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World War II
I believe that there are two problems with the WW II section of this page:
First, this page seems to be excessively praiseful of Admiral Nimitz, to the point of excluding other important figures. While I personally agree with the comments made, I don't think they belong in a neutral article as they present him as infalliable and as a man destined to win, which he was not. Although the United States did push the Japanese back, the Japanese were very successful in the earlier stages of the war. The article also does not mention the heavy fighting that occured before the course of the war was reversed.
Second, the article does not mention the divided command in the Pacific, which Admiral Nimitz played an important part in.
I'm not qualified to make the changes needed, (I'm still an undergrad), but I think that they should be noted and changed if possible.— Preceding unsigned comment added by Clyde 25 (talk • contribs) 20:52, 21 April 2006 (UTC)
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- "As rapidly as ships, men, and matériel became available, he shifted to the offensive and, by his brilliant leadership, unflagging optimism, and outstanding skill as a strategist, defeated the enemy in the Battle of the Coral Sea, the Battle of Midway, and in the Solomon Islands Campaign."
- Weren't a lot of these battles fought before the US Navy received much in the way of reinforcements, and indeed isn't that part of what was so impressive about his command during the period of 1942, that despite the then limited resources that he had available, he was able to acheive so much against the Japanese— Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.151.233.10 (talk) 11:29, 1 October 2006 (UTC)
- During 1942, Nimitz received lots of reinforcements from the Atlantic Fleet of the U.S. Navy, including aircraft carriers, new, fast battleships, and submarines. Also, there were lots of new airplanes coming in - for carriers and for shore-based use.
- However, it is quite true that the huge numbers of new ships did not start arriving until 1943 - lots of carriers, cruisers, destroyers, battleships, etc. These had already started their construction before the war under a "Two-Ocean Navy" plan that had been enacted by the U.S. Congress under the shadow of war that began in 1939 (Nazism.).— Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.249.90.250 (talk) 00:29, 22 August 2008 (UTC)
- Other than the statement that the Pacific Fleet was reinforced from the Atlantic Fleet, you are correct that the materiel available to Nimitz did not permit fleet offensive actions until 1943. Following Midway, the fleet mostly fought where it could capitalize on land-based air, and operated defensively. The article needs to have that timeline more explicit and to have the mis-characterization of its actions in the second half of 1942 as offensive actions corrected. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 47.208.11.42 (talk) 22:36, 15 June 2018 (UTC)
Teach me! I am Japanese.
At Battle of Peleliu Wikipedia Japanese version, "In 1982, Japanese rebuilt Shinto Shrine on Peleliu and in 1994 on that stage they set epitaph with epigram which was composed by Admiral Nimitz [[1]]"
which was engraved followings
{Tourists from every country who visit this island should be told how courageous and patriotic were the Japanese soldiers who all died defending this island}
Admiral Nimitz composed that truly? I doubt it seem similar to Epitaph of Simonides Battle of Thermopylae.59.139.180.26 14:45, 4 January 2007 (UTC)
I agree with the first commenter that this article sounds too positive,it idealizes him, rather than objectivley analzing him. And ironically, it almost glosses over his main achievement-the command of the US Pacific Fleet during WW II.
The Battles of the Coral Sea, Midway, and the Solomon Islands are mentioned in a sinlge sentence, while the pre-war incident where his ship ran aground gets a paragraph [which the article says could have cost him his career, but it doesn't say why it ultimatly *didn't* cost him his career.]....This article isn't terrible, overall, but its pretty vague in places. I don't know all that much about Nimitz, so I can't fix it, but I hope someone does.--Filippo Argenti 18:15, 13 January 2007 (UTC)
Is the Passed Midshipman rank attributed to him correct? Wouldn't it be just Midshipman? Midshipmen at the US Naval Academy progress from Midshipman Fourth Class (Freshman) to Midshipman First Class (Senior) Wikihonduras 17:34, 16 March 2007 (UTC)
- --Yes, today they progress in that fashion. But that was not the case in 1905. Passed Midshipman was the correct term at that time. Consult Reef Points for details.
