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Anti-Japanese bashing
I find some Anti-Japanese bashing. And I reported Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/IncidentArchive487#User: Caspian blue[1], but one people is accusing as hoax report. Please, check my report, and notice me if I made mistakes. I apologize for my not good English.--Bukubku (talk) 18:12, 30 October 2008 (UTC)
- If you have specific problems with some Japan-related articles that you wish editors to resolve, it would be best to quickly summarize the statements you are disputing. If you are unable to do so because of English difficulties, there are people here who can read Japanese (including some native Japanese). --C S (talk) 20:42, 30 October 2008 (UTC)
- Thank you, C S. I'm troubled with one person. He wrote as Japanese are Racist without sources, so I add " {"{fact}"}" and opposed articles with source. But he deleted " {"{fact}"}" and "<"references /">" again again again.. For example, Woo Jang-choon. He wrote Anti-Japanese articles countless times, please attention him. There is helpuful site for his Anti-Japanese contributions, See http://www3.atwiki.jp/apple-tree/ (imfromed by Caspian blue[2]). I'm a newbie, so Admins sadly trust him. Need seniors help.--Bukubku (talk) 01:36, 31 October 2008 (UTC)
- Bukubuku, you made the hoax report. That is called "harassment. And you're clearly not a newbie since you're well knowledge of Wikipeida policies. You said "Don't template me" and that is not a comment from a "real newbie". You're falsifying my edits. That is pathetic. What you're doing is "Anti-Korean bashing" and disrupt Wikipedia. You're warned for your disruptions by multiple admins. You should be very aware of the warnings.--Caspian blue 02:04, 31 October 2008 (UTC)
- WP:ANI#Checkuser's attention needed and newbie User:Bukubku's harassment --Caspian blue 02:07, 31 October 2008 (UTC)
- I didn't want to mention the person's name here. However he appeared, the person is him. Please, see my report being free from bias. It's not hoax report.--Bukubku (talk) 02:25, 31 October 2008 (UTC)
- It is a hoax report based on lies. You should be ashamed of yourself. And your link is clearly pointing at me. Don't fool people.--Caspian blue 03:04, 31 October 2008 (UTC)
- I didn't want to mention the person's name here. However he appeared, the person is him. Please, see my report being free from bias. It's not hoax report.--Bukubku (talk) 02:25, 31 October 2008 (UTC)
- Thank you, C S. I'm troubled with one person. He wrote as Japanese are Racist without sources, so I add " {"{fact}"}" and opposed articles with source. But he deleted " {"{fact}"}" and "<"references /">" again again again.. For example, Woo Jang-choon. He wrote Anti-Japanese articles countless times, please attention him. There is helpuful site for his Anti-Japanese contributions, See http://www3.atwiki.jp/apple-tree/ (imfromed by Caspian blue[2]). I'm a newbie, so Admins sadly trust him. Need seniors help.--Bukubku (talk) 01:36, 31 October 2008 (UTC)
Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/IncidentArchive487#User: Caspian blue, Please see my report being free from bias.--Bukubku (talk) 03:19, 31 October 2008 (UTC)
- WP:ANI#Checkuser's attention needed and newbie User:Bukubku's harassment along with your report. You're gaming the system.--Caspian blue 03:21, 31 October 2008 (UTC)
- Please keep your acidity off this page, Caspian blue. We don't need it here. And please, don't post some long (or short) rant about how biased I am, or how I'm following you around, or how I abusing my admin bit by telling you this, or whatever else you think up. Thank you for your cooperation. Please also see my comment below in the Woo Jang-choon section. ···日本穣? · Talk to Nihonjoe 05:07, 31 October 2008 (UTC)
- Nihonjoe, my name is tainted by the user with some agenda. This section has nothing to do with your ability as "admin tools". Since we both know of our mutual feeling to each other, we would better avoid any redundancy. I appreciate C S's meditation.--Caspian blue 06:05, 31 October 2008 (UTC)
- Please keep your acidity off this page, Caspian blue. We don't need it here. And please, don't post some long (or short) rant about how biased I am, or how I'm following you around, or how I abusing my admin bit by telling you this, or whatever else you think up. Thank you for your cooperation. Please also see my comment below in the Woo Jang-choon section. ···日本穣? · Talk to Nihonjoe 05:07, 31 October 2008 (UTC)
Per Bukubku's comment above that Caspian Blue is adding "Japanese are racist" to articles such as Woo Jang-choon, I have carefully examined all the edits made by both Caspian Blue and Bukubku to that article. I don't see any clear example of "anti-Japanese bashing" or "Japanese are racist" statements being reverted. Again, please provide specific disputed examples otherwise it just looks like a battle between Korean and Japanese point of views (POV). Unlike ANI, this talk page is meant to discuss how to improve articles, not discuss behavior by specific editors. Please keep comments restricted to how to edit articles; for example, "This edit was made and I don't agree with it because of..."
