 15 January 2021 (UTC)
Jennie is first a Rapper not singer
Jennie's main profession is Rapping, shes a singer too, however she trained for almost 7 yearts to become a rapper, she's blackpink's main rapper(most skilled/best), her discription should be Jennie(rapper), cause she's known as that first and is recoginized as one of the best female rapper of the 3rd generation Moonlight Entm (talk) 05:08, 14 January 2021 (UTC)
- Moonlight Entm, An idol's "position" in a group does not alone dictate Wikipedia's standards of notability. Jennie is listed as predominately a singer because .. she is. Being the most skilled as you claim her to be is purely subjective and not relevant in this case. In most of her songs, she is shown to be singing, not rapping; even with her song "Solo", she sings for 90% of the time. It's hard to believe that she's more notable as a rapper than a singer. But if you can provide several reliable sources that specifically state otherwise, then further considerations can be made. ɴᴋᴏɴ21 ❯❯❯ talk 20:50, 14 January 2021 (UTC)
Jennie is not first a singer, if she sings way more than rapping in blackpink songs is because YG doesnt let her rap much she even said it herself, more notable for sure, everyone knows that her singing abilities are not on par with her rapping ones, jennie is blackpink's main rapper for something, she can rap slow/fast/(different registers)/in more than 5 genres/has better enunciation/rythm/she's the most versatile and is not an opinion is a 100% fact no one cant deny, the woman even said she enjoys rapping more, when she first contribuited in songwriting in blackpink's songs the first thing she did was writing her "lovesick girls" rap part Moonlight Entm (talk) 21:00, 15 January 2021 (UTC)
- Again, that is 100% subjective assessment and carries no weight. If she is actually more notable as rapper than a singer, then sources would reflect that. ɴᴋᴏɴ21 ❯❯❯ talk 21:27, 15 January 2021 (UTC)
For sure, look and read the articles entirely https://www.ibtimes.com/jennie-kim-net-worth-blackpink-rapper-may-not-be-k-pop-groups-richest-member-3055709
https://time.com/5562946/blackpink-k-pop-everything-to-know/ Says "main rapper who also sings"
Is not fair for jennie, even chaeyoung of twice who is the main rapper of the group, but also sings way more because of their label, has her Wikipedia with the "Chaeyoung is a rapper" first Moonlight Entm (talk) 13:56, 22 January 2021 (UTC)
- @Moonlight Entm: Okay, thank you for providing some reliable sources. However, I still have some concerns—even when those two sources say "main rapper" who also sings, those are only reflecting the company position that YG Entertainment has given them; also Lisa is just referred to as a dancer but there are no claims to change her disambiguation to dancer. There are many sources as well that introduces her in "singer-rapper" format, just like the article's lede currently does. (See Billboard, Forbes, Korea Herlad, IB Times, Yonhap News, Hollywood Reporter) Although the previous things you said might be true, at the end of the day Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, and reflects information that represents reality and circulates through reliable sources. Changing her disambiguation to rapper only signifies that she raps more than sings, which is not the case. ɴᴋᴏɴ21 ❯❯❯ talk 15:08, 31 January 2021 (UTC)
It is the case, she raps more cause is her main profession, what YG signed her to, is her main focus, is like a title to her, that's her role in the group, it doesn't matter if she sings more, she doesn't have a singing position, she's only a "main rapper", and the only reason why YG makes her sing more, is because Jennie has an accessible/wider range than the other member jisoo, and is also fluent in English while jisoo is not, the girl has wrote raps instead of singing lines too Moonlight Entm (talk) 20:31, 2 February 2021 (UTC)
Jennie is a rapper, just change the disambiguation to rapper, it's that hard? Boloboi (talk) 06:29, 22 February 2021 (UTC)
Daesang Award
