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January 15, 2020

January 14, 2020

  • (Discuss)2020 Baghdad International Airport airstrikeDeath of Qasem Soleimani – Though reliable sources typically refer to this as the "killing of" or "assassination of" Qasem Soleimani, editors in previous move requests have objected to these as loaded terms conflicting with Wikipedia's NPOV policy on titles, so I am proposing the neutral "Death of Qasem Soleimani". The current title makes it sound like this was an attack on the airport itself, which it was not. Though others were killed in the attack, Soleimani's death was singled out by the vast majority of reliable sources as being the most consequential. His name is the most recognizable and the most natural. This new title is precise, concise, and consistent with the naming of articles about the deaths of other important figures. It meets Wikipedia's criteria for good titles. It is neutral and non-judgemental. Editors preferring the stronger "killing of" or "assassination of" may consider that, while "Death of Qasem Soleimani" is not their first choice, it is a better choice than the current title. Qono (talk) 21:08, 14 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • (Discuss)KYMA-DT (1988–2020) → ?If you are not familiar with broadcasting article title guidelines, please read this thoroughly before commenting. In 2019, Northwest Broadcasting, which owned television stations KYMA-DT and KSWT in Yuma, Arizona, was acquired. In order to comply with certain ownership regulations, the buyer was required to divest or surrender the license of one of the stations, which have been co-owned since 2014 under a waiver. It has chosen to shut down the KYMA-DT license, but prior to doing so, on January 13, 2020, it switched their callsigns, such that the current KSWT article needed to be moved to KYMA-DT. This change now shows in the FCC call sign database and is not in doubt. It is worth noting that a TV viewer in Yuma will notice little change, as all of the programming on the former KYMA-DT has been moved to the old KSWT/current KYMA-DT multiplex. The question that remains—and where I need consensus—is where to put the article about KYMA-DT from 1988 to 2020. The license that is being surrendered has been given the KSWT call sign, but I have a personal rule against "Viking funerals", in which a call sign is paired with a license that will expire or be surrendered in its final days, because they break WP:COMMONNAME. The final call sign on a license in this situation is thus not one a reader will expect and not an appropriate article title. I briefly put the article at KYMA-DT (former license), in order to move KSWT to KYMA-DT, and want to determine an appropriate disambiguator. Mvcg66b3r put it at KYMA-DT (1988–2020), which is probably the best available option given the precedent set by my defunct station work last year. I am establishing this RM mostly to gain consensus from others. The current article title is probably the one that will stand, but I want to have it nailed down. Raymie (tc) 20:00, 14 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • (Discuss)Vaikuntha ChaturmurtiCaturmūrti – Per Doris Srinivasan: "The name Vaikuntha, according to the textual evidence, should be reserved for those four-faces Vishnu images where the god, either alone or with his consort, rides on Garuda. When Garuda is absent, as for example in the Kashmiri type to be discussed below, the designation Caturmūrti (four-faced image) is appropriate" in Srinivasan, Doris (1979). "Early Vaiṣṇava Imagery: Caturvyūha and Variant Forms". Archives of Asian Art. 32: 43. ISSN 0066-6637. In addition, we can then create the Vaikuṇṭha article with the examples in which the four-faced Vishnu rides Garuda पाटलिपुत्र Pat (talk) 12:49, 14 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • (Discuss)The Hexer (TV series)The HexerWP:PRIMARYTOPIC and perhaps WP:Common sense. The "film" is just a mash-up of clips from the TV series, rather like the Battlestar Galacitica movie that was made up of scenes from the first season of that [original] TV series. Honestly, just merging the film into the TV series article, at The Hexer, as a section would also be an appropriate possibility. While before the current The Witcher TV series on Netflix, the film might maybe have had a primary-topic claim, in that various English-language movie sites mentioned the film more often than non-Polish sites talked about the full TV series, today there's more material out there about the original TV series, including in-depth comparisons of The Hexer versus Netflix's The Witcher, and they generally agree the film isn't worth watching or covering in any detail, since it's just a poor edit of the original series.  — SMcCandlish ¢ 😼  11:20, 14 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

