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Hi! I would just like to thank you so much for taking the time to review my Mother Gothel article.--Changedforbetter (talk) 06:02, 4 October 2014 (UTC)

Hey Changedforbetter, it may take me a little while to get to it but I'll keep you posted on my progress. — Cirt (talk) 07:04, 4 October 2014 (UTC)

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Note that any non-free images not used in any articles will be deleted after seven days, as described in the criteria for speedy deletion. Thank you. Stefan2 (talk) 20:10, 3 October 2014 (UTC)

Thank you, Stefan2 (talk · contribs), for this notification. I won't be taking any action here, and will instead respectfully defer to the established processes by the Wikipedia community. Please also note that the last time I edited that page was over six (6) years ago. — Cirt (talk) 20:19, 3 October 2014 (UTC)

An editor has asked for a discussion to address the redirect Voyage au pays des nouveaux gourous. Since you had some involvement with the Voyage au pays des nouveaux gourous redirect, you might want to participate in the redirect discussion if you have not already done so. Tgeairn (talk) 21:37, 2 October 2014 (UTC)

(The usual notification) Cheers! --Tgeairn (talk) 21:38, 2 October 2014 (UTC)

Thank you, Tgeairn (talk · contribs), for this notification. I won't be participating in this deletion discussion, and will instead respectfully defer to the consensus outcome from the WP:RFD process as determined by the community. Please also note that the last time I edited that page was over four (4) years ago. — Cirt (talk) 21:40, 2 October 2014 (UTC)

"I completely agree that both your article quality and work in general here lately at EN are superb." by Tgeairn. — Cirt (talk) 18:04, 4 October 2014 (UTC)

A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Cult Awareness and Information Centre is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Cult Awareness and Information Centre until a consensus is reached, and anyone is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article. Tgeairn (talk) 10:12, 28 September 2014 (UTC)

Thank you, Tgeairn (talk · contribs), for this notification. I won't be participating in this deletion discussion, and will instead respectfully defer to the consensus outcome from the WP:AFD process as determined by the community. Please also note that the last time I edited that page was over four (4) years ago. — Cirt (talk) 12:27, 28 September 2014 (UTC)

Absolutely, and understood. I am aware that it may be annoying receiving these notifications, but obviously I must continue to notify page creators when nominating an article. Cheers! --Tgeairn (talk) 12:41, 28 September 2014 (UTC)

I still thank you for the notification, Tgeairn, it is most interesting reading, but please understand my level of article quality these days in pages I use for Quality improvement projects is a bit higher than it was those years ago. For example, the WP:FA quality page, Freedom for the Thought That We Hate. Thank you, — Cirt (talk) 12:45, 28 September 2014 (UTC)

Once I wandered into this whole NRM world I went and "checked you out" so-to-speak. I completely agree that both your article quality and work in general here lately at EN are superb. Tgeairn (talk) 12:54, 28 September 2014 (UTC)

Thank you for the kind words, Tgeairn, I really appreciate that! I encourage you to read through some of my successful Quality improvement projects related to the general topic of freedom of speech. Freedom for the Thought That We Hate is a good example, and I highly recommend you read the book as well. Let me know what you think of the book. — Cirt (talk) 12:56, 28 September 2014 (UTC)

"I completely agree that both your article quality and work in general here lately at EN are superb." = nicest thing somebody's said about me on Wikipedia in a while, thanks again, — Cirt (talk) 16:40, 30 September 2014 (UTC)

Some days we all need a good word! FYI, I picked up the Kindle edition of Freedom for the Thought That We Hate. I didn't get a chance to read it on the flight (work, work, work), but it's now in the queue. Tgeairn (talk) 21:08, 2 October 2014 (UTC)

Hello Cirt, because you participated in the AfD here, you are being asked to comment on the RfC regarding that article and others.

The RfC the link is here.

The question is:

Should we keep these newly created separate country articles about the Ebola epidemic?

• 2014 Ebola virus epidemic in Guinea
• 2014 Ebola virus epidemic in Liberia
• 2014 Ebola virus epidemic in Sierra Leone
• 2014 Ebola virus case in the United States

Your participation is greatly appreciated. Thanks!

SW3 5DL (talk) 22:14, 4 October 2014 (UTC)

Commented there. — Cirt (talk) 22:36, 4 October 2014 (UTC)

1. Paxata
2. Intelligent Systems for Molecular Biology
3. Impedance analogy
4. Indoor-outdoor thermometer
5. Ship's chronometer from HMS Beagle

I will review these articles for WP:GA candidacy that were nominated through the WP:GAN process. — Cirt (talk) 11:56, 29 September 2014 (UTC)

Reviewed Paxata -- Unfortunately not GA at this time. — Cirt (talk) 13:59, 29 September 2014 (UTC)

Passed Intelligent Systems for Molecular Biology as GA. — Cirt (talk) 16:32, 30 September 2014 (UTC)

Added two more to list for review, Indoor-outdoor thermometer and Ship's chronometer from HMS Beagle. — Cirt (talk) 18:18, 30 September 2014 (UTC)

Passed Impedance analogy as GA. — Cirt (talk) 20:26, 30 September 2014 (UTC)

Doing next two in increments. Did an image review and also a stability review for both articles Indoor-outdoor thermometer and Ship's chronometer from HMS Beagle, next on to rest of review for those two. — Cirt (talk) 21:00, 30 September 2014 (UTC)

Passed Indoor-outdoor thermometer. — Cirt (talk) 02:44, 1 October 2014 (UTC)

Placed Ship's chronometer from HMS Beagle as GA on Hold. — Cirt (talk) 02:56, 3 October 2014 (UTC)

Passed Ship's chronometer from HMS Beagle as GA. — Cirt (talk) 18:07, 5 October 2014 (UTC)

A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Mark Sirkin is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Mark Sirkin until a consensus is reached, and anyone is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article. Tgeairn (talk) 19:18, 4 October 2014 (UTC)

Thank you, Tgeairn (talk · contribs), for this notification. I won't be participating in this deletion discussion, and will instead respectfully defer to the consensus outcome from the WP:AFD process as determined by the community. Please also note that the last time I edited that page was over seven (7) years ago. — Cirt (talk) 19:27, 4 October 2014 (UTC)

Understood... Thanks (as always) for the response. Cheers! --Tgeairn (talk) 19:31, 4 October 2014 (UTC)

You're welcome, Tgeairn (talk · contribs), I feel the replies noting my intention of non-participation in such discussions are appropriate both for cordial discord and documentation purposes. — Cirt (talk) 19:39, 4 October 2014 (UTC)

1. Fun Home (musical)
2. Circus Juventas
3. Mother Gothel
4. The Philaletheis Society
5. Salman Khan
6. Suriya
7. Gary Cooper
8. Katrina Kaif
9. Emily Ratajkowski
10. Nipo T. Strongheart

I will review these articles for WP:GA candidacy that were nominated through the WP:GAN process. — Cirt (talk) 05:23, 4 October 2014 (UTC)

Fun Home (musical) placed as GA on Hold. — Cirt (talk) 16:47, 4 October 2014 (UTC)

For Circus Juventas, asked nominator at Talk:Circus Juventas/GA1 to expand lede intro sect. — Cirt (talk) 17:27, 4 October 2014 (UTC)

Passed Mother Gothel as GA. — Cirt (talk) 17:38, 4 October 2014 (UTC)

Added Nipo T. Strongheart to above list. — Cirt (talk) 17:50, 4 October 2014 (UTC)

Also added The Philaletheis Society. — Cirt (talk) 17:53, 4 October 2014 (UTC)

Posted query about stability of Gary Cooper article to nominator and at Wikipedia talk:Good article nominations. — Cirt (talk) 19:49, 4 October 2014 (UTC)

Passed Circus Juventas as GA. — Cirt (talk) 01:24, 5 October 2014 (UTC)

Passed The Philaletheis Society as GA. — Cirt (talk) 01:32, 5 October 2014 (UTC)

Added to review Salman Khan and Suriya to above list. — Cirt (talk) 01:37, 5 October 2014 (UTC)