Hello, Jennie won a Daesang Award back in 2020, why it is not yet updated ? I thought it would be by now. Can someone add it please, thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by ITIRIKBP (talk • contribs) 19:50, 1 March 2021 (UTC)
- @ITIRIKBP: Daesang for which award ceremony? And where is the reliable source? Is it notable award ceremony? — Paper9oll (📣 • 📝) 01:07, 2 March 2021 (UTC)
Jennie first a rapper(deleted section)
They deleted my long discussion about Jennie being first a rapper than a singer, cause she is Moonlight Entm (talk) 23:44, 14 March 2021 (UTC)
- @Moonlight Entm: There are only 4 edits [10] found from your account and none of them are
long discussion
but some minor changes only. - If you referring to edits done by your another account, please note that it is considered sockpuppetry. — Paper9oll (📣 • 📝) 01:07, 15 March 2021 (UTC)
- @Paper9oll: there's actually more than four if you look at their contributions or the talk history rather than searching how you did, that link is only showing edits to the main article and not the talk page. @Moonlight Entm: nobody has deleted the discussion, it has been archived and you can find it at Talk:Jennie (singer)/Archive 1#Jennie is first a Rapper not singer. Alex (talk) 06:42, 15 March 2021 (UTC)
- @Alexanderlee: Oh I see, I thought Moonlight Entm was referring to main article lol. Thanks for the heads up. — Paper9oll (📣 • 📝) 06:48, 15 March 2021 (UTC)
- @Paper9oll: there's actually more than four if you look at their contributions or the talk history rather than searching how you did, that link is only showing edits to the main article and not the talk page. @Moonlight Entm: nobody has deleted the discussion, it has been archived and you can find it at Talk:Jennie (singer)/Archive 1#Jennie is first a Rapper not singer. Alex (talk) 06:42, 15 March 2021 (UTC)
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Main rapper and Lead vocalist of Blackpink 2A01:CB08:88A3:6700:99E5:9B1D:323A:5BBA (talk) 22:52, 12 April 2021 (UTC)
Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. MadGuy7023 (talk) 23:49, 12 April 2021 (UTC)
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Jennie is the Face of The Group of Blackpink 183.171.16.59 (talk) 17:27, 2 July 2021 (UTC)
- You have not requested any edits be made to the article, but "face of the group" is fancruft and won't be added to the article. Alex (talk) 17:33, 2 July 2021 (UTC)
She debuted as the main rapper of south Korean girl group blackpink in 2016
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Pretty baby55 (talk) 23:11, 15 July 2021 (UTC)
I believe that this should be added to her profile
Pretty baby55 (talk) 23:12, 15 July 2021 (UTC)
Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 00:18, 16 July 2021 (UTC)
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JENNIE is the MAIN RAPPER of BLACKPINK not just a singer in the group.Since her main role is rapping and not singing, i believe the label "singer" next to her name should be exchanged with "rapper" 2A02:587:4B09:775F:389F:3ED2:9F50:23F2 (talk) 18:54, 26 August 2021 (UTC)
Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 19:03, 26 August 2021 (UTC)
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under the “fashion” section, there’s a couple of lines about her vocal coach that have nothing to do with fashion. maybe find somewhere else for it. 209.93.185.206 (talk) 09:14, 1 September 2021 (UTC)
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Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Eevee01(talk) 12:22, 5 September 2021 (UTC)
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————- Please update the “Fashion” section:
Jennie Kim was announced to be the new Global Ambassador of Calvin Klein recently. She became the first female Korean ambassador of Calvin Klein.
Also fix the credits for her song “SOLO”:
Please include her writing and choreography credits for her Solo song, she was credited on Genius as the co-writer and co-choreographer. She also confirmed she co-wrote her song.