References

  1. ^ https://www.focusfeatures.com/never-rarely-sometimes-always
  2. ^ "NASA's Hubble Finds Water Vapor on Habitable-Zone Exoplanet for 1st Time" – National Aeronautics and Space Administration (NASA) – "The planet, discovered by NASA's Kepler Space Telescope in 2015..."
  3. ^ "NASA's Kepler Discovers First Earth-Size Planet In The 'Habitable Zone' of Another Star" – National Aeronautics and Space Administration (NASA) – "NASA's Kepler Space Telescope, astronomers have discovered [...] The Kepler Space Telescope, which simultaneously and continuously measured the brightness..."
  4. ^ "Kepler Marks Five Years in Space" – National Aeronautics and Space Administration (NASA) – "NASA's Kepler Space Telescope rocketed into the night skies..."
  5. ^ "The Kepler Space Telescope Mission Is Ending But Its Legacy Will Keep Growing." – National Aeronautics and Space Administration (NASA) – "The Kepler Space Telescope is dead. [...] The Kepler Space Telescope was focused on hunting for planets..."
  6. ^ "About Exoplanets" (Archived) – National Aeronautics and Space Administration (NASA) – "As NASA's Kepler Space Telescope science team [...] Enter NASA's Kepler Space Telescope..."
  7. ^ "NASA telescope discovers its first planet orbiting two stars" – Astronomy – "...12 were discovered by NASA's Kepler Space Telescope..."
  8. ^ "Kepler Space Telescope: The Original Exoplanet Hunter" – Space.com – "NASA's Kepler Space Telescope was an observatory"
  9. ^ "The Kepler Space Telescope Comes to an End" – Sky & Telescope – "The Kepler Space Telescope is shown against a backdrop of worlds [...] the Kepler Space Telescope has finished its job. [...] The initial mission of the Kepler Space Telescope..."
  10. ^ "The Kepler Revolution" – Eos – "That instrument is the Kepler Space Telescope [...] Artist's conception of the Kepler Space Telescope..."
  11. ^ "NASA retires the Kepler Space Telescope" – Cosmos – "NASA's Kepler Space Telescope, rendered as art. [...] NASA's Kepler Space Telescope has ceased operations."
  12. ^ "Here Is the Last Picture the Kepler Planet-Hunting Telescope Ever Took" – Popular Mechanics – "On the left is the "first light" of the Kepler Space Telescope."
  13. ^ "Kepler, NASA's Revolutionary Planet-Hunting Telescope, Is Dead" – Scientific American – "NASA's prolific Kepler Space Telescope has run out of fuel, agency officials announced..."
  14. ^ "Kepler Space Telescope, Revealer of New Worlds, Officially Shuts Down After Historic Mission" – Smithsonian – "NASA's planet-hunting Kepler Space Telescope began to get a little wobbly..."
  15. ^ "After 9 Years In Orbit, Kepler Telescope Leaves A Legacy Of Discovery" – NPR – "...NASA's Kepler Space Telescope has run out of fuel. [...] thanks to the Kepler Space Telescope."
  16. ^ "After finding thousands of planets, NASA's Kepler mission ends" – CNN – "NASA's Kepler Space Telescope has run out of fuel, and its mission has come to an end..."
  17. ^ "Here's the magnificent last view NASA's Kepler Space Telescope ever saw" – CNET – "The final thing NASA's Kepler Space Telescope captured was everything..."
  18. ^ "NASA retired Kepler, a telescope that discovered thousands of worlds beyond our solar system" – Vox – "How the Kepler Space Telescope discovered [...] When NASA launched the Kepler Space Telescope in 2009 [...] When NASA finally retired the Kepler Space Telescope this week..."
  19. ^ "The Kepler Space Telescope is dead" – The Verge – "...NASA officially bid farewell to the Kepler Space Telescope..."
PhilipTerryGraham (talk · articles · reviews) 00:53, 14 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

