Talk:2024 Portuguese legislative election
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- 2026 Portuguese legislative election → Next Portuguese legislative election
- Opinion polling for the 2026 Portuguese legislative election → Opinion polling for the next Portuguese legislative election
– As per WP:NCELECT, when it says that "For future elections of uncertain date, use the format "Next [country name or adjectival form] [type] election(s)"
. The election is not fixed for 2026, and one can be held earlier if a snap election is called (indeed, this was the case for the latest 2022 Portuguese legislative election). Impru20talk 20:35, 15 March 2022 (UTC)
- Comment — Although this can theoretically become a snap election according to Portuguese law and be held earlier than 2026, this is an unlikely outcome, given that the previous election has awarded the ruling socialists an absolute majority — which means (for those who don't know it) that only a schism within the party, or a dissolution of Parliament by initiative of the President, could force a snap election. I have no idea as to how this fact implies that the article's title should be treated, but I would say that we should do as has been common practice specifically for elections that take place after absolute majorities in countries which allow for snap elections, not for all elections in such countries. (In Portugal, within Wikipedia's period of existence, this has only happened one time, in 2005, followed by the 2009 election.) LongLivePortugal (talk) 18:23, 16 March 2022 (UTC)
- WP:NCELECT is very straightforward: only future elections with a fixed date (i.e. 2024 United States presidential election) should show the year in their name. When the date is uncertain and/or there is a legal chance of a snap election being held, then "Next" is used. See, for instance, what happens for Next German federal election, which is more likely to be held in 2025 than the Portuguese election is for 2026, and still, "Next" is used because a snap election is legally possible. It is likely? No, but that does not correspond to us to evaluate. We are not who to value the odds and/or chances of a snap election taking place: even if low, those mean that "2026 Portuguese legislative election" is already an inaccurate title (or, at the least, more inaccurate than "Next Portuguese legislative election") with the information we have as of currently, and in violation of WP:CRYSTAL. Impru20talk 06:02, 17 March 2022 (UTC)
- I agree with your arguments. In that case, and especially if a practical precedent has been set with other elections such as the German one, I agree and support the change. LongLivePortugal (talk) 22:15, 17 March 2022 (UTC)
- Hi there! When I created the page, I wanted to put on the title "Next Portuguese legislative elections", but somehow, I had difficulty in unlinking the 2022 election from the Next election page, and put the title 2026, in the hope that in a couple of weeks it would be easier to change the title. I approve the title change, because we're not 100% sure when the election will happen. LongLivePortugal is right to say that when governments have majorities in Portugal, it's unusual for them to colapse during their 4-year terms, the only exceptions are the AD collapse in 1982 and the PSD/CDS collapse in 2004. However, because there's also the rumour that António Costa could resign in 2024 to become President of the European Council and President Marcelo Rebelo de Sousa has, privately, stated that he would call a snap election in this event, it's one more reason why we should, again, put as title page Next Portuguese legislative elections, and also change the polling page title.Tuesp1985 (talk) 19:53, 16 March 2022 (UTC)
- I agree with you. I would just like to make a correction on your statement about the two historical exceptions you mentioned: the AD was a coalition between three parties (PSD, CDS and PPM), and PSD/CDS was also a government coalition. I was referring, of course, to an absolute majority of a single party, which evidently makes a collapse less likely than with a coalition. This has already happened thrice before this year (in 1987, 1991 and 2005) and it has never led to a collapse. I just wanted to clarify my point. LongLivePortugal (talk) 22:15, 17 March 2022 (UTC)
- Comment: I believe there's a consensus that the title page can be changed to Next Portuguese legislative election.Tuesp1985 (talk) 19:53, 25 March 2022 (UTC)