Left query for nominator on review subpage for Nipo T. Strongheart. — Cirt (talk) 01:41, 5 October 2014 (UTC)

I've closed the nomination for Gary Cooper as not GA at this time, unfortunately, due to stability issues and ongoing conflicts between multiple editors. I left comments and diffs at Talk:Gary Cooper/GA1. — Cirt (talk) 15:05, 5 October 2014 (UTC)

I've closed the nomination for Salman Khan as not GA at this time, unfortunately, due to sourcing issues related to unreferenced chunks of material in a WP:BLP page. — Cirt (talk) 15:41, 5 October 2014 (UTC)

I've closed the nomination for Suriya as not GA at this time, unfortunately, due to sourcing issues related to unreferenced chunks of material in a WP:BLP page. — Cirt (talk) 15:45, 5 October 2014 (UTC)

Marked to review next Katrina Kaif and Emily Ratajkowski. — Cirt (talk) 16:02, 5 October 2014 (UTC)

My apologies, Smkolins, but I didn't realize I can't do the review for Nipo T. Strongheart as it's under a WikiProject related to a new religious movement. I didn't see that earlier and just thought it was predominantly related to the subsection under which I found the nomination, which was Media and drama. Please ask for a different GA Reviewer to take over. — Cirt (talk) 20:45, 5 October 2014 (UTC)

1. Fun Home (musical)
2. Katrina Kaif
3. Emily Ratajkowski
4. Arnaud Tsamere

Fun Home (musical) currently as GA on Hold. Pending reviews for Katrina Kaif and Emily Ratajkowski. Not doing any other GA Reviews at this time, but might pick up other different ones later. — Cirt (talk) 20:47, 5 October 2014 (UTC)

I've worked on Fun Home and posted a preliminary response on the GAR page. Please let me know whether more work is required for the article to pass. Thanks! —Josiah Rowe (talk • contribs) 05:07, 6 October 2014 (UTC)

Fun Home (musical) passed as GA. — Cirt (talk) 08:46, 6 October 2014 (UTC)

Closed Katrina Kaif as not GA at this time. — Cirt (talk) 14:14, 6 October 2014 (UTC)

Added to pending reviews: Arnaud Tsamere. — Cirt (talk) 14:23, 6 October 2014 (UTC)

Added Image review for Emily Ratajkowski, next on to Stability review. Posted questions about stability of Emily Ratajkowski to the GA nominator. — Cirt (talk) 15:02, 6 October 2014 (UTC)

Added Stability review for Arnaud Tsamere, next on to image review. — Cirt (talk) 17:02, 6 October 2014 (UTC)

Added Image review for Arnaud Tsamere, next on to rest of review. — Cirt (talk) 17:04, 6 October 2014 (UTC)

Added Stability review for Emily Ratajkowski, next on to rest of review. — Cirt (talk) 20:59, 6 October 2014 (UTC)

To do first: Rest of GA Review for Emily Ratajkowski, then rest of review for Arnaud Tsamere. — Cirt (talk) 21:08, 6 October 2014 (UTC)

Passed article Emily Ratajkowski as GA. — Cirt (talk) 13:52, 7 October 2014 (UTC)

Passed Arnaud Tsamere as GA. — Cirt (talk) 17:52, 7 October 2014 (UTC)

Thanks very much, — Cirt (talk) 00:08, 8 October 2014 (UTC)

No worries. Cheers, Baffle gab1978 (talk) 01:09, 8 October 2014 (UTC)

A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Bill Goldberg (social worker) is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Bill Goldberg (social worker) until a consensus is reached, and anyone is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article. Drmies (talk) 03:26, 9 October 2014 (UTC)

Thank you, Drmies (talk · contribs), for this notification. I won't be participating in this deletion discussion, and will instead respectfully defer to the consensus outcome from the WP:AFD process as determined by the community. Please also note that the last time I edited that page was over six (6) years ago. — Cirt (talk) 03:30, 9 October 2014 (UTC)

• I understand, Cirt--you know the notification is automatic. Take it easy, Drmies (talk) 03:40, 9 October 2014 (UTC)

I know you understand, Drmies. I am taking it easy, thank you. I hope you are taking it easy as well. I had a great time today hanging out with friends and doing some exercise and enjoyed the sunset. :) — Cirt (talk) 03:43, 9 October 2014 (UTC)

Alabama, Cirt: we hit close to 90 degrees today. I was working on a chicken coop and had to change into shorts. We have two baby chickens and it's very relaxing to play with them. Best, Drmies (talk) 03:47, 9 October 2014 (UTC)

Most interesting, Drmies, I recently had the opportunity to work on an organic farm and experienced fertilization using chicken feces, cow manure, and fish guts. Most interesting times. I'm glad you had a relaxing time today as well. I hope you're drinking enough water? — Cirt (talk) 03:51, 9 October 2014 (UTC)

Well, Drmies, I hope you continue to enjoy and gain relaxation from the two baby chickens. :) — Cirt (talk) 04:10, 9 October 2014 (UTC)

Hi there, I'm pleased to inform you that I've begun reviewing the article Deanna Merryman you nominated for GA-status according to the criteria. This process may take up to 7 days. Feel free to contact me with any questions or comments you might have during this period. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Jonas Vinther -- Jonas Vinther (talk) 14:23, 10 October 2014 (UTC)

Thanks very much, Jonas Vinther, I've put a lot of effort into research on this one and I appreciate it. — Cirt (talk) 15:06, 10 October 2014 (UTC)

Thank you, — Cirt (talk) 04:12, 8 October 2014 (UTC)

Cirt, I've had to put this on hold because my usual ISP is range-blocked and I cannot edit normally. Feel free to strike my acceptance if this exceeds 7 days. See my talk page for more. cheers, Baffle gab1978 (talk) 03:11, 9 October 2014 (UTC)

I've been granted block-exemption and can continue the copy-edit later tonight. Thanks for your support Cirt, it's appreciated. Cheers, Baffle gab1978 (talk) 18:03, 9 October 2014 (UTC)

You're most welcome, Baffle gab1978, I meant it and I wish you the best of luck, — Cirt (talk) 21:14, 9 October 2014 (UTC)

The article Deanna Merryman you nominated as a good article has passed ; see Talk:Deanna Merryman for comments about the article. Well done! If the article has not already been on the main page as an "In the news" or "Did you know" item, you can nominate it to appear in Did you know. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Jonas Vinther -- Jonas Vinther (talk) 16:22, 10 October 2014 (UTC)

Thanks very much, Jonas Vinther, I appreciated your review! — Cirt (talk) 16:41, 10 October 2014 (UTC)

No problemo. :) Jonas Vinther (speak to me!) 16:43, 10 October 2014 (UTC)

An editor has asked for a discussion to address the redirect Template:LandmarkForum. Since you had some involvement with the Template:LandmarkForum redirect, you might want to participate in the redirect discussion if you have not already done so. Tgeairn (talk) 01:26, 13 October 2014 (UTC)

More of the usual standard notification. I note that you have not edited the redirect under discussion in over six years. Thanks! Tgeairn (talk) 01:27, 13 October 2014 (UTC)

Thank you, Tgeairn (talk · contribs), for this notification. I won't be participating in this deletion discussion, and will instead respectfully defer to the consensus outcome from the WP:RFD process as determined by the community. Thank you for noting that the last time I edited that page was over six (6) years ago. — Cirt (talk) 01:29, 13 October 2014 (UTC)

Hi Cirt, just letting you know you've been mentioned in this arbitration case request. Regards, Callanecc (talk • contribs • logs) 10:10, 22 September 2014 (UTC)

I'm not sure why you're telling me this, Callanecc, as I'm not allowed to comment there? — Cirt (talk) 11:52, 22 September 2014 (UTC)

ArbCom has held for a while that it is an allowable exception per WP:BANEX to defend yourself. If you feel that you need to defend yourself but you'd rather not do so publicly you can always send the Committee an email. It was a more a message just to let you know that you'd be mentioned and/or discussed. Regards, Callanecc (talk • contribs • logs) 04:34, 24 September 2014 (UTC)