Bukubku, it seems to me you interpret any insertion of material that may make Japan look bad (even from almost one hundred years ago) as "anti-Japanese bashing" and as racism. I don't understand this viewpoint, so if I have gotten it wrong, you should point to a specific statement and explain why it is racist or bashing. For example, you seem to think it is racist to say that Woo was picked on by his classmates for being Zainichi Korean. Since undoubtedly that kind of thing happened in the past (but perhaps not in this exact situation), I don't see how it can be racism to make such a statement. It certainly doesn't seem unlikely at all that it could have happened. It is ok to tag statements with fact tags, but you shouldn't aggressively tag so many statements like that. Because then editors may start viewing you as pushing a pro-Japanese viewpoint rather than trying to improve the accuracy of the article.
I'm sure Caspian Blue has been told this many times before, but it's pointless to edit war over statements that you are not willing to back up with reliable sources. Almost the entire Woo article seems unsourced and opinionated. Just include statements that can be sourced to some scholar, interviews, memoirs, etc. --C S (talk) 05:05, 31 October 2008 (UTC)
- I agree with C S's assessment here. I see no evidence of Caspian blue inserting any "anti-Japanese" information in the article. Bukubku needs to provide evidence for this kind of accusation. That said, Caspian blue needs to tone down the defensiveness. ···日本穣? · Talk to Nihonjoe 05:11, 31 October 2008 (UTC)
- I tell you the same rationale to Bukubku. The article is only missing "inline citations" with "references" section already. The article was created in 2006 and at that time inline reference seems to be not prerequisite as I looking through 2004~ 2007 DYKs. I could perfectly provide such references as soon as the article's protection is expired. I already provided him links that back up the mistreatment that Dr.Woo suffered and Bukubku ignored the "fact".l My concern is Bukubku's behaviors who has a tendency to distort anything.--Caspian blue 05:58, 31 October 2008 (UTC)
- My main concern here is to keep the bickering to a minimum. If you have references for something specific in the article, post it to the talk page, then have an admin come review it for inclusion. I'll be happy to do it if you wish. If there are sufficient references to back up a particular claim, and the new information is worded in a NPOV way, it can be included with no problem. ···日本穣? · Talk to Nihonjoe 06:26, 31 October 2008 (UTC)
- I tell you the same rationale to Bukubku. The article is only missing "inline citations" with "references" section already. The article was created in 2006 and at that time inline reference seems to be not prerequisite as I looking through 2004~ 2007 DYKs. I could perfectly provide such references as soon as the article's protection is expired. I already provided him links that back up the mistreatment that Dr.Woo suffered and Bukubku ignored the "fact".l My concern is Bukubku's behaviors who has a tendency to distort anything.--Caspian blue 05:58, 31 October 2008 (UTC)
Caspian, you lied again. You sent message in my Talk:page and gave me your source this link. Your source looks like written by South Korean, the source writes Woo Jang-choon's father was one of the assasins and his family refuged from Korea. And he grew up as Japanese. Where is the discrimination? Don't beguile the people. Your source also imformed me that Caspian blue is the extraordinary South Korean.--Bukubku (talk) 15:56, 31 October 2008 (UTC)
- I'm warning you. If you can't stop lying about yourself and harassing me further, you will take the responsibility as the consequence. What's up with Korean sources since you're very insisting on using Korean sources (written by Japanese order) and request me to provide "links". He was "Korean" after all because he chose to be and his Japanese mother raised him so. If anyone read your above comment, everyone would notice that you're viciously lying about my provided link. Be logical and civil like other common editors.--Caspian blue 22:14, 31 October 2008 (UTC)
