Talk:Chardak

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Ja se napio i slušam Halida i Čardak i reko: "haj evo da googlam "čardak" baš da vidim kaj on to melje i onda na hrv. wiki vidim da je čardak najviše u Hrvatskoj. Zatim se ja prebacim na englesku wiki i piše da je "chardak" bugarski/srpski/kajgod??? ima neko izvor da potvrdi??

I have noticed that the english and croatian translations do not match in regards to the origins of the word as well as it's popularity/relevance within a specific balkan nation. Is there anyone who can confirm the nationality of the word? Alternatively, spread the truth about the mixed nature of the words origins?? 2A05:4F46:323:2B00:E0C9:6695:5EE3:182F (talk) 22:18, 13 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

According to the Chartaque page, the word is of Ottoman Turkish origin, and before that, of Persian origin. Ottoman Turkish: چارطاق, from Persian: چهارتاق chahartaq, literally "having four arches"; in German: Tschartake, in Turkish: Çardak. See notes below. --SlightlyStrangeQuark (talk) 18:24, 10 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Of the linked articles in various languages, at the moment of writing the most extensive ones are those in Serbian, Macedonian, and Bulgarian. There seem to be at least 5 or 6 different meanings of the term, spread out amongst various language-specific articles.

The meanings I've been able to gather, source article in [brackets]:

• A type of watchtower used by the Ottoman Empire [Serbian]
• A type of a traditional guest house in Central Serbia [Serbian]
• A name for a type of a wooden corncrib used in Western Vojvodina (Serbia), and Eastern Croatia (bordering regions). [Serbian]
• A type of a traditional wooden house in Croatia that used to be a symbol of wealth [Croatian]
• "a room characteristic of a traditional Macedonian house, which is a multi-purpose semi-open space that connects the rest of the spaces" [Macedonian]
• (this might be the same as the previous one) An architectural element characteristic of traditional houses in Bulgaria, North Macedonia and in Serbia - a projection that is open to the external environment, usually on an upper floor; a balcony of sorts [Bulgarian]

Originally, this term designated a type of a watchtower that was used at the borders of the Ottoman Empire (only the Serbian-language version has a section dedicated to this meaning so far). However, there is already a good English-language article on this under Chartaque - the History section seems to be largely in line with what's written in the Serbian-language version, but the Construction section provides new information. --SlightlyStrangeQuark (talk) 18:24, 10 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]