Thank you, Callanecc. I've been informed by ArbCom that I'm not a party to the case so I won't defend myself at this point in time and will continue instead to focus on other, unrelated, Quality improvement projects. Hopefully that will be okay. — Cirt (talk) 12:41, 24 September 2014 (UTC)

(watching) Quality improvement projects rings my bell ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:53, 24 September 2014 (UTC)

(Stalking.) Can I pitch a quality improvement idea to you? (Hi Gerda.) --Anthonyhcole (talk · contribs · email) 12:58, 24 September 2014 (UTC)

You who? Me? my talk. Project: related talk (general + TFA - missed - infobox). Or Cirt? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:02, 24 September 2014 (UTC)

Cirt mentioned quality improvement so I asked him, but I'd appreciate your thoughts too, Gerda. I don't understand "Project: related talk (general + TFA - missed - infobox)." That's an invitation to all at Wikipedia:WikiProject Quality Article Improvement, too. I'd be very grateful for all of your input. --Anthonyhcole (talk · contribs · email) 13:11, 24 September 2014 (UTC)

The project has subpages, everybody is free to comment on their talk, general + TFA - missed - infobox. Only project members of the cabal of outcasts should change the project pages ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:26, 24 September 2014 (UTC)

Ah. Thanks. OK. I've started one at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Quality Article Improvement#Fact checking. --Anthonyhcole (talk · contribs · email) 13:59, 24 September 2014 (UTC)

Hi Cirt,

I hope life has been going well with you since I last heard from you. I have finally found time to start another FAC, and it is for Not My Life. I have greatly appreciated your reviews in my past FACs, and I would be grateful for any comments you might be willing to provide in this one.

Neelix (talk) 16:01, 12 September 2014 (UTC)

Sorry, Neelix, but I simply don't have the time right now with other IRL stuff going on, but I wish you the best of luck, it sure looks like a most interesting article. If I have some time I may try to check back later. — Cirt (talk) 02:27, 17 September 2014 (UTC)

No worries; I understand that life can get busy. Thanks for the encouragement. I hope that life is going well with you throughout all the busy-ness. Neelix (talk) 02:42, 17 September 2014 (UTC)

Thanks Neelix, I'm pretty good, just need a tad bit more sleep lately. — Cirt (talk) 02:56, 17 September 2014 (UTC)

• Greg Lukianoff (September 9, 2014). "Freedom of Speech or Freedom From Speech: 50 Years After the Berkeley Free Speech Movement". The Huffington Post.
• Dominic Rushe (September 17, 2014). "High school students care more about free speech than adults, poll finds -- For first time in poll's history, American students are more in favour of the first amendment than adults". The Guardian.
• Bill Vargo (September 14, 2014). "Freedom of speech is here to stay thanks to the U.S. Constitution". The Times of Northwest Indiana.

Note to self: Interesting articles to read.

— Cirt (talk) 03:39, 18 September 2014 (UTC)

Thank you, Cambalachero, for your most kind comments about my recent Quality improvement projects listed at User:Cirt/Contributions. Your words are truly most appreciated and inspirational. Thanks again, — Cirt (talk) 21:06, 17 October 2014 (UTC)

Hello, and welcome to Wikipedia. I noticed that your user subpage at User:Cirt/Gutting may not meet Wikipedia's user page guideline because it is a clear and unambiguous violation of WP:AGF and a personal attack on contributors. If you believe that your user page does not violate our guideline, please leave a note on this page. Alternatively you may add {{Db-userreq}} to the top of the page in question and an administrator will delete it, or you can simply edit the page so that it meets Wikipedia's user page guideline. Thank you. AndyTheGrump (talk) 18:49, 18 October 2014 (UTC)

AndyTheGrump, I made very careful care not to refer to any individual users. If you have suggestions on how to improve my personal user space essay, please let me know, I'd be happy to hear any suggestions short of deletion of this user essay about deletion. Thank you, — Cirt (talk) 18:51, 18 October 2014 (UTC)

I can see no possible improvement short of deletion - it is based entirely around premises which run contrary to WP:AGF. AndyTheGrump (talk) 18:55, 18 October 2014 (UTC)

AndyTheGrump, you can't suggest even one suggestion to improve it? — Cirt (talk) 18:56, 18 October 2014 (UTC)

Not an attack. We WP:AGF as a default but if subsequent behavior indicates an intention to disrupt then we're not required to stick our heads in the sand. --NeilN ^{talk to me} 19:00, 18 October 2014 (UTC)

Thanks very much, NeilN, I agree with your comment. Also, it's kinda odd that the user above started out this templated-message with a link to the Welcoming committee and the message, "Welcome to Wikipedia", when at least I thought it was clear from my userpage that I've helped contribute to sixteen (16) Featured Articles. Just struck me as sort of strange, is all. Oh well. — Cirt (talk) 04:10, 19 October 2014 (UTC)

Ah, I found the page on it, at WP:Don't template the regulars. — Cirt (talk) 15:39, 19 October 2014 (UTC)

at my place NewsAndEventsGuy (talk) 00:47, 19 October 2014 (UTC)

so this is a strange discussion we are having. I and Lesser have looked and there are no independent sources with which to build a Wikipedia article. Why are you not responding to that? (maybe you don't believe us, maybe you have a different idea of the kind of sources one needs.... I don't know) Your essay that is critical of "gutting" is starting to make sense now, but in a way that is troubling to me.... can you help me understand where you are coming from, and why you are not answering direct questions? Those are two "levels" of questions. I really do want to understand where you are coming from (really I do) but I am troubled that you are not answering direct questions. I am wondering if these two levels are not somehow connected. But one can never reach consensus without honest dialog, right? If you are not interested in the conversation, I would understand, but I wanted to try. Jytdog (talk) 01:09, 20 October 2014 (UTC)

Hi, Jytdog, I thank you for reaching out to me, but I must admit it feels like I'm being tag-teamed and badgered at that particular AFD. — Cirt (talk) 01:11, 20 October 2014 (UTC)

i have never interacted with lesser before. we just seem to have the same perspective on this particular issue. but as you will! good luck. Jytdog (talk) 01:12, 20 October 2014 (UTC)

I responded with another comment at the AFD, diff. That may explain how I feel a little bit better. Jytdog, I also wish to impress upon you something you may not know about my past Quality improvement history, which is that I indeed have been successful on multiple occasions in bringing articles that others attempted to get deleted at AFD, to higher levels of quality including WP:GA, and in multiple cases, to WP:FA quality. Cheers, — Cirt (talk) 01:14, 20 October 2014 (UTC)

this is very upsetting. done here. Jytdog (talk) 01:16, 20 October 2014 (UTC)

Why is it upsetting? Please, I don't mean to upset anyone. — Cirt (talk) 01:19, 20 October 2014 (UTC)

My attempt at explaining from perspective of WP:WIAGA good article criteria, diff. — Cirt (talk) 01:22, 20 October 2014 (UTC)

There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. The discussion is about the topic HERE. Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by SW3 5DL (talk • contribs)

Thank you, commented there. — Cirt (talk) 16:09, 21 October 2014 (UTC)

diff. — Cirt (talk) 16:10, 21 October 2014 (UTC)

1. Team effectiveness
2. Florian Znaniecki
3. Boobrie

I will review these three articles for GA candidacy from sub-topic Culture, sociology and psychology. — Cirt (talk) 20:32, 10 October 2014 (UTC)

Update: Posted Stability review for Team effectiveness, Florian Znaniecki, and Boobrie. Next, on to Image review for each. — Cirt (talk) 04:49, 11 October 2014 (UTC)

Left Image review for Team effectiveness, awaiting response from nominator. — Cirt (talk) 04:58, 11 October 2014 (UTC)

Posted Image review for Florian Znaniecki, awaiting response from nominator. — Cirt (talk) 05:02, 11 October 2014 (UTC)

Added Image review for Boobrie, no pending issues with image use on that one. — Cirt (talk) 05:07, 11 October 2014 (UTC)

Left notes on user talk pages for nominators of Team effectiveness and Florian Znaniecki, that I'm awaiting their responses at the GA Review subpages for regarding the Image review. — Cirt (talk) 00:45, 12 October 2014 (UTC)