- Gentlemen (I'm assuming you're gentlemen -- apologies if I'm mistaken), it seems to me that you both first need a nice cup of tea and a sit down. I can't read Korean (but I do read Japanese and English), so I'm obviously of little use to you in this content dispute. But it occurs to me that you both might need a disinterested third party who reads Japanese, English, and Korean -- who is familiar with the historical literature -- and who could serve to mediate informally this discussion in such a way that no one can cry foul and claim an agenda is at work. Also, calling each other a "liar" (even if it's true) only makes the situation worse. I'm trying to think of an editor who actually fits the bill for this situation, but nobody immediately comes to mind. You should probably look for an editor you both respect and see if he or she can cross-check all the verifiable references in order to make a sensible editing decision based on the known policies. Failing that, you can always opt for formal mediation but I wouldn't recommend it at this stage because I suspect the mediators might not read all of the languages in question. Just a thought. J Readings (talk) 22:38, 31 October 2008 (UTC)
- I'm warning you. If you can't stop lying about yourself and harassing me further, you will take the responsibility as the consequence. What's up with Korean sources since you're very insisting on using Korean sources (written by Japanese order) and request me to provide "links". He was "Korean" after all because he chose to be and his Japanese mother raised him so. If anyone read your above comment, everyone would notice that you're viciously lying about my provided link. Be logical and civil like other common editors.--Caspian blue 22:14, 31 October 2008 (UTC)
I'm sorry. I bothered everyone, and made everyone discomfort. I'm sorry. Do you know the person who is the Korean reader, third nationality and third ethnic.--Bukubku (talk) 05:03, 2 November 2008 (UTC)
- Bukubku, you and Caspian Blue might want to consult with the http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:WikiProject_Korea_participants. Hopefully, there should be someone on that list whom you both respect, who reads Korean and Japanese, who is familiar with the historical literature and knows Wiipedia policy, and who is willing to serve as an informal mediator. I'm sorry that I can't be of more help myself, but that list seems like a good place to start. Regards, J Readings (talk) 08:25, 2 November 2008 (UTC)
- Thank you, J Readings and everyone.--Bukubku (talk) 14:34, 3 November 2008 (UTC)
Chrysanthemum Throne
Chrysanthemum Throne was redirected to Emperor of Japan earlier this month, because both refer to the position of monarch of Japan 70.55.86.100 (talk) 05:03, 31 October 2008 (UTC)
- I reverted. I think the page is needed. Oda Mari (talk) 05:11, 1 November 2008 (UTC)
- You might want to look at the talk page, a previous version is archived there. 70.55.86.100 (talk) 08:49, 4 November 2008 (UTC)
- This page should be merged with Emperor of Japan since that is what the term is referring to. Perhaps a small sentence could be added to Emperor of Japan to inform readers of the term. --TorsodogTalk 13:57, 4 November 2008 (UTC)
Toilets in Japan
I noticed an edit to Toilets in Japan, which removed the statement that Toto is the world's largest sanitary equipment manufacturer and modified the claim that Toto is world' largest toilet manufacturer to fourth largest. The source given is "Ceramic World Review". Upon investigating the related article Toto Ltd. and a discussion on its talk page, it seems to me that the person who originally added the info purportedly from Ceramic World Review seems to be going on memory and may in fact be confused about numbers which count more than just toilets. For example, according to the given numbers, Roca produces the most toilets with 29.5 million per year. That seems strikingly large to me. I have also added a Daily Telegraph source to both articles, which supports the claim Toto is largest toilet maker.