- I couldn't find any references in my 1984 edition. Maybe a more detailed reference? Or maybe previous versions that describe his rank in '05 as Passed midshipman? Wikihonduras (talk) —Preceding comment was added at 02:40, 14 July 2008 (UTC)
The helpful, constructive criticism offered at the start of this section in 2006 has still not been addressed. The World War II section of the article is wholly unsourced and verges on hagiography: words like "successfully" are used, but apparently Admiral Nimitz never made a mistake. I don't really have any sources to hand to offer a more balanced and in-depth view, so I have tagged the section in the hope of attracting editors with more specialist knowledge and better sources. Matt's talk 23:49, 21 March 2019 (UTC)
- I trimmed out the verbal excesses and added multiple new citations to cover the World War II years. Rjensen (talk) 05:20, 16 June 2019 (UTC)
Picture with Dorie Miller
While the picture with Dorie Miller is pretty, it makes Dorie Miller look like the subject of the article instead of Nimitz. How about "Nimitz awards medal to one of his sailors." A picture with MacArthur or Roosevelt or even Doolittle would seem more appropriate to the article. Student7 00:29, 22 April 2007 (UTC)
He also made a famous quote "Uncommon valor was a common virtue." —Preceding unsigned comment added by Rakersemperfi (talk • contribs) 19:29, 25 September 2007 (UTC)
Style
The use of huge insignia graphics to track his career seems unecessarily (how shall I say) overt (?). It just seems a bit much. Pretty, but not really useful or that informative. Career tracking okay. The man was a Fleet Admiral. Nothing can detract from that. To me the insignia would be the equivalent of firing 21 guns on audio every time Franklin Roosevelt's bio was brought up online. Not really necessary! Student7 11:11, 11 May 2007 (UTC)
- I agree. The insignia graphics could use some downsizing. 80.144.244.124 04:08, 14 October 2007 (UTC)
Date of rank
The article for William Halsey has his date of rank for Lieutenant j.g. the same as Lieutenant but he underwent the same type of promotion as Nimitz. So, shouldn't one the articles be changed. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.140.56.241 (talk) 01:53, 11 January 2008 (UTC)
Memorials and Honorary
Nimitz school in Tulsa, OK, is a middle school for grades 6 thru 8 (not an elementary school). —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.17.167.30 (talk) 03:34, 7 May 2008 (UTC) --24.17.167.30 (talk) 03:36, 7 May 2008 (UTC)
Missing - Nimitz Middle School in San Antonio, Texas —Preceding unsigned comment added by 97.119.146.190 (talk) 01:25, 9 June 2008 (UTC)
Admiral Nimitz Galley. The enlisted dining facility at Naval Air Station Whidbey Island? [2]--Traumatic (talk) 09:57, 22 August 2009 (UTC)
Whom did he pull out of the water?
His list of awards includes the Silver Lifesaving Medal. There is nothing about this in the article; what were the details of the incident for which the medal was awarded? 170.170.59.138 (talk) 18:56, 25 March 2009 (UTC)
Order of the Bath
I removed the post nominal letters GCB, referring to his honorary status as Knight Grand Cross of the Order of the Bath, from the introduction of this article as Mr. Nimitz was not closely associated with the United Kingdom in the sense required by the Manual of Style for biographies. The full style guidelines for the use of post nominal letters can be viewed here: Wikipedia:Manual of Style (biographies)#Post-nominal_initials. TrufflesTheLamb (talk) 20:20, 9 July 2009 (UTC)
Many small errors
As FADM Nimitz' latest biographer (under contract with MacMillan, 2010), I note a bunch of errors which I will correct when I get time. Call this, just a cautionary note . . . —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.156.55.232 (talk) 04:15, 31 October 2010 (UTC)
- Ok, but note the talk pages are not for personal or corporate promotion. Any referenced material you provide is most welcome.HammerFilmFan (talk) 19:19, 27 July 2012 (UTC)
Probable Origin of Family Name
The Russian word for "German" is немецкий , which is pronounced (more or less) "Nimitsky" so it is likely that the German-extraction family lived in Russia for a while. StevinSimon (talk) 17:01, 28 April 2013 (UTC)
- Wiki policy forbids Original Research - you'll need to cite a Reliable Source. HammerFilmFan (talk) 10:06, 30 May 2013 (UTC)
Error in the painting
While on subs N. lost a finger in a working accident, like Yamamoto lost two at the Battle of Tsushima. --109.91.87.228 (talk) 23:05, 3 August 2013 (UTC)
Decorations and Awards
Nimitz was a qualified Submarine Officer - he earned Gold Submarine Dolphins - should add this to the page (same as Ernest King has aviator wings)- for proof look at numerous pictures and painting of the Admiral. Also he was a submarine CO - cannot be in this role without dolphins.
The following is from http://www.history.navy.mil/faqs/faq36-4.htm Naval History and Heritage Command: He returned to the U. S. in 1907 and was ordered to duty under instruction in submarines, the branch of the service in which he spent a large part of his sea duty. His first submarine was USS Plunger (A- 1). He successively commanded USS Snapper, USS Narwal and USS Skipjack until 1912. On 20 March of that year, Nimitz, then a Lieutenant, and commanding officer of the submarine E-1 (formerly Skipjack), was awarded the Silver Lifesaving Medal by the Treasury Department for his heroic action in saving W.J. Walsh, Fireman second class, USN, from drowning. A strong tide was running and Walsh, who could not swim, was rapidly being swept away from his ship. Lieutenant Nimitz dove in the water and kept Walsh afloat until both were picked up by a small boat.
He had one year in command of the Atlantic Submarine Flotilla before coming ashore in 1913 for duty in connection with building the diesel engines for the tanker USS Maumee at Groton, Conn. In that same year, he was sent to Germany and Belgium to study engines at their Diesel Plants. With that experience he subsequently served as Executive Officer and Engineering Officer of the Maumee until 1917 when he was assigned as Aide and Chief of Staff to COMSUBLANT. He served in that billet during World War I. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.196.234.99 (talk) 23:45, 3 September 2013 (UTC)
Meaning Of The Name ?
Nimitz= Nemetz = Немец = German ? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.90.230.235 (talk) 07:49, 22 October 2014 (UTC)
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