GA nominators responded well at Team effectiveness and Florian Znaniecki, will take another look at both soon. — Cirt (talk) 03:46, 14 October 2014 (UTC)

Update: Team effectiveness ready for full review, Florian Znaniecki has unaddressed issues with its WP:LEAD sect, waiting for nominator Piotrus to respond to those. — Cirt (talk) 23:33, 14 October 2014 (UTC)

Update: Team effectiveness passed as GA. — Cirt (talk) 00:07, 15 October 2014 (UTC)

Update: Florian Znaniecki looks much better in the WP:LEAD sect, will do rest of review next. — Cirt (talk) 12:09, 15 October 2014 (UTC)

Passed Florian Znaniecki as GA. — Cirt (talk) 16:52, 15 October 2014 (UTC)

Passed Boobrie as GA. — Cirt (talk) 02:06, 23 October 2014 (UTC)

Hi there, I'm pleased to inform you that I've begun reviewing the article Hitachi Magic Wand you nominated for GA-status according to the criteria. This process may take up to 7 days. Feel free to contact me with any questions or comments you might have during this period. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Kaciemonster -- Kaciemonster (talk) 02:01, 22 October 2014 (UTC)

Time for a break and some exercise and some time to breathe in the fresh air among good company with friends outdoors. :)

Be back later in a few hours to contemplate other Quality improvement projects and perhaps some future WP:FA projects.

— Cirt (talk) 21:02, 24 October 2014 (UTC)

The article Hitachi Magic Wand you nominated as a good article has passed ; see Talk:Hitachi Magic Wand for comments about the article. Well done! If the article has not already been on the main page as an "In the news" or "Did you know" item, you can nominate it to appear in Did you know. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Kaciemonster -- Kaciemonster (talk) 03:22, 24 October 2014 (UTC)

Thanks very much, Kaciemonster, I thoroughly enjoyed your GA Review. :) — Cirt (talk) 03:23, 24 October 2014 (UTC)

I had a great time reviewing it, nice job on the article :) Kaciemonster (talk) 03:27, 24 October 2014 (UTC)

Thank you! :) — Cirt (talk) 03:28, 24 October 2014 (UTC)

new article, written by a WP:SPA. Thoughts on delete v keep? thanks~ Jytdog (talk) 17:00, 27 October 2014 (UTC)

@Jytdog:I'll have a look into it. — Cirt (talk) 19:09, 27 October 2014 (UTC)

Jytdog, I've looked at the lack of source coverage and nominated it for consideration at WP:AFD. — Cirt (talk) 19:23, 27 October 2014 (UTC)

interesting. thanks for replying! Jytdog (talk) 19:24, 27 October 2014 (UTC)

My pleasure, Jytdog, and thanks for alerting me to this. I'm glad you find it interesting. :) — Cirt (talk) 19:25, 27 October 2014 (UTC)

i really had no idea what you would think of it, much less do. it is interesting to me. i don't know much about WP culture around article deletion/retention, and observing is a great way to learn. so thanks.Jytdog (talk) 19:28, 27 October 2014 (UTC)

I'm glad my actions surprised you, it's nice to know I've broken the mold regarding some of your assumptions and/or preconceived notions about me, Jytdog. :) I've posted a couple new AFDs to WT:MED. Feel free to participate at those, if you wish. — Cirt (talk) 19:31, 27 October 2014 (UTC)

i had no fucking preconceptions about you. what opinion i have of you has been informed entirely by our interactions. some of which has been delightful, some of which still confuses me. this is what it means to be human.Jytdog (talk) 19:34, 27 October 2014 (UTC)

Well, Jytdog, I'm glad my later actions have broken the mold of your opinion about me from my prior actions. :) — Cirt (talk) 19:35, 27 October 2014 (UTC)

 :) i really have no mold for you. one of my personal governing values is to try to be very clear about what i know and what i don't know (and to have antennae vibrating for the inevitable things i don't even know that i don't know), and act accordingly... and i barely know you. but i reckon i will get to know you! Jytdog (talk) 19:46, 27 October 2014 (UTC)

Okay, that sounds like a good approach, Jytdog, I wish you well. I think we mostly agree on the importance of science, the scientific method, and scientific skepticism. — Cirt (talk) 19:48, 27 October 2014 (UTC)

@Jytdog:FWIW, I went through all the organizations listed at Template:Animal testing end and didn't see any others worth sending to WP:AFD. — Cirt (talk) 19:57, 27 October 2014 (UTC)

I did too and thought the same. Jytdog (talk) 20:12, 27 October 2014 (UTC)

Heh, maybe there's hope for us, Jytdog, after all! :P — Cirt (talk) 20:13, 27 October 2014 (UTC)

indeed! Jytdog (talk) 20:14, 27 October 2014 (UTC)

Thanks very much, Northamerica1000, and to you as well! :) — Cirt (talk) 08:18, 27 October 2014 (UTC)

Thanks! NorthAmerica¹⁰⁰⁰ 08:19, 27 October 2014 (UTC)

	The Quarter Million Award
	For quality improvement work bringing the highly viewed article Hitachi Magic Wand (estimated annual readership: 325,000) from Start-class to WP:GA, I hereby award you The Quarter Million Award. Congratulations, and thanks for all you do for Wikipedia's readers! --Diannaa (talk) 14:36, 27 October 2014 (UTC)

Thank you, Diannaa, I really appreciate this. — Cirt (talk) 19:09, 27 October 2014 (UTC)

Thanks very much, Davey2010, much appreciated. — Cirt (talk) 19:09, 27 October 2014 (UTC)

You're more than welcome Cirt :), Have a nice day, Regards, –Davey2010 • (talk) 19:12, 27 October 2014 (UTC)

Hi Cirt, I'm new to Wikipedia and authored the article for "Five Star Urgent Care" which you have marked as "considered for deletion." Can you please advise me on how I can improve this article to prevent it from being deleted? Thank you. 19!dea$ (talk) 13:48, 28 October 2014 (UTC)

• User:Cirt/Gutting

I've created an essay on Gutting an article during deletion discussion.

You may find it interesting reading at: User:Cirt/Gutting.

Cheers,

— Cirt (talk) 18:22, 18 October 2014 (UTC)

I've started a peer review for the WP:GA quality article, R U Professional.

Comments to help further improve quality would be appreciated, at Wikipedia:Peer review/R U Professional/archive1.

— Cirt (talk) 19:20, 20 October 2014 (UTC)

May try to find some time to leave a few helpful notes at some other peer review to pitch in. :) — Cirt (talk) 20:43, 24 October 2014 (UTC)

1. Update: Left peer review comments for Wikipedia:Peer review/Emily Ratajkowski/archive1. — Cirt (talk) 14:17, 25 October 2014 (UTC)
2. Commented at Wikipedia:Peer review/2008 Summer Olympics/archive2. — Cirt (talk) 17:47, 25 October 2014 (UTC)
3. Added comments to Wikipedia:Peer review/Beau Ideal/archive1. — Cirt (talk) 17:59, 25 October 2014 (UTC)
4. Commented at Wikipedia:Peer review/Jefferson–Hemings controversy/archive1. — Cirt (talk) 18:11, 25 October 2014 (UTC)
5. Left comments at Wikipedia:Peer review/John Johnson (footballer)/archive1. — Cirt (talk) 18:23, 25 October 2014 (UTC)
6. Commented at Wikipedia:Peer review/Peter Aduja/archive1. — Cirt (talk) 18:53, 25 October 2014 (UTC)
7. Left query at Wikipedia:Peer review/Meineke Car Care Center/archive1, this one appears to be resolved per comments at the article's talk page. — Cirt (talk) 19:15, 25 October 2014 (UTC)
8. Update: Left peer review comments for Wikipedia:Peer review/Fabula Nova Crystallis Final Fantasy/archive1. — Cirt (talk) 19:29, 25 October 2014 (UTC)
9. Left several comments at Wikipedia:Peer review/Meg White/archive1. — Cirt (talk) 19:42, 25 October 2014 (UTC)
10. Gave review at Wikipedia:Peer review/Maribojoc Church/archive1. — Cirt (talk) 20:27, 25 October 2014 (UTC)

I've nominated the article Fuck It, We'll Do It Live for Good Article quality candidacy, listed under Wikipedia:Good_article_nominations/Topic_lists/Music#Albums. — Cirt (talk) 20:23, 24 October 2014 (UTC)

I would like to be able to review some other music albums GA candidates, just not sure I'll have time, at least in the immediate future. Although, maybe one or two here and there. — Cirt (talk) 20:32, 24 October 2014 (UTC)

Hello, I have attempted to make edits to amend the issues with this page. Can you please review for me? This is my first post edit, don't want this page to be deleted. Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Margiejape (talk • contribs) 01:50, 29 October 2014 (UTC)

Mulling over my next new article creation project.