This information seems hard to find, so if anybody can supply better sources to support or dispute any of these statements, please take a look. --C S (talk) 18:32, 1 November 2008 (UTC)
- I'd like some help on Toilets in Japan. The anon seems unable to understand the difference between "sanitaryware" and "toilet" (see the talk page where anon insists webpages that don't say the word toilet anywhere is supporting his/her claim). The anon also is interpreting some ambiguous numerical data from the Toto talk page without apparently having access to the original source to see if his/her speculation is correct. I could revert but it's be my 3rd revert (and I don't like to get too much into reverting back and forth). So please take a look at Toilets in Japan and Toto Ltd. --C S (talk) 22:43, 1 November 2008 (UTC)
- I whacked the unverifiable reference in favor of the verifiable reference. No one has ever provided a link to the Ceramic World Review article, nor have they provided a scan of the article for review. Therefore, there is no way to verify it says what this (these?) person (people?) is (are) saying it says. I have also left a note on the anon IP's talk page. ···日本穣? · Talk to Nihonjoe 23:16, 1 November 2008 (UTC)
I reviewed LexisNexis articles for the assertions. I couldn't find any evidence supporting Toto being the world's "fourth largest" toilet manufacturer. I did, however, find several articles mentioning that Toto was either Japan's largest manufacturer, if not the world's. See below:
1. WEIRD BUT TRUE
The New York Post, April 17, 2007 Tuesday, All Editions; Pg. 27, 272 words, David Andreatta, Wires
Japan's leading toilet manufacturer is offering free repairs to ...
... caught fire. The culprit is the Toto Z model's electric ...
... part in the world's largest simultaneous hop. They bounced ...
2. Health check while you go
The Advertiser, June 28, 2005 Tuesday, FOREIGN; Pg. 27, 40 words
TOKYO:Japan's largest toilet manufacturer Toto has designed an "intelligent" ...
3. High-Tech Innovations Make It to the Bathroom
The Washington Post, June 18, 2005 Saturday, Real Estate; F10 , HOUSEWATCH Katherine Salant, 950 words, Katherine Salant
... Vegas last month. Toto Ltd., the world's largest toilet manufacturer, now offers the Neorest ...
TOTO LTD
4. Nanotech Toilets Take Off; There are plenty of large mature markets where materials scientists who understand how things behave at the nanometer scale can make an impact today.
ExtremeTech.com, May 23, 2005 Monday, NANOTECH, 1614 words, Norm Wu
... Over time, the Japanese toilet manufacturers put a lot of ...
... asp Toto, the world's largest single-brand toilet ...
TOTO USA (59%);
5. It's my potty; With slow-closing lids, men can rest assured
LANCASTER NEW ERA (LANCASTER, PA.), March 10, 2005, Thursday, MAGAZINE, 818 words, Catherine S. Molitoris
... public relations for Toto USA Inc., the world's largest toilet manufacturer. "Computer technology has found its ...
TOTO USA (58%);
6. LOO BLUES
The Australian, November 28, 1998, Pg. 11, 104 words, TODD ZAUN
ABSTRACT: Toto is the largest toilet manufacturer in Japan. The economic ...
... an impact on Toto's fortunes. In order to ...
... further deterioration of the company, Toto will release a ...
... A spokesman for Toto, Yojiro Watanabe, says that the ...
... toilets which are environmentally friendly. Toto is the manufacturer of electronic commodes and ...
Though conceivably overkill, it might be helpful to the anon IP if we added some more sources to the disputed sentences. J Readings (talk) 23:58, 1 November 2008 (UTC)
- Works for me. I think adding 2-3 of these (specifically the ones listing Toto as the "world's largest") would be a good idea. ···日本穣? · Talk to Nihonjoe 00:02, 2 November 2008 (UTC)
- OK. Thanks. I'll try adding a few when I get a chance a little later, assuming no one objects. J Readings (talk) 08:33, 2 November 2008 (UTC)
speaking of housing in Japan...