January 13, 2020

  • (Discuss)Ana Pastor JuliánAna Pastor (politician) – Under WP:MAIDEN, second surnames should only be used when the person is better known with it. This is not the case here: both of these people are commonly known as "Ana Pastor" only, with their second surnames being of little use in reliable sources and, thus, unhelpful to serve as proper disambiguators. This is supported by WP:NCPDAB when it calls for using "the usual way of distinguishing two people of the same name", which in this case is not the second surname but their occupations: Ana Pastor Julián being prominently known as a long-time cabinet minister, member of the People's Party and speaker of the Congress of Deputiess between 2016 and 2019, and Ana Pastor García being one of Spain's most widely-known journalists, having worked on TVE, CNN and laSexta. Impru20talk 20:12, 13 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • (Discuss)The Fragile (Nine Inch Nails album)The Fragile – I was pretty taken aback to see that this article has such a specific disambiguator, so I had a look at the Fragile dab page to see what other topics have this name. Turns out that, although there are quite a few things named just Fragile (including other albums), the only other thing named THE Fragile that has an article is another album. Between the fact that the Nine Inch Nails album has page views in the thousands while the O'Hooley & Tidow album doesn't even come close, a quick Google search that almost exclusively brought up results related to the NIN album and the other album being by a seemingly much less well-known and culturally significant artist, this album seems like an obvious WP:PRIMARYTOPIC. Vaporgaze (talk) 15:23, 13 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • (Discuss)Shinzō AbeShinzo Abe – It interested me to see that the macron diacritic on Junichiro Koizumi's name was removed from the title of his Wikipedia article a few years ago during a page move discussion.[1] The main argument used was WP: COMMONNAME. If the arguments of that previous discussion hold true, shouldn't this article also be moved on the same grounds? Most recent books and media in English don't use the macron, it seems. I've never once seen an article in the Japan Times or South China Morning Post that spells Shinzo Abe's name with the macron attached.Funtoedit1212 (talk) 08:33, 13 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

January 12, 2020

January 11, 2020

  • (Discuss)16th Air ForceSixteenth Air Force – To comply with WP:MILMOS#UNITNAME (An article about a unit, formation, or base should be placed at the official name used by the armed forces to which the unit or base belongs.) The proper name of this establishment is with number spelled out. This change is also needed to be consistent with articles on other USAF numbered air forces. The page was originally created under the requested name. It was moved to "16th Air Force" without discussion. Lineagegeek (talk) 22:47, 11 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • (Discuss)Mena (name)Mena (surname) – I suggest this article be split into two. The "given name" is unreferenced, all the prose textual information is concerning the Jewish and Iberian surname. Only the list of people by this given name concerns the given name. The given name list just needs to be split off to Mena (given name), the majority of the article would then move to Mena (surname), and the current title Mena (name) would end up redirecting to Mena (disambiguation), which would list both the surname and given name pages. The edit history would remain attached to the surname article, since the prose text is only about the surname, thus the significant contributions (not just adding a name on a list) is about the surname. -- 67.70.33.184 (talk) 21:19, 11 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