Debating whether to create a new article related to freedom of speech or science.

— Cirt (talk) 04:53, 9 October 2014 (UTC)

Might actually end up doing something to improve an existing article related to both WP:Freedom of speech and WP:GGTF. — Cirt (talk) 04:07, 31 October 2014 (UTC)

I notice when you corrected the filename for the spoken word version of Fuck, you changed the extension from .ogg to .oga. The same thing happened to File:En-us-Oligomer.oga when I requested that that be moved. Should I be saving these as .oga files? Can you point me in the direction of something as to why this is done? 0x0077BE [^talk/_contrib] 19:17, 1 November 2014 (UTC)

Cirt, sorry about editing your comment. I honestly wasn't thinking that it was a comment, but that it was a sort of sub heading to the discussion. I have never edited anyone's comment before, ever. As you noticed, I only updated that one word. Nice article by the way, and as you can see, I am all for it being on the main page. Cheers. Prhartcom (talk) 02:46, 2 November 2014 (UTC)

I see we were writing on each other's page at the same time! Ha. No, I'm NOT going to ask him if I can edit his comment; I'm dropping now. BTW, that is so great that you got permission from the publisher to use their book cover; I have never seen that before. This will really add impact when this appears on the main page. See you around. Prhartcom (talk) 02:54, 2 November 2014 (UTC)

I was just thinking about one article if it had never been discusses and you cleared it for me in a few minutes! What a coincidence... Regards. --Why should I have a User Name? (talk) 11:56, 2 November 2014 (UTC)

Oh I'm not active again, I just pop up here and there. I had a huge 5 year run of editing and I pretty much burned myself out... That, and I had achieved most of what I'd wanted to. So I've been semi-retired and every now and then I check one the articles I helped perfect, only to be shocked and how much it's fallen.

Yes, I do have the DVD for that episode and I'm almost positive it's mentioned. I'm quite surprised that the line isn't mentioned in the article for the episode (though it could be that the line is talked about in the commentary for a different episode). I'll try to give it a listen on Tuesday. -- Scorpion⁰⁴²² 02:11, 3 November 2014 (UTC)

No, sorry, but it doesn't work like that. It's {{WP:BRD]] not WP:BDR. The onus is on the editor proposing the changes to make her case. It's important! I think if instead of WP:BRD we had the policy "changes are assumed to be acceptable, the onus is on the person wanting to reject the change to make his case" we would have a very different, and not necessarily better, encyclopedia.

So let's not edit war over this. That is frowned upon here. I know you will do the right thing and restore the article to its previous state and make the case for any changes on the article talk page. I've opened a thread just for this purpose. This would, I think, be the collegial thing to do, and we can discuss this like reasonable people, I hope. Herostratus (talk) 04:42, 3 November 2014 (UTC)

Herostratus (talk · contribs), please don't violate site policy of WP:No original research (as you did twice now at DIFF 1 and DIFF 2), and please engage in discussion at the article's talk page. — Cirt (talk) 04:45, 3 November 2014 (UTC)

Time for a break to de-stress. :) Be back later to hopefully come back to some Quality improvement projects. — Cirt (talk) 05:00, 3 November 2014 (UTC)

Would love to help my friend, but I am spending all my time literally 'thinking of the children' as a trainee primary (elementary) school teacher. Rest assured I agree that the changes you have made represent a substantial improvement and should be preserved. Good luck. Gran² 20:21, 3 November 2014 (UTC)

If you want to complain, then go to ANI. I don't have the time to do anything right now and I have been criticized in the past for taking administrative measures against TFAR contributors, so find someone else if really necessary, thanks. And perhaps not recycling old grudges would help. Bencherlite^Talk 17:15, 3 November 2014 (UTC)

Replied at Bencherlite talk page. — Cirt (talk) 17:33, 3 November 2014 (UTC)

I just want to note something here:

1. Thanks to Lquilter, I was able to look through Category:Free speech activists.
2. Back when the late Adrianne Wadewitz was discussing the Gender bias on Wikipedia in the media, I was inspired and decided to try to improve in quality an article that was both related to women and one of my topics of interest, freedom of speech.
3. So thanks to Lquilter, I looked through the articles at Category:Free speech activists for one on a woman that was deceased (and would therefore be less likely to have new information develop during the course of her life, and I could find a relatively full corpus of existing sources to improve the quality of the article).
4. I chose the article Judith Krug.
5. This was the state of that article before my quality improvement project began.
6. I successfully improved the article to Good Article quality, see this version as promoted to GA.

• I agree with the initiative of the Gender gap task force and the fact that there is indeed a Gender bias on Wikipedia.
• But, like Judith Krug, I also believe that women can be strong supporters of freedom of speech, as she was during her lifetime.

I'll try to compile here, potential quality improvement projects, that are similar to above: related to both women and freedom of speech. I'll start with other women from Category:Free speech activists. — Cirt (talk) 21:38, 30 October 2014 (UTC)

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Possible quality improvement projects -- related to both women and freedom of speech:

Looking for deceased women from Category:Free speech activists:

1. Zoia Horn - note: recently deceased, dovetails with history relating to successful WP:GA quality improvement on Judith Krug, might be able to find similar research sources.
2. Ida Craddock
3. Lena Morrow Lewis
4. Kitty Marion
5. Harriet Pilpel
6. Margaret Sanger - note: already WP:GA, maybe could take to WP:FA with others helping in collaborative project.
7. Ayşe Nur Zarakolu
8. Barbara Gittings
9. Clara Breed

— Cirt (talk) 21:43, 30 October 2014 (UTC)

Perhaps Djembayz or Carolmooredc would like to help collaborate on one of these Quality improvement projects to improve an article from Category:Free speech activists on a deceased woman who was a supporter of freedom of speech. — Cirt (talk) 21:48, 30 October 2014 (UTC)

Of the above the one most directly related to freedom of speech is Zoia Horn. I think I'll begin some preliminary research and minor improvements to that article. If Djembayz or Carolmooredc or anyone else from WP:GGTF wishes to help out in a collaborative initiative, that'd be most appreciated. :) — Cirt (talk) 21:58, 30 October 2014 (UTC)

Added two to above list that could be future potential Quality improvement projects: Barbara Gittings and Clara Breed. More generally related to human rights than to freedom of speech specifically, but articles on fascinating deceased female librarians. — Cirt (talk) 19:00, 31 October 2014 (UTC)

Threw File:Speech bubble - "Won't somebody please think of the children?!".svg together, if you'd still like to use it - feel free to suggest or make any changes to it :) ~SuperHamster Talk Contribs 02:47, 4 November 2014 (UTC)

Do you still want me to listen to the commentary? The first thing I can say is that Helen Lovejoy's use of the phrase is actually overstated. Her first use of it came in season 7 in Much Apu About Nothing (and she said it a few times there), and she said it a few times after that. I can't recall precisely which other episodes it was used in, but I know Moe used it once. -- Scorpion⁰⁴²² 15:11, 4 November 2014 (UTC)

Her first use of the phrase is "Think of the children!" and it starts at roughly 4:23 into the episode. The next use is the same thing and it's at about 5:51. At 6:21 she says "Oh won't somebody please think of the children.

Here's the transcript of the commentary for the relevant parts.