Do we have anything on the phenomenon of abandoned houses? Seems here the convention is, if you can't pay your rent, you simply move out, but no one moves in, because there is a stigma about getting a house at a cheap price because the realtor had to sell it quickly. So while there is a housing shortage here, there are tons of empty houses. Anywhere on the 'pedia? Chris (クリス • フィッチ) (talk) 01:54, 3 October 2008 (UTC)
- In the Better Late than Never category: Sorry that I don't know of an article on this. It would be an interesting phenomenon. This would be an interesting topic in Housing in Japan, and if it were to grow beyond a section, it would make a good stand-alone article on its own. Do you have any sources that could form the nucleus of, say, a solid paragraph? Fg2 (talk) 04:32, 28 October 2008 (UTC)
- The November 20, 2008 "Close Up Gendai" covered abandoned mansion. See archives at クローズアップ現代 NHK. Fg2 (talk) 10:33, 20 November 2008 (UTC)
Supreme Court of Japan Justices
Does anyone want to help me create new articles and bolster info about the Supreme Court justices? WhisperToMe (talk) 04:26, 3 November 2008 (UTC)
Images lost from Wikipedias and Commons
By mistake, about 500 image files were deleted from various Wikimedia projects, including the English and Japanese Wikipedias and Commons. This message appears on the Watchlist page on Commons: "On Friday September 5, 2008, a human error resulted in the loss of many images (most current list). Since then, the vast majority have been recovered by various means. Please see the post to the commons-l mailing list for technical details. Please do not request deletion of any of the affected images. If you have a copy of these images, please upload them at the image's current page. You may be able to find the images on web.archive.org, Google cache or similar sources. Further inquiries may be directed to commons-l."
If you discover that an article has a red link to an image file, this may be the cause. Fg2 (talk) 22:51, 3 November 2008 (UTC)
- I guess they didn't bother having backups? Backups are cheap and fairly simple to set up. ···日本穣? · Talk to Nihonjoe 04:00, 4 November 2008 (UTC)
Japanese railway station articles without geographical coordinates
I've used CatScan to generate a list of railway stations in Japan lacking geographical coordinates.
The articles are all marked with {{coord missing}} tags, which need to be replaced with {{coord}} tags that contain the location's latitude/longitude coordinates; or you might be able to add coordinates to an existing infobox, where appropriate. You can find out how to do this, and how to format {{coord}} tags, at the Wikipedia:Geocoding how-to for WikiProject members. -- The Anome (talk) 13:19, 4 November 2008 (UTC)
- Thanks. I've copied this to Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Trains in Japan for visibility there too. Fg2 (talk) 20:30, 4 November 2008 (UTC)
Request Kanji translation
Request Kanji added to Japanese template in an article I just started on Kuninori Marumo, an Imperial Japanese Navy admiral. Thank you. Cla68 (talk) 03:38, 6 November 2008 (UTC)
- Added. Oda Mari (talk) 04:35, 6 November 2008 (UTC)
- Thank you. Cla68 (talk) 06:34, 6 November 2008 (UTC)
Japanese Given Names
Category:Japanese given names is quite impressive, but doesn't that sort of thing really belong more on Wiktionary than Wikipedia? It seems a bit out of place. --L33tminion (talk) 04:08, 7 November 2008 (UTC)
- It's perfectly in place on Wikipedia as there are many given names with articles, separated by culture/language. Just follow the category parent trail. ···日本穣? · Talk to Nihonjoe 00:52, 14 November 2008 (UTC)
- Plus they act as disambiguations for people who share the same given names. WhisperToMe (talk) 18:14, 19 November 2008 (UTC)
Umm, can somebody who speaks English and knows the topic give this a good cleanup? Thanks, Chris (クリス • フィッチ) (talk) 05:49, 7 November 2008 (UTC)
- I'll go through it more closely later in the weekend, but on a quick glance, it looks just fine. No? LordAmeth (talk) 11:46, 7 November 2008 (UTC)
"Asoism"
Bush is quite well-known internationally for his linguistic mistakes. These are colloquially known as Bushism. In Japan, the linguistic competence of Prime Minister Aso is making a lot of news:
- Mainichi: 麻生首相:漢字は苦手? 頻繁に読み間違い
- Yomiuri: みぞうゆう?ふしゅう??…麻生さんは漢字苦手?