January 10, 2020

  • (Discuss)Internal conflict in Peru → ? – This article focuses specifically and solely on terrorism in Peru, particularly the terrorism crisis in Peru throughout the 1980s and 1990s. The Spanish version of the article also refers to the article as the Época del terrorismo en Perú, which is roughly Age of terrorism in Peru. Moving this page to Terrorism in Peru would make the article title more accurate, as well as correct. DoctorSpeed ✉️ 18:15, 10 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • (Discuss)ThreadsThreads (film)WP:ASTONISH no clear primary topic given that Threads (Sheryl Crow album) got 4,942 views (though that might be recentism) compared with the film's 12,959 views which probably doesn't meet "much more likely than any other" which would probably be more like 10x. Thread (computing) also gets 10,369, Screw thread gets 9,755, Thread (network protocol) gets 2,650 and Thread (yarn) gets 1,752 [[10]]. By long term significance if anything many of the terms titled in the singular would be primary if anything. See similar cases like Cars, Cats, Bones, Bookends, Pixies and Parachutes which no only does the specific meanings not take precedence, the general meanings do. I propose that like Dockers and Cuts we redirect "Threads" to Thread per WP:DABCOMBINE since there are quite a few meanings that would be on both DAB pages if split. While its true that per WP:PLURALPT users can be expected to use the singular more often they are still full matches and anyway it gives the examples of Cars and Bookends redirecting to the singular named article. Also as noted in the Bookends, Suites, Dockers and Peanuts discussions (and probably others) we can't distinguish between "threads" and "Threads" since the 1st letter is always capitalized in titles even though we can with the likes of Common sense and Common Sense. And even if we could we can't tell if its at the start of a sentence since we can see that in the Thread (computing) article the plural term appears over 100x and in some cases it appears as "Threads" (when its at the start of a sentence). WP articles are generally out of context (unlike WT entries) and thus an initial capital could easily be expected anyway. Also note that the category is at Category:Threads (computing) which also shows that its common for things to be plural even though we don't in the article space, see WP:PRIMARYREDIRECT. A Google Images search for threads returns most results for Thread (yarn) which is very well known and the plural form appears 14x in the article. Threads (TV series) is another option. Crouch, Swale (talk) 11:28, 10 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • (Discuss)Eric OumaErick Otieno – He is registered as "Erick Ouma Otieno" on soccerway.com where "Ouma" is listed as one of two last names. Ratsit.se, however, is based on info from his passport, and there "Ouma" is listed as his middle name, not his last name. Both his current club, AIK, and his previous side, Vasalund, refer to him as "Erick Otieno" on their respective websites. This page should therefore also be renamed "Erick Otieno". Aikclaes (talk) 11:24, 10 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • (Discuss)Champ CarChampionship Auto Racing Teams – Now that the page has been fleshed out, going to again suggest a move of this page to Championship Auto Racing Teams or CART, and the creation of a separate page for the Champ Car (04-07) organization, which was owned by a separate legal entity. While both shared the same series history, CART was fundamentally different in structure. Knoper (talk) 03:20, 10 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

January 9, 2020

  • (Discuss)List of H-I and H-II launchesList of H-II and H3 launches – I have been expanding the list of launches of all space launch vehicles and I noticed that this list was created in 2018. Unfortunately despite the naming convention, the H-I and H-II series are almost completely different, and most importantly due to its lower stages' heritage the H-I launches are already listed with the List of Thor and Delta launches tables! While the H-I isn't a complete licensed built version of the Delta (as with the N-I & N-II), it was close enough that McDonnell Douglas once consider bringing this configuration with LH2 2nd stage back to the US in the process of designing what became the Delta II. [6] On the other hand, the H-II is a completely new design. Given the overlap in the H-I launches, I suggest removing them from the current H-I + H-II launch list, and instead pair the H-II series with the H3 rocket under development right now - with the exception of the new first stage engine, the H3 is fairly similar to the H-IIA/B and can be seen as an evolutionary step a la Ariane 5 to Ariane 6. Thoughts? Galactic Penguin SST (talk) 18:08, 9 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