• Matt Groening: "You guys [Josh Weinstein and Bill Oakley] loved the think of the children. That's your little catchphrase."
• Bill Oakley: "I'd like to point out that that was only ever used in this episode. [Not true] But the - and the thing is - watching this episode, I don't think it's clear what the intent of that was. The intent is that in every political debate there's some imbecile who's going 'think of the children' even when the children have nothing to do with the debate. And it often derails the debate because you have to think of the children and really, quite frankly, a lot of things aren't intended for children or children have no bearing on."
• That's the most relevant bit, they talk a bit more about children, this is what David Cohen says after that.
• David X. Cohen: "Yes, I remember Bill used to give this diatribe regularly at The Simpsons about how everything in life had to be watered down for children and adults couldn't have any entertainment but of course now you have two kids that you didn't have then."
• And there's a few more things, but nothing really useable.

She says it again in Homer vs. the Eighteenth Amendment. It's "Oh, won't somebody please think of the children." There are others as well, like I said, I think Moe says it at some point, possibly in Natural Born Kissers. -- Scorpion⁰⁴²² 15:39, 4 November 2014 (UTC)

Hi Cirt,

From your user page, it appears that you have quite a bit of experience in dealing with FAs, so I am assuming you are also fairly well-versed in Wikipedia policy/guidelines. I am currently involved in a discussion on another article's talk page about the use of in-text attribution in articles, especially when the relevant author or article being attributed is cited as a source. This is quite similar to what I discussed at Talk:Cartman Gets an Anal Probe#Themes: Ethan Thompson in-text attribution. I and another editor feel that both an in-text attribution and cited source are needed in certain cases because paraphrasing is being used to express the ideas/opinions of a particular author/article regarding the subject matter; Other editors feel that a only citation is needed and that an in-text attribution is basically nothing more than "a primary source talking about itself", and thus is a violation of Wikipedia policy. Please understand that I'm not trying to canvas or forum shop. I just figured that someone with your experience in dealing with high-quality articles might be able to provide some perspective that will help us reach a consensus that is acceptable to all involved. It may actually be in this particular case that my argument is faulty, but the opposing arguments, as presented so far, do not lead me to think that is the case. Thanks in advance. - Marchjuly (talk) 05:48, 4 November 2014 (UTC)

In the past, there have been requests that discussions about potentially controversial TFAs are brought to the attention of more than just those who have WP:TFAR on their watchlist. With that in mind: Fuck: Word Taboo and Protecting Our First Amendment Liberties has been nominated for an appearance as Today's Featured Article. If you have any views, please comment at Wikipedia:Today's featured article/requests. Thank you. — Cirt (talk) 22:11, 29 October 2014 (UTC)

Hi. I hope you don't mind that I've edited your notification at Talk:Main Page to point the link directly to the discussion section (feel free to revert if you're not okay with it). Thanks. wctaiwan (talk) 00:45, 30 October 2014 (UTC)

Yes, that's fine, I just used the same formatting as a prior notification. — Cirt (talk) 00:51, 30 October 2014 (UTC)

1. Permanent Record: Al in the Box
2. Destiny's Child Video Anthology

I will review these candidates for GA, from topic Wikipedia:Good_article_nominations/Topic_lists/Music#Albums. — Cirt (talk) 17:55, 26 October 2014 (UTC)

Update: Posted Stability review for Permanent Record: Al in the Box and Destiny's Child Video Anthology. Next, on to image review for each, then rest of review for each. — Cirt (talk) 22:53, 29 October 2014 (UTC)

Added Image review for Permanent Record: Al in the Box. — Cirt (talk) 00:13, 30 October 2014 (UTC)

Added Image review at Talk:Destiny's Child Video Anthology/GA1, and awaiting response from My love is love at that page. — Cirt (talk) 00:24, 30 October 2014 (UTC)

I've gone ahead and fixed the image page myself. :) — Cirt (talk) 00:26, 30 October 2014 (UTC)

Next up: Rest of reviews for Permanent Record: Al in the Box and Destiny's Child Video Anthology. — Cirt (talk) 04:23, 30 October 2014 (UTC)

Passed Permanent Record: Al in the Box as GA. — Cirt (talk) 03:27, 1 November 2014 (UTC)

Next up: Rest of review for Destiny's Child Video Anthology. — Cirt (talk) 06:05, 1 November 2014 (UTC)

Passed Destiny's Child Video Anthology as GA. — Cirt (talk) 16:47, 4 November 2014 (UTC)

As a fellow editor accused of "bludgeoning", I empathize with your frustration. But at this point, even I think that you're going too far (and that's a bad sign).
Please try to take it down a notch (or, better yet, two or three notches). Don't use replies as launchpads for tangentially relevant side discussions. When Bencherlite shuts down a line of questioning, don't respond by pestering him about it, brainstorming alternatives, and dragging out the exchanges with further pestering. Just let it go. You're becoming your own worst enemy. —David Levy 01:20, 5 November 2014 (UTC)

Understood, good points all. I'll take your advice. Thank you. — Cirt (talk) 01:21, 5 November 2014 (UTC)

Hello there. For the moment, in my nature of an "opportunistic" editor (that is, I generally just make edits when I see something that I believe are flagrantly "wrong" in areas where I've gathered some knowledge"), I am not particularly prone to making a formal user page. There's also the fact that there are a few areas where I disagree on the general concensus of what establishes an ideal source (to put it in casual terms: every now and then you run into extremely well-documented blogs that provide excellent insight into an underground cultural phenomenon, but a poorly researched article will be preferred just because the author got paid to write it by an "established" magazine). I understand the underlying concerns of such policies, but as an active member of certain underground communities, I do strongly feel that overly-eager "outsiders" (not to sound elitist) can easily miss certain de facto standards. Alas, I did have an epiphany that Wikipedia isn't the only place out there that provides us with space for such documentation. Perhaps as time passes there will be a reconsideration of how certain things have shifted with time and the existence of new media (such as the obsolescence of placing weight on "professional" in fields that have always been subjective by nature).

But really, hope that didn't sound too edgy. For the few complaints I have, this place is ultimately a nice community dedicated to constantly improving. Cheers. 201.190.31.192 (talk) 01:47, 5 November 2014 (UTC)

No, no ideas for better images, I'm afraid. It does seem like a tricky one. --McGeddon (talk) 20:35, 5 November 2014 (UTC)

what do you think about this new article? Traditional Chinese medicine Network Pharmacology nom for delete? Jytdog (talk) 12:07, 8 November 2014 (UTC)

 Done. — Cirt (talk) 18:11, 8 November 2014 (UTC)

I couldn't pick an interesting fact. I see you have known how to nominate the article. Why not nominating it yourself? --George Ho (talk) 06:37, 9 November 2014 (UTC)

1. Playlist: The Very Best of Destiny's Child
2. Mandatory Fun

I will review these candidates for GA, from topic Wikipedia:Good_article_nominations/Topic_lists/Music#Albums. — Cirt (talk) 16:54, 4 November 2014 (UTC)

Update: Posted image reviews for both Playlist: The Very Best of Destiny's Child and Mandatory Fun. Awaiting response from Masem regarding a couple images at Mandatory Fun. — Cirt (talk) 00:36, 5 November 2014 (UTC)

Mandatory Fun awaiting response from Masem about Stability review question, and otherwise waiting flickr review at Commons for one image. — Cirt (talk) 01:45, 5 November 2014 (UTC)

Update: For Playlist: The Very Best of Destiny's Child and Mandatory Fun, both Stability review and Image review now done. Next, on to rest of reviews for each. — Cirt (talk) 16:05, 6 November 2014 (UTC)

Passed Mandatory Fun as GA, with a couple suggestions left for nominator in final review. — Cirt (talk) 18:09, 6 November 2014 (UTC)

Update: I've asked My love is love to expand the lede intro sect for Playlist: The Very Best of Destiny's Child a bit, awaiting response. — Cirt (talk) 20:13, 6 November 2014 (UTC)

Passed Playlist: The Very Best of Destiny's Child as GA. — Cirt (talk) 02:31, 12 November 2014 (UTC)