- Nikkei: 「はんざつ」「みぞゆう」 首相、誤読連発
- Asahi: 「みぞうゆう」の災害? 首相、あいさつで読み間違い
I think that this should be mentioned in his article, but I am not confident in expressing in English. The Japanese wiki mentions this, but the writing as well as citations are quite minimal, so it is probably not good model. May I get some help? 124.214.131.55 (talk) 22:41, 13 November 2008 (UTC)
- Done, along with more text on his family's mine and forced POW labor controversy [3]. Cla68 (talk) 23:29, 13 November 2008 (UTC)
Help identifying stadium
Image:Kawasaki Frontale supporters oendan 20071007.jpg says it's a picture of "Mey-Yung Stadium Tokyo". I've never heard of this stadium, and I can't find anything about this stadium, so I have to assume it's either a horrible misspelling of some sort, or the name of the stadium is completely fabricated. Anyone know what the real name of the stadium is? ···日本穣? · Talk to Nihonjoe 06:03, 14 November 2008 (UTC)
- I dug a little, and I think it is Olympic Stadium (Tokyo). --TorsodogTalk 06:34, 14 November 2008 (UTC)
- Category:Football venues in Japan and Category:Sports venues in Tokyo might have some more hints. My guess was based only on the name, not the appearance. Fg2 (talk) 06:36, 14 November 2008 (UTC)
- I've been to Frontale's Todoroki stadium and that picture definitely isn't of that place. I believe the picture is of, as Torsodog states, Olympic stadium. If you look at this photo [4] it shows the blue seats on the end zone merging into the orange seats along the sidelines, just like in the photo in question. Cla68 (talk) 06:49, 14 November 2008 (UTC)
- (Edit conflict) If the linked map is correct, it is Olympic Stadium. "Mey-Yung" might be a Chinese reading of Meiji? There once was ja:明治神宮外苑競技場 on the site. And there is ja:明治公園 nearby. Oda Mari (talk) 06:52, 14 November 2008 (UTC)
- I've been to Frontale's Todoroki stadium and that picture definitely isn't of that place. I believe the picture is of, as Torsodog states, Olympic stadium. If you look at this photo [4] it shows the blue seats on the end zone merging into the orange seats along the sidelines, just like in the photo in question. Cla68 (talk) 06:49, 14 November 2008 (UTC)
- Category:Football venues in Japan and Category:Sports venues in Tokyo might have some more hints. My guess was based only on the name, not the appearance. Fg2 (talk) 06:36, 14 November 2008 (UTC)
- Agree with Oda Mari: the coordinates in the image page match Olympic Stadium, and they do soccer, so I guess Torsodog's right. Fg2 (talk) 07:01, 14 November 2008 (UTC)
- Thanks to everyone for their help. I've updated the image description. ···日本穣? · Talk to Nihonjoe 23:25, 15 November 2008 (UTC)
- Additional info. Kawasaki Frontale did have a game with Yokohama FC on October 7, 2007 at Olympic Stadium. [5] Oda Mari (talk) 04:58, 16 November 2008 (UTC)
Japanese-speaking user needed to verify content
Can a user (particulaly an admin) with knowledge of the Japanese language look over Stereopony and Hitohira no Hanabira for verification and notability. Regards, Deacon of Pndapetzim (Talk) 06:27, 15 November 2008 (UTC)
- They look ok. Oricon and TV Tokyo verify them. Song is presently #25 on the weekly singles chart, and it's the theme of the television show. (I'm not an administrator.) Fg2 (talk) 09:06, 15 November 2008 (UTC)
Would you guys take a look here? I don't want an edit war, but I need fresh pairs of eyes on this. Thanks, Chris (クリス • フィッチ) (talk) 16:25, 17 November 2008 (UTC)
- Opening the article on Japanese poetry with mention of the Chinese poetry's peak seems a bit odd to me... And the phrasing about "taking centuries for the Japanese to digest Chinese poetry" doesn't really go down well with me, either. I'm no expert, both of those statements may be true, but I'm sure there's a more neutral way of putting it. The phrasing right now seems to simply imply the oh-so-well-known "we did it first, and only through our divine grace did we decide to teach the Japanese how to do it as well" superiority complex... TomorrowTime (talk) 17:25, 17 November 2008 (UTC)
Reading of マリオの大冒険 ?
