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Extended discussion regarding xenocidic's neutral
- It is my policy
to opposenot to support people who don't read the self-nom instructions properly (because it may indicate inattention to detail) but because of his other contributions, I'llstay neutral for nowlikely revisit this !vote after I have time to examine them. xenocidic (talk) 12:28, 12 June 2008 (UTC)- Gak! They read like stereo instructions. </shudder> ;} Dlohcierekim 12:46, 12 June 2008 (UTC)
- As do many of our policies and guidelines =). xenocidic (talk) 12:48, 12 June 2008 (UTC)
- At the risk of sounding stupid: what makes you think he didn't read those instructions? dorftrottel (talk) 13:10, 12 June 2008 (UTC)
- I think there was a glitch in following them, ergo the conclusion may not correctly follow policies as well. However, IMHO, has demonstrated understanding of admin related polices, W.Z.B.W.. Dlohcierekim 13:24, 12 June 2008 (UTC)
- Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/nominate#To nominate yourself, step 6, the part in bold. xenocidic (talk) 13:29, 12 June 2008 (UTC)
- The very first bolded word consists of just this: "Stop." If people followed the instructions as literally as you want, no one could ever nominate themselves! Those instructions are not very well written and seem more subject to the whims of RFA regulars than they are any genuine attempt to make RFA a workable process for self-noms. What should matter is whether he conveyed his nomination in a way we can understand, which he did. We are not a bureaucracy... people should not be judged based on how well they fill out forms, that kind of stuff is for the DMV, not Wikipedia. --Rividian (talk) 13:40, 12 June 2008 (UTC)
- Attention to detail is a quality I value in an admin. As it stands now, people might not be sure if he's accepted the nomination! A word of related advice, I'd suggest checking out User:Balloonman/How to pass an RfA#Things that kill RfAs, in particular #3. This is a neutral remember, and as I said above "for now". When I have time to properly review the candidates contributions, I may well switch to support. (Leaning that way after looking at the deleted contribs). xenocidic (talk) 13:48, 12 June 2008 (UTC)
- Maybe he just decided to ignore that particular rule. (why must the acceptance line be removed anyway? sounds like the archetypal arbitrary demand for a shrubbery) dorftrottel (talk) 14:43, 12 June 2008 (UTC)
- If the candidate removes the line with a herring, I would be more inclined to support (motion to move or hide this extended section). xenocidic (talk) 14:50, 12 June 2008 (UTC)
- I am not even supporting this candidate, you'll notice... I really don't care if it passes, I'm just objecting to a silly and bureaucratic attitude which you seem to have conveniently waited until barely a week after your own RFA to display. "people might not be sure if he's accepted the nomination"... that's sheer bureaucratic speech. This seems like a good rule to ignore... it seems you're asking him to follow it for the sake of following it, which is exactly the sort of attitude Jimbo created WP:IAR to whack with the cluebat. --Rividian (talk) 14:52, 12 June 2008 (UTC)
- I
opposedleft neutrals for this reason before my RFA as well [1] [2]. Attention to detail is a quality I value in an admin. P.S. The "people might not know if he's accepted" was a bit of a joke. xenocidic (talk) 15:01, 12 June 2008 (UTC)- Attention to pointless detail is more like it. The only reason you can come up with for following that rule, you just admitted, is "a bit of a joke". --Rividian (talk) 15:08, 12 June 2008 (UTC)
- For the third time, attention to detail is a quality I value in an admin. Properly reading and following the self-nom instructions is an indication of such a quality. Out of respect for the candidate, you can visit my talk page if you wish to discuss this further. xenocidic (talk) 15:20, 12 June 2008 (UTC)
- But it's a pointless detail, an instruction to be followed only for the sake of following it. I applaud anyone who ignores such a rule. --Rividian (talk) 15:22, 12 June 2008 (UTC)
- But attention to detail is a quality he values in an admin. Keepscases (talk) 15:27, 12 June 2008 (UTC)
- Then I guess he should oppose this RFA. --Rividian (talk) 15:30, 12 June 2008 (UTC)
- And you should support it. Honestly - it's a neutral - you've made your feelings about my voting behaviour known - out of respect for the candidate, you can visit my talk page if you wish to discuss this further. Some disinterested party - please hide this long section unrelated to the candidate. xenocidic (talk) 15:36, 12 June 2008 (UTC)
- Why do you keep replying to tell me to stop replying here? --Rividian (talk) 15:48, 12 June 2008 (UTC)
- Probably because, out of respect for the candidate, it might be best if everyone stops replying here. Keepscases (talk) 16:01, 12 June 2008 (UTC)
- Why do you keep replying to tell me to stop replying here? --Rividian (talk) 15:48, 12 June 2008 (UTC)
- And you should support it. Honestly - it's a neutral - you've made your feelings about my voting behaviour known - out of respect for the candidate, you can visit my talk page if you wish to discuss this further. Some disinterested party - please hide this long section unrelated to the candidate. xenocidic (talk) 15:36, 12 June 2008 (UTC)
- Then I guess he should oppose this RFA. --Rividian (talk) 15:30, 12 June 2008 (UTC)
- But attention to detail is a quality he values in an admin. Keepscases (talk) 15:27, 12 June 2008 (UTC)
- But it's a pointless detail, an instruction to be followed only for the sake of following it. I applaud anyone who ignores such a rule. --Rividian (talk) 15:22, 12 June 2008 (UTC)
- For the third time, attention to detail is a quality I value in an admin. Properly reading and following the self-nom instructions is an indication of such a quality. Out of respect for the candidate, you can visit my talk page if you wish to discuss this further. xenocidic (talk) 15:20, 12 June 2008 (UTC)
- Attention to pointless detail is more like it. The only reason you can come up with for following that rule, you just admitted, is "a bit of a joke". --Rividian (talk) 15:08, 12 June 2008 (UTC)
- I
- Maybe he just decided to ignore that particular rule. (why must the acceptance line be removed anyway? sounds like the archetypal arbitrary demand for a shrubbery) dorftrottel (talk) 14:43, 12 June 2008 (UTC)
- Attention to detail is a quality I value in an admin. As it stands now, people might not be sure if he's accepted the nomination! A word of related advice, I'd suggest checking out User:Balloonman/How to pass an RfA#Things that kill RfAs, in particular #3. This is a neutral remember, and as I said above "for now". When I have time to properly review the candidates contributions, I may well switch to support. (Leaning that way after looking at the deleted contribs). xenocidic (talk) 13:48, 12 June 2008 (UTC)
- The very first bolded word consists of just this: "Stop." If people followed the instructions as literally as you want, no one could ever nominate themselves! Those instructions are not very well written and seem more subject to the whims of RFA regulars than they are any genuine attempt to make RFA a workable process for self-noms. What should matter is whether he conveyed his nomination in a way we can understand, which he did. We are not a bureaucracy... people should not be judged based on how well they fill out forms, that kind of stuff is for the DMV, not Wikipedia. --Rividian (talk) 13:40, 12 June 2008 (UTC)
- Slaps everyone (but me and Avruch, of course) with a large trout while LOL. Dlohcierekim 16:52, 12 June 2008 (UTC)
- Thanks Avruch. xenocidic (talk) 16:59, 12 June 2008 (UTC)
- Gak! They read like stereo instructions. </shudder> ;} Dlohcierekim 12:46, 12 June 2008 (UTC)