Don't you think it would go better by the text that praises her artwork? Where it is now it has no relation to the text and is sandwiching text between it and the quote box. Curly Turkey ⚞¡gobble!⚟ 07:31, 11 November 2014 (UTC)

@Curly Turkey:I liked it better on the left personally, but I've switched it back to the right. No worries, — Cirt (talk) 12:14, 11 November 2014 (UTC)

I didn't mean left vs right, I meant about having the image close to text talking about Moen. Curly Turkey ¡gobble! 21:05, 11 November 2014 (UTC)

 Done, hopefully better now. :) — Cirt (talk) 21:09, 11 November 2014 (UTC)

Hmmm... I guess I didn't read the quote box before, but now that I have... it reads more like advertising copy than something appropriate to an encyclopedia article. If you drop it, you'll be much more free with the image placement. Either way, I'd drop the quote box. Curly Turkey ¡gobble! 22:08, 11 November 2014 (UTC)

 Done, removed quote box and moved image back to right align, better? — Cirt (talk) 23:47, 11 November 2014 (UTC)

Looks good—I'm not much concerned about right vs left. Curly Turkey ¡gobble! 00:07, 12 November 2014 (UTC)

Okay thanks, either way would be fine with me. — Cirt (talk) 00:07, 12 November 2014 (UTC)

Although you might want to use the quote in the body. Curly Turkey ¡gobble! 00:08, 12 November 2014 (UTC)

Oh, yeah it's already there in the Reception section. — Cirt (talk) 00:10, 12 November 2014 (UTC)

I saw your comments about my lack of contributions on Saturday Night Live and G.I. Jeff, which is true. I simply thought they met the criteria for the statuses and I apologise for sort of glossing over that part. I'm new here, what would be an easy way to notify the top contributors to the articles? StewdioMACK (talk) 03:55, 13 November 2014 (UTC)

Replied at User talk:StewdioMACK. — Cirt (talk) 04:26, 13 November 2014 (UTC)

• Bucko

I've created a new article on graphic novel Bucko.

Help or suggestions with additional secondary sources would be appreciated on the article's talk page, at Talk:Bucko.

Thank you, — Cirt (talk) 04:26, 9 November 2014 (UTC)

• From The Doctor to my son Thomas

I've created a new article on viral video From The Doctor to my son Thomas.

Help or suggestions with additional secondary sources would be appreciated on the article's talk page, at Talk:From The Doctor to my son Thomas.

Thank you, — Cirt (talk) 23:17, 10 November 2014 (UTC)

Here's a cookie! Luthien22 (talk) 23:49, 12 November 2014 (UTC)

Thanks very much, Luthien22, most appreciated! — Cirt (talk) 00:02, 13 November 2014 (UTC)

Hi there! I nominated Saturday Night Live for peer review at this link if you wanna leave any comments. Thanks, StewdioMACK (talk) 09:52, 13 November 2014 (UTC)

Okay I'll see about taking time to leave comments in a while. — Cirt (talk) 15:46, 13 November 2014 (UTC)

I left a few comments at Wikipedia:Peer review/Saturday Night Live/archive1. — Cirt (talk) 21:40, 13 November 2014 (UTC)

I was afraid something like that might have happened. Had a crash while editing just a section, just as I was about to save it. On recovery afterward, I saw that the session came back up and, seemingly too good to be true, it was exactly as I'd "left" it. And I clicked the save button. Sorry. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.103.3.154 (talk • contribs)

Don't know what that's all about but okay. — Cirt (talk) 21:30, 13 November 2014 (UTC)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Notability_(music)#WP:NSONG_needs_re-evaluating_and_re-wording — Preceding unsigned comment added by Calvin999 (talk • contribs)

Okay, will try to take a look a bit later. — Cirt (talk) 12:04, 14 November 2014 (UTC)

Update: Commented. — Cirt (talk) 12:15, 14 November 2014 (UTC)

The article Lorna Goldberg has been proposed for deletion because of the following concern:

No assertion of notability. Sourced only to personal and related websites.

While all constructive contributions to Wikipedia are appreciated, content or articles may be deleted for any of several reasons.

You may prevent the proposed deletion by removing the {{proposed deletion/dated}} notice, but please explain why in your edit summary or on the article's talk page.

Please consider improving the article to address the issues raised. Removing {{proposed deletion/dated}} will stop the proposed deletion process, but other deletion processes exist. In particular, the speedy deletion process can result in deletion without discussion, and articles for deletion allows discussion to reach consensus for deletion. Kitfoxxe (talk) 00:09, 15 November 2014 (UTC)

Thank you, Kitfoxxe (talk · contribs), for this notification. I won't be participating in this deletion procedure, and will instead respectfully defer to the consensus outcome from the WP:PROD process as determined by the community. Please also note that the last time I edited that page was over seven (7) years ago. — Cirt (talk) 00:14, 15 November 2014 (UTC)

He's ignored your warnings and I agree that the behaviour is disruptive, two weeks this time. Thanks Jimfbleak - talk to me? 07:16, 15 November 2014 (UTC)

Alright thanks for the notification. — Cirt (talk) 15:36, 15 November 2014 (UTC)

1. Number 1's (Destiny's Child album)
2. Hydra (Within Temptation album)
3. Janet Jackson (album)

I will review these candidates for GA, from topic Wikipedia:Good_article_nominations/Topic_lists/Music#Albums. — Cirt (talk) 02:39, 12 November 2014 (UTC)

Update: Added Image review and Stability review for Number 1's (Destiny's Child album). — Cirt (talk) 04:07, 15 November 2014 (UTC)

Hydra (Within Temptation album) found unfortunately to be Not GA at this time. — Cirt (talk) 04:09, 15 November 2014 (UTC)

Added Stability review and Image review for Janet Jackson (album). — Cirt (talk) 04:14, 15 November 2014 (UTC)

Passed Number 1's (Destiny's Child album) as GA. — Cirt (talk) 20:10, 15 November 2014 (UTC)

Closed review of Janet Jackson (album) with promotion. — Cirt (talk) 03:43, 16 November 2014 (UTC)

Fuck: Word Taboo and Protecting Our First Amendment Liberties has been nominated for an appearance as Today's Featured Article.

If you have any views, please comment at Wikipedia:Today's featured article/requests/Fuck: Word Taboo and Protecting Our First Amendment Liberties.

Thank you. — Cirt (talk) 16:55, 4 November 2014 (UTC)

Hi there, I'm pleased to inform you that I've begun reviewing the article From The Doctor to my son Thomas you nominated for GA-status according to the criteria. This process may take up to 7 days. Feel free to contact me with any questions or comments you might have during this period. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Miyagawa -- Miyagawa (talk) 11:44, 15 November 2014 (UTC)

Thanks very much, Miyagawa, most appreciated. — Cirt (talk) 15:36, 15 November 2014 (UTC)

I'm taking a break for some exercise and fresh air. :)

Might be back later to see about some GA Reviewing.

We shall see,

— Cirt (talk) 22:07, 18 November 2014 (UTC)

Well that was fun and refreshing. :) — Cirt (talk) 23:59, 18 November 2014 (UTC)

Thank you for the welcome. However, I am actually an active Wikipedia contributor; I simply did not want to involve my account with this sensitive subject. It can often bring too much noise to me for it. - 64.235.72.185 (talk) 02:01, 20 November 2014 (UTC)

Time for a fun break. :)

I'm off to meet up with some friends over some tasty spirits.