What is the reading of マリオの大冒険 ? - I understand it is the Japanese title for Super Mario Adventures - but I do not know how it is read. WhisperToMe (talk) 18:13, 19 November 2008 (UTC)
- Unless there's something funny going on, it ought to be Mario no daibōken, literally translating to "Mario's Grand Adventure" or "Mario's Big Adventure" or something like that. Surprisingly, ja:マリオの大冒険 seems to be a redlink. LordAmeth (talk) 19:16, 19 November 2008 (UTC)
- Apparently on JA an article about it simply doesn't exist. WhisperToMe (talk) 21:04, 19 November 2008 (UTC)
- I think the Japanese title is ja:SUPER MARIO ADVENTURES マリオの大冒険... わwaらraうu Smile! 02:40, 23 November 2008 (UTC)
- Nope, never mind.
- According to the National Diet Library, the title is マリオの大冒険. There's no article about the book on ja Wiki. Oda Mari (talk) 04:48, 23 November 2008 (UTC)
- What does the Diet have to do with Mario??? わwaらraうu Smile! 05:24, 23 November 2008 (UTC)
- See National Diet Library#Main Collection. Oda Mari (talk) 05:28, 23 November 2008 (UTC)
- As for the title, see these pages too. [6] and [7]. Oda Mari (talk) 05:33, 23 November 2008 (UTC)
- What does the Diet have to do with Mario??? わwaらraうu Smile! 05:24, 23 November 2008 (UTC)
- According to the National Diet Library, the title is マリオの大冒険. There's no article about the book on ja Wiki. Oda Mari (talk) 04:48, 23 November 2008 (UTC)
- Nope, never mind.
- I think the Japanese title is ja:SUPER MARIO ADVENTURES マリオの大冒険... わwaらraうu Smile! 02:40, 23 November 2008 (UTC)
- Apparently on JA an article about it simply doesn't exist. WhisperToMe (talk) 21:04, 19 November 2008 (UTC)
- Unless there's something funny going on, it ought to be Mario no daibōken, literally translating to "Mario's Grand Adventure" or "Mario's Big Adventure" or something like that. Surprisingly, ja:マリオの大冒険 seems to be a redlink. LordAmeth (talk) 19:16, 19 November 2008 (UTC)
Shōji and Fusuma
The articles on shōji and fusuma, as they stand now, offer some contradictory and confusing information about what exactly each term means. I cleaned up both articles in terms of italicizing foreign words (shōji and fusuma are not English words; they have English equivalents, being called "sliding doors" or "paper sliding doors" or the like) and other small stylistic fixes, but as for content, I think some work still needs to be done.
Does shōji only refer to the latticed white paper sliding doors, which typically have rectangular handholds in the wood? Does fusuma only refer to the solid, opaque sliding doors which are often painted gold, at least in traditional historic sites like castles, and which typically have a circular handhold?
Are the terms fully interchangeable (I think not)? Does one include the other, i.e. is fusuma a type of shōji or shōji a type of fusuma? I'm pretty sure they're separate things...
Can someone with the information or expertise, and the inclination, please fix up these articles? Yoroshiku. LordAmeth (talk) 22:02, 19 November 2008 (UTC)
- Would these be best combined? Fg2 (talk) 23:34, 19 November 2008 (UTC)
- I don't know. Though, if combined, I don't like any of the potential article titles which could come up, such as shōji and fusuma or Japanese sliding doors. I do get the impression that they are separate concepts.. I just need confirmation, and someone who wants to take the bother to go clean up the two articles and make it clear what each word means and how they do not overlap. LordAmeth (talk) 00:50, 20 November 2008 (UTC)
- They are different. Shoji is used for lighting as windows, whereas fusuma is used as partition. See the images used in ja:障子. Oda Mari (talk) 15:34, 20 November 2008 (UTC)
- I've rewritten Shōji. Please see if you like the result. This difference shows the changes. Fg2 (talk) 05:39, 23 November 2008 (UTC)
- Excellent. A solid foundation for future expansion. LordAmeth (talk) 15:39, 23 November 2008 (UTC)
- I've rewritten Shōji. Please see if you like the result. This difference shows the changes. Fg2 (talk) 05:39, 23 November 2008 (UTC)
Machiya
I have just completed a considerable expansion and improvement of the article on machiya. I have also created a Wikimedia Commons category for it, and populated the category with a few pictures I found on Commons and a few I uploaded myself. As it would seem that the vast majority of images which might belong in this category are currently categorized only by the place they were taken (for example, commons:Image:Fabric shop in Nara.jpg was only categorized under Noren and Naramachi when I found it, not under "Architecture of Japan" or "Storefronts of Japan" or anything like that), it's not an easy process to locate and re-categorize all the relevant pictures.