Thank you in advance! ———— FactInterpreter (talk) 16:14, 11 September 2021 (UTC)
Place of birth
(Continuation of archived discussion)
As it currently is in the article, the cited sources directly contradict the article text. Both sources specifically say that she was born in Seoul. Some sources even specifically saying Chungdam, which is a district of Seoul. Saying "Seoul Capital Area" is unnecessarily broad. It's like saying "Bay Area" instead of "San Francisco". I propose that we either
A) change the article to match the cited sources
B) add additional reliable sources to the section showing that there is contradicting information. --DerPaul (talk) 01:13, 7 September 2021 (UTC)
- As there were no objections, I changed it to Seoul. If anyone wants to change it back, please provide specific reputable references that contradict the already included references. --DerPaul (talk) 11:31, 11 October 2021 (UTC)
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Jennie is a South Korean Singer-songwriter,rapper,composer and a fashion editor and stylist.She is born and raised in South Korea.She lived in New Zealand for 5 years at age of 9 to 14. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 49.144.233.88 (talk) 07:29, 17 December 2021 (UTC)
- So? What request do you want to make? —Ctrlwiki • talk • 07:35, 17 December 2021 (UTC)
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Semi-protected edit request on 25 December 2021
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Jennie (rapper and singer) 73.178.34.238 (talk) 22:18, 25 December 2021 (UTC)
Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Morneo06 (talk) 22:40, 25 December 2021 (UTC)
Semi-protected edit request on 16 January 2022
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Jennie is 25 not 26 (internationally) Imalixe (talk) 22:50, 16 January 2022 (UTC)
- According to who? Her birthday is Jan 16, 1996, making her 26. ɴᴋᴏɴ21 ❯❯❯ talk 22:54, 16 January 2022 (UTC)
Mononymous
Why is there any need to mention in the lede that she’s known mononymously when the title of the article is just “Jennie” rather than her full name? It’s obvious she’s known mononymously because of that and also throughout the article Jennie is referred to by her first name only. FriendlyFerret9854 (talk) 20:27, 17 April 2022 (UTC)
- This is pretty standard practice for Kpop idol stage names - one, because the article title may not be the way the reader got to the article and two, the encyclopedic format would apply WP:SURNAME to the article instead. Evaders99 (talk) 21:36, 17 April 2022 (UTC)
Requested move 18 May 2022
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The result of the move request was: Wiithdraw, I did not look at Jenny (given name), my bad. ɴᴋᴏɴ21 ❯❯❯ talk 18:52, 18 May 2022 (UTC)
– Per WP:PRIMARYTOPIC, she is by far more notable than the other "Jennies" looking at WP:Pageviews, which are already naturally disambiguated. ɴᴋᴏɴ21 ❯❯❯ talk 01:32, 18 May 2022 (UTC)
- Requested move of associated disambiguation page. Rotideypoc41352 (talk · contribs) 04:02, 18 May 2022 (UTC)
- Oppose Jennie Garth gets equally high amounts of pageviews, and per WP:PTM, she could plausibly be referred to by the same name, "Jennie". Too generic a name to have an obvious primary topic. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 14:10, 18 May 2022 (UTC)
Update photo
Can we update her photo to the one from this year ? 98.114.215.139 (talk) 14:25, 10 August 2022 (UTC)
Semi-protected edit request on 13 August 2022
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I wanted to change Jennie’s image to a more recent one from 2022. 98.114.215.139 (talk) 10:36, 13 August 2022 (UTC)
Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Please provide an image with acceptable licensing. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 11:17, 13 August 2022 (UTC)
Move the page to Jennie (rapper)
Very first off, Jennie only position in the group is the one of a main rapper even though if she sings too, she develops as a rapper and is only in the rap line, YG has only confirmed her as a rapper, so the title Jennie (singer) is not accurate, specially since there are a lot of singers named "Jennie", even fellow member Lisa's page is named "Lisa (rapper)" which is very ironic since she has a lower rap position in the group. Moonlight Entm (talk) 00:12, 17 May 2022 (UTC)
- While going through the archive to see if their had been other discussion on this, I see this is third time you have brought this up. The WP:CONSENSUS seems to be to leave it as singer, which I agree with. Yes the label might classifier her as main rapper in group, but that is reflected in the groups page. A lot of people see Lisa as the main rapper regardless of Jennie being the "main" in the official grouping. Sources will usually call her both, and the article clearly reflect both. The dab is just for distinguishing from other Jennies. A move request to Jennie (rapper), will most likely fail, but to Jennie (musician), might be a better target as it encompasses both. WikiVirusC(talk) 00:38, 17 May 2022 (UTC)