January 8, 2020

Elapsed listings

Backlog

  • (Discuss)Zombie DogZombie dog (Resident Evil) – This was not the first appearance of a zombie dog in popular culture, with a zombie dog having appeared in The Last Man on Earth as far back as 1964. (Also mentioned on page 58 of Zombie Culture: Autopsies of the Living Dead.) "Zombie Dog" also cannot be a proper noun, because we are talking about a type of enemy, not a single dog. Unsure where the original name would redirect, but perhaps to a section in the zombie article on zombie animals. ZXCVBNM (TALK) 06:39, 28 December 2019 (UTC) Relisting. Steel1943 (talk) 18:39, 6 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • (Discuss)Statements on auditing standardsStatement on Auditing Standards – I put this as a technical request, although I was trying to kill two birds with one stone and should have done a full RM straight away. I hadn't noticed the previous brief discussion because I was checking the talk pages of various redirects, and I missed it. Sorry. Never mind, let's start. As far as I see it, "Statement on Auditing Standards" is a proper noun. It is not some general statement on auditing standards, "I think auditing standards are too lax" or whatnot, it is a specific kind of document required by the Generally Accepted Auditing Standards, which as you see is in initial caps. GAAS issues "Statements on Auditing Standards", each of which is a Statement, singular, the two we have articles for are Statement_on_Auditing_Standards_No._55 and Statement on Auditing Standards No. 99: Consideration of Fraud. Whether the plural "Statements" or singular "Statement" should be used is a fine point, but these are particular things that are proper names. Declaration of interest per WP:COI: my wife is a financial auditor, but not under GAAP rules but she never edits Wikipedia and has not asked me to raise this on her behalf. There is no conflict of interest. This is purely WP:NCCAPS as a proper name. 94.21.38.148 (talk) 15:05, 6 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • (Discuss)Statism in Shōwa JapanJapanese fascism – I am arguing that this article be moved to Japanese fascism based on two points. (1.) Firstly, the current title of the article is wrong, since statism was only one form of Japanese ultranationalism. See this quote from historian Richard Sims: "The divisions within Japanese ultranationalism:The great number and variety of different groups makes analysis of Japanese nationalism extremely difficult. Historians have tended to favour a dualistic division into kokkashugi (pro-Establishment statist nationalism) and kokuminshugi (anti-Establishment people-oriented nationalism), or alternatively, totalitarian (or renovationist) Right and idealist (or Japanist) Right." Therefore, I think we should all be able to agree that Statism in Showa Japan is the wrong title. (2.) While I admit that fascism is difficult to define, and while I admit that many historians do not associate the Japanese extreme right with fascism, many, if not most historians, do call it fascism. For example, historian E. Bruce Reynolds says, "surely Bernd Martin was correct in labeling prewar Japan 'a folkish imperial state' and itsemperor-centered ideology a form of 'Japanese-style fascism.'" Historian Christopher WA Szpilman says, "fascists were in charge in prewar Japan, even if they themselves spurned this label. After all, it is not the labels that are important, but the ideological content." If there is no consensus to rename this article to Japanese fascism, my second choice is Ultranationalism in prewar Japan. Hko2333 (talk) 08:19, 29 December 2019 (UTC)Relisting. Surachit (talk) 09:03, 6 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • (Discuss)Löyly (public sauna)Löyly – "Löyly" is a Finnish word meaning the heat and humidity in a sauna and is a more notable concept than this public sauna, but this is the English-speaking Wikipedia and not the Finnish-speaking one. "Löyly" is not an English word and I'm not sure English even has a word for the concept. The public sauna gets tens of incoming links, the Finnish word gets one (I'm not counting Finnish sauna, the target of the redirect löyly). JIP | Talk 00:12, 6 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • (Discuss)Hebei Elite F.C.Hebei Aoli Jingying F.C. – - As the picture in an article Official Weibo Account posted by the club on its official Weibo account shows, which is the Chinese version of twitter, the club's official English name recognized by the club is Hebei Aoli Jingying. A picture taken by a weibo user after Hebei Aoli Jingying match shows that the club's English name which was printed on the banner inside the stadium is Hebei Aoli Jingying. [19] Thus, I request that move the page to Hebei Aoli Jingying, which is the official English name of the club instead of Hebei Olé Elite stated by Sagan Storo as the official name in the edit summary. Qby (talk) 09:37, 9 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Malformed requests

References

  1. ^ "Shadow Cabinet". Labour Party. Retrieved 8 August 2019.
  2. ^ "Parliamentary Biography". UK Parliament. Retrieved 8 August 2019.
  3. ^ "Official website". Jonathan Ashworth MP. Retrieved 8 August 2019.
  4. ^ "Maungakiekie / One Tree Hill : Climbing, Hiking & Mountaineering : SummitPost". www.summitpost.org.
  5. ^ "About Cornwall Park". Cornwall Park: Auckland, New Zealand. 9 January 2020.
  6. ^ Kyle, Ed. "N-1, N-2, and H-1: Japan's "Deltas"". Space Launch Report. Retrieved 9 January 2020.