Keep your eyes out, please. If you notice something that looks like it belongs to that category, add it. Thank you. LordAmeth (talk) 00:54, 20 November 2008 (UTC)
Need some help!
This article needs help, but I can't do it all on my own. わwaらraうu Smile! 00:31, 23 November 2008 (UTC)
- What sort of help exactly does the article need? TomorrowTime (talk) 17:59, 23 November 2008 (UTC)
- In the filmography section. It has external links, not at the same level as MoS-JP, etc. わwaらraうu Smile! 02:31, 25 November 2008 (UTC)
Assessment question
I was just wondering how to get an article assessed. I've done most of the work on the battle of Imizu and I think it is more than a stub, but don't get me wrong, I'm not asking for attention, I'm just curious where it falls on the scale so I can get a feel for how wikipedia works. Thanks! --BradTraylor (talk) 03:05, 24 November 2008 (UTC)
- There you go. The assessment categories are pretty subjective. ... And, apparently they've added C-class in the last few months since I was last involved in assessment. But if you look at the grading scheme, and just look at some different articles and how they're assessed, you can start to get a feel for it. LordAmeth (talk) 01:18, 25 November 2008 (UTC)
- Thanks, I'll take a look at that page. So, can anyone assess an article, or only admins? --BradTraylor (talk) 02:37, 25 November 2008 (UTC)
- Another good place is WikiProject Japan's assessment project page. Go to Wikipedia:WikiProject Japan, and you'll find a link to the assessment page in the box under the right side (look under Project pages). Also, being an administrator is not a requirement for assessing articles. Fg2 (talk) 05:09, 25 November 2008 (UTC)
Government of Japan
The article Government of Japan had this recent edit by an IP editor who had vandalized other articles on the same day. It changed a statement about the Prime Minister from "He must be a member of either house of the Diet and a civilian." to "He must be a member of either house of the Diet or a civilian." (That is, "and" to "or.") The Japanese Wikipedia article 日本国憲法第67条, which has the English text of the Constitution article, doesn't mention civilian status. Does a different article or law apply?
- See this: Japanese Constitution. Per Article 66 of the constitution, he must be a civilian. Per Article 67, he must be designated from among the members of the diet. It should be "and".-Jefu (talk) 06:17, 26 November 2008 (UTC)
Separately, the article opens with "Japan no longer officially has the traditional federal system, and its 47 prefectures, . . ." Did Japan previously have a federal system? Is this an appropriate opening sentence for the article? Fg2 (talk) 01:57, 25 November 2008 (UTC)
Traditional "Feudal" system, perhaps? --BradTraylor (talk) 02:53, 25 November 2008 (UTC)
- Interesting question. To the extent that the old system can be thought of as having been made up of separate political entities, each headed by a Daimyo, and a separate central governing structure, the bakufu (and ostensibly all unified under the emperor), I guess one could argue that it was a federal system. But because of the potential confusion, I agree that traditional feudal system would be better.-Jefu (talk) 06:12, 26 November 2008 (UTC)
Japanese translation help
I need these two interviews translated [8] [9] for the article F-Zero: Maximum Velocity Thanks, « ₣M₣ » 03:50, 27 November 2008 (UTC)
Hochi Film Award
I imported the Winner list from the Japanese Article ja:報知映画賞 into the English Article Hochi Film Award. There are many red links and it is very confusing. I also tried to use the English international movie titles where available, even when I'd like to see the Japanese original title. Please tell me what I need to change, or feel free to edit yourself. --R0pe-196 (talk) 09:43, 30 November 2008 (UTC)