Sources have never called Lisa the "main rapper" in fact you can search anywhere Blackpink information and positions, no reliable source will name Lisa as such, is just that Jennie has better vocal abilities and than her, and speaks english fluently so that's why she may sing more than other members like Lisa and Jisoo, she still identifies as a rapper and picked rap out of singing and rapping plus her rap skills are very well known in korea. Moonlight Entm (talk) 01:03, 18 May 2022 (UTC)
- I said a lot of people see Lisa as the main rapper, not that sources do. I said sources call Jennie both rapper and singer. WikiVirusC(talk) 19:56, 19 May 2022 (UTC)
- rappers write their own raps Lisa has never written a rap but she has choreographed many times (like Jennie) so shouldn't we consider her a dancer? In addition, Jennie is not only a singer, but also a designer, songwriter, producer, model, choreographer, fashion editor, and most importantly, actress and rapper. If you can't say "Jennie (rapper)", others will come and say "what?" Is Lisa the main rapper?" Someone who only knows 2-3 techniques shouldn't be called a rapper in my opinion. Also what matters is what the fans say? If you mix up positions like this, the Blinks will tell you that Lisa is the sub vocalist and Jennie is not the center member. 81.213.252.241 (talk) 19:25, 3 September 2022 (UTC)
- This is a Wikipedia page and the sources should be accurate, what is accurate is that Jennie the main rapper and lead vocalist. So her main position should be mentioned first and mainly. It doesn’t matter what fans see the members as, do what’s accurate. This isn’t a fan page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.114.215.139 (talk) 14:32, 10 August 2022 (UTC)
All sources called jennie only main rapper only few ones has said put her as vocalist and rapper. Moonlight Entm (talk) 21:10, 29 May 2022 (UTC)
Please add Jennie's awards
She won two daesang (main awards) aside from the one she won in 2022. Please update it as well. JNK0116 (talk) 03:36, 7 September 2022 (UTC)
Change Jennie’s photo please
Can anyone replace Jennie’s photo to a recent one that isn’t edited by Remini. This edited photo makes her look strange and unlike herself. Sshhyy (talk) 23:31, 13 September 2022 (UTC)
- The image is fine for now as there aren't any newer ones at the moment that has a free license. ɴᴋᴏɴ21 ❯❯❯ talk 00:11, 14 September 2022 (UTC)
Add new song!
Jennie teased a new song during the first tour date and confirmed its current name is "You & Me". I would maybe add this to the career part? Die moehreee (talk) 17:50, 16 October 2022 (UTC)
Impact and influence image
I was thinking of removing the image and rather replacing it with one of the images from the Porsche collaboration, or putting into Endorsements. Beulagpinkeu (talk) 23:43, 14 November 2022 (UTC)
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Semi-protected edit request on 9 June 2023
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89.43.91.66 (talk) 05:30, 9 June 2023 (UTC)
Jennie kim is an Hollywood actress as Jennie Ruby Jane and her series is the idol and she is one of the (the idol series) casts.
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Semi-protected edit request on 17 June 2023
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Kim Jennie is singer and actress 2800:BF0:8163:D61:5444:69BE:5604:B5FF (talk) 04:56, 17 June 2023 (UTC)
Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. M.Bitton (talk) 17:35, 17 June 2023 (UTC)
Jennie changed her signature. 188.253.227.244 (talk) 12:00, 28 June 2023 (UTC)
Semi-protected edit request on 23 November 2023
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MBE MareMer (talk) 16:29, 23 November 2023 (UTC)
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MBE
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Why wasn't MBE added to her name? Mika Vis (talk) 19:59, 24 November 2023 (UTC)
- There's a discussion at Talk:Blackpink#Member's MBE POSTNOM in lede if you'd like to read it and see more, but the short answer is that Jennie isn't a citizen or resident of a Commonwealth nation. Wikipedia, as a general rule, doesn't put honours (such as an MBE or OBE) after somebody's name (or in the infobox) unless that person is a citizen or resident of a country that recognizes them- because the MBE/OBE in such a case would be strictly honorary. It's been added to the bottom of her career section, though- so the information is there, in the article. It's just in a more appropriate place. GreenLipstickLesbian (talk) 06:17, 25 November 2023 (UTC)
Semi-protected edit request on 25 November 2023
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Add "MBE" after her name in the intro paragraph 2603:8081:6101:4282:9153:F76:AA91:DEA3 (talk) 07:12, 25 November 2023 (UTC)
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