Cheers,

— Cirt (talk) 02:09, 19 November 2014 (UTC)

Back briefly, now out again for some contemplation and relaxation. — Cirt (talk) 09:34, 19 November 2014 (UTC)

Hey Cirt, I saw that From The Doctor to my son Thomas got promoted: nice work. Since you're good at compiling sources, I was wondering if you could help me draft an article of an episode from the show Clarence. The episode is called "Neighborhood Grill", and it gained a lot of notoriety earlier this month (both in the United States and internationally) for its portrayal of a gay couple. Currently there's only one paragraph dedicated to it in the Clarence article, but seeing what you did with Thomas I think you could expand upon it easily. I can provide a plot summary if you wish. Thanks for considerin'. ₂₃W 03:48, 21 November 2014 (UTC)

Sorry, 23W, but I'm quite busy with other Quality improvement projects and other stuff in life at the moment. But I'd strongly suggest you consider resources for additional references such as WP:The Wikipedia Library and the WP:Reference desk. Hope that's helpful, — Cirt (talk) 03:49, 21 November 2014 (UTC)

The article From The Doctor to my son Thomas you nominated as a good article has passed ; see Talk:From The Doctor to my son Thomas for comments about the article. Well done! If the article has not already been on the main page as an "In the news" or "Did you know" item, you can nominate it to appear in Did you know. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Miyagawa -- Miyagawa (talk) 16:23, 18 November 2014 (UTC)

I see that you are archiving discussions at the Date rape article. Don't archive the latest two discussions there; they are not resolved. Well, that merge discussion is not. Flyer22 (talk) 00:42, 25 November 2014 (UTC)

Replied at user's talk page. — Cirt (talk) 00:45, 25 November 2014 (UTC)

	The Defender of the Wiki Barnstar
	You receive the Defender of the Wiki Barnstar for removing vandalism from no worries, or for worrying about "no worries"! :-) gidonb (talk) 17:44, 23 November 2014 (UTC)

Thanks very much, Gidonb, much appreciated! — Cirt (talk) 17:47, 23 November 2014 (UTC)

You're welcome, keep up the good work!!! gidonb (talk) 17:56, 23 November 2014 (UTC)

This wiki-kitten is here to say "the names of many articles you chose to improve are simply cool" :D Seriously, keep up the good work!

_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 03:31, 24 November 2014 (UTC)

Thanks very much, Piotrus, most appreciated! :) — Cirt (talk) 04:25, 24 November 2014 (UTC)

At Talk:Public HIV testing in the United States#Broader topic of screening, there is ongoing discussion of re-focusing that article. You commented at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Public HIV testing in the United States (which closed "no consensus"), and might be interested in commenting at the new discussion. All AFD commenters are being contacted now. --doncram 22:22, 29 November 2014 (UTC)

Thanks, but I'll respectfully defer to community consensus. — Cirt (talk) 23:03, 29 November 2014 (UTC)

Hello, I am a publicist from Bengal. I noticed that you have discussed and deleted Saptaswa Basu (page). I was not the creator of that page but I can confirm that he is a notable personality in Bengal and in the city of Kolkata. I have given here numerous more links to published articles about his works including Zeenews, Festival focus and other links. There are many other articles existing in wikipedia with just 3 or 4 links, with incorrect info too, but they are not facing this tag of deletion. You can see pages Mir Afsar Ali, Subhasree Ganguly etc where the references are not much strong too. On the contrary, now I have added many references to SAPTASWA BASU to make it a source for reliable info. To the truest of my knowledge, the page is not any kind of advertisement or promotion. Please look into the matter. I have requested some film personalities too to join wikipedia and support the article. I am a basic writer and would really appreciate your help in improving the article. I will be adding more reference links of current works too. Please check the page and approve it. I will be waiting for your response. Here are the additional links that I have given, which may compensate for the lesser number of link present earlier.

http://www.washingtonbanglaradio.com/content/62758511-interview-director-saptaswa-basu-shares-thoughts-pyschological-drama-thriller-forlo

http://119.82.71.49/thestatesman/story.aspx?id=5284&boxid=18587953&ed_date=2014-9-27&ed_code=820009&ed_page=19#.VCY6NEctXx8

http://www.ebela.in/paper/16-9-28@11@2014.html (Regional paper)

http://www.scoop.it/t/the-cinema-watcher/p/197475880/2011/06/12/interview-director-saptaswa-basu-shares-thoughts-on-pyschological-drama-washington-bangla-radio

https://in.news.yahoo.com/lights-camera-action-183000316.html

https://www.academia.edu/2156551/Closing_Day_of_Imphal_International_Short_Film_Festival_2012

http://zeenews.india.com/entertainment/bollywood/-the-forlorn-opens-manipur-s-first-international-film-fest_109542.html

http://www.festivalfocus.org/news.php?uid=1201

http://www.thestatesman.co.in/news/78972--I-ve-decided-to-have-little-dreams-and-move-on-.html

Some more links are present too, I will search and add once the page is functionalRoon100 (talk) 04:30, 30 November 2014 (UTC)

Yes, I have already read the discussion. I have seen that there was an issue with the number of reference links or invalid links. That is why I have supplied with updated set of links which will prove that it is a reliable source of info and not any form of advert or promo. Like thousands other film personalities who work in the regional films, he may noto be notable worldwide but he is a famous personality in the state of Bengal. Kindly suggest me what should be done to restore the page. You can check all the links that I sent in the previous message. Please let me know and help me in this. Roon100 (talk) 04:38, 30 November 2014 (UTC)

I have send this message to you and only to others who have participated in the discussion and deletion of the page. Firstly, I am a basic writer and I do not know the process of creating a sandbox article, that is the reason I asked for your help. And before that, I have been trying to restore the deleted page, and hence the communication with you. This is not Mr. Nolan's film that it will take repeated reading to understand. Please help me un-delete that page. Roon100 (talk) 04:53, 30 November 2014 (UTC)

yes I will surely do that. However, you are the one who discussed about "invalid links" and "non-notable" personality, that is the reason I needed to give you the links so that you can inform the admin who deleted the page to revert that action of deletion. That would have been the easiest way. But even when I requested repeatedly, you are in no mood to help me out, and that is the problem. So many incorrect articles exist on wiki with just 2 or 3 (invalid) references, but that page was the one which you choose to talk about. You can verify with ANYONE in Bengal or the Bengali film industry and know about his works. I won;t further message in your page but I would expect you to send a message to the admin to restore that page immediately Roon100 (talk) 05:03, 30 November 2014 (UTC)

I am not getting entertained messaging you. Please stop saying "read the above". Please stop it. Tell me what is the step to restore the article. Tell me that! Which will be really helpful. People are so much enthusiastic in destroying (deleting) things, and no one gives a hand of help in creating something. That should be the next Nolan film for sure. This time I AM REQUESTING YOU to stop saying the same thing and tell me how to restore the deleted page. Roon100 (talk) 05:09, 30 November 2014 (UTC)

Cool! Now my discussions are "violations of promise" and "lies". Where are you from, man?? You think I am a stupid liar kind of a person? I wouldn't have messaged if you had given me a good advice on "how to restore a deleted page". I am the one who has been messaging in a polite manner with requests from the very beginning and you are the one who is saying things like "IDIDNTHEARTHAT" and"FORUMSHOPPING". It's amazing that a page was deleted based on the advice of yours. I will stop messaging once you help me or advice me in "How to restore a deleted page" — Preceding unsigned comment added by Roon100 (talk • contribs) 05:16, 30 November 2014 (UTC)

It appears that the now blocked Roon100 posted the replies I made to him on both my page and for some reason your page. I have no idea why. I apologize for inadvertently dragging you into our conversation, as that was not my intention, and I hope that the dual postings didn't inconvenience you too much. TomStar81 (Talk) 03:52, 1 December 2014 (UTC)

I'll Look into it. I'm new to this though, so it may take a little a while (like 15-20 mins) to get caught up enough to move on the issue though. TomStar81 (Talk) 04:02, 1 December 2014 (UTC)

I've blocked him for 6-months on copyright violation grounds - in just the brief time I've looked I've confirmed two copy/paste executions and there are several other suspicious edits to his version of the page. I'm gonna report this and see what the copyright cleanup brigade has to say, and we can move from there. TomStar81 (Talk) 04:29, 1 December 2014 (UTC)

Where do I find a transcript of the speech with the misleading label "civility" now (that the place I knew is a red link? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:26, 1 December 2014 (UTC)

Never mind, found it, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:03, 1 December 2014 (UTC)

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Ah, I see the JPG was replaced by SVG at File:Reason Magazine contest winner 2010 May 20.svg. No worries, — Cirt (talk) 02:04, 3 December 2014 (UTC)