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Didem (belly dancer)

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Fails wp:np, sources are scarce, and I believe it should be deleted. فيصل (talk) 08:23, 20 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: People, Dance, Fashion, Romania, and Turkey. فيصل (talk) 08:23, 20 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Women-related deletion discussions. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 09:42, 20 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep: Seems to have been talked about [1] [2] and has influenced others [3] Oaktree b (talk) 14:56, 20 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hiten Dharpure

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Dharpure has achieved a couple of obscure records recognized by the "India Book of Records" and the "Worldwide Book of Records", neither publication notable enough to have their own Wikipedia articles. Given the number of newspaper clippings posted by the article's author at Commons (now mostly nominated for deletion as copyright violations), it is likely that this is an autobiography. WikiDan61^ChatMe!_ReadMe!! 11:52, 17 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: People and India. WikiDan61^ChatMe!_ReadMe!! 11:52, 17 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete This is exactly the sort of non-notable nonsense that should be removed. Clearly written by the subject themselves or on their behalf. Shrug02 (talk) 18:00, 17 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, it seems to be written by themselves or on their behalf but this what I found on Instagram of Sakal News, with likes of 7,647 people. [4] WikiDan404 (talk) 13:07, 18 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Respected Editor, I was known of that person and I contacted him to collect the Information and made the new Article. If it seems to be Written by himself so, that's wrong. But if it seems like that so no problem. I was also known of him by Social Media Only. The Editor committee (talk) 17:06, 18 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: Vanity spam, creating dancing robots is not notable here. Sources about various records that are not notable. Oaktree b (talk) 16:19, 17 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I think this should article should exists as what I had read and Checked the Article and found the work done by him at such less age. [5][6] WikiDan404 (talk) 13:14, 18 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Respected Editor, I found this video of his Robots Dancing Altogether [7] and making robot at this age made me to make an Article for him. If it doesn't agree to policies so no problem. The Editor committee (talk) 18:24, 18 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Comment: And the image is tagged as a copyvio, further red flags. Oaktree b (talk) 16:20, 17 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. No notability and blatantly COI. Procyon117 (talk) 17:53, 17 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I found this on Instagram of Sakal News, liked by 7,647 people. [8] WikiDan404 (talk) 13:05, 18 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Not only is Instagram an unreliable source, but the amount of people who liked it is completely meaningless here. Procyon117 (talk) 15:45, 18 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Respected Editor, That's Right. Actually I found this in his account on Facebook that he was felicitated twice by Hon'ble Union Minister of Road and Transport, Nitin Gadkari for his achievement that why I have added that.[9][10] The Editor committee (talk) 18:05, 18 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Dance, Technology, and Maharashtra. WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 19:12, 17 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. Fails notability. RangersRus (talk) 22:16, 17 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
https://www.instagram.com/p/C8ip_V2hrHq/?igsh=Z2lwOWJ5ODJhZGdk WikiDan404 (talk) 13:16, 18 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Respected Editor, I found this that he was covered by Media and felicitated twice by Hon'ble Union Minister of Road and Transport, Nitin Gadkari that's why I have added an New Article by looking his work with age. [11][12][13][14][15][16] The Editor committee (talk) 18:33, 18 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Not to Delete. I think that it should not be deleted as it was covered by Newspapers. --Wikitopeople (talk) 12:43, 18 July 2024 (UTC)— Wikitopeople (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic. [reply]
Actually it seems to written by themselves or on behalf on someone but from my side I found this [17] which made myself to support this Article. WikiDan404 (talk) 13:32, 18 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Respected Editor, It can also be seen at different platforms. [18][19][20] The Editor committee (talk) 18:35, 18 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Do not Delete. He gained huge popularity as I found that it was published on Instagram of Sakal News, which is liked by 7,647 people. Link to check the Likes on Instagram --WikiDan404 (talk) 12:59, 18 July 2024 (UTC)— WikiDan404 (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic. [reply]
Delete One Event applies. Also Not notable and instagram is not a reliable source and it doesn't matter how many likes they have.--VViking_TalkEdits 13:28, 18 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
He was felicitated twice by Hon'ble Union Minister of Road and Transport, Nitin Gadkari.[21] [22] as mentioned by @The Editor committee. WikiDan404 (talk) 18:11, 18 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Respected Editor, I have made this Article on basis of Media Coverage and his twice felicitations done by Hon'ble Union Minister of Road and Transport, Nitin Gadkari.[23][24] The Editor committee (talk) 18:11, 18 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

* Note to Closer. WikiDan404 account created 3 hours ago and Wikitopeople account created 22 hours ago have made no contribution to any other AFD. RangersRus (talk) 15:18, 18 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete: Fails WP:GNG. Youknow? (talk) 15:29, 18 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Respected Editor, The evidences can be checked and proofed as that make me to write the Article. [25][26][27][28][29][30][31] The Editor committee (talk) 18:40, 18 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Respected Editor @WikiDan61, Thanks for your review. I respect and follow the Wikipedia Rules and Policies, if it seems to be not eligible, so no problem. It's my pleasure that you worked for it. The Editor committee (talk) 17:09, 18 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Not to be deleted. I think it should not be deleted. --The Editor committee (talk) 18:14, 18 July 2024 (UTC)— Note to closing admin: The Editor committee (talk • contribs) is the creator of the page that is the subject of this AfD. [reply]
should not be deleted. The things provided above gives an clear information regarding person. --Unknewed (talk) 18:48, 18 July 2024 (UTC)— Unknewed (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic. [reply]
@RangersRus I am new for Contributions of Information on Wikipedia and this is my first Reply in Discussion as it is seen first and at top. Unknewed (talk) 20:40, 18 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

* Note to Closer. Unknewed another new account created few hours ago and have made no contribution to any other AFD. RangersRus (talk) 19:30, 18 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete: Fails GNG. 𝐋𝐨𝐫𝐝𝐕𝐨𝐥𝐝𝐞𝐦𝐨𝐫𝐭𝟕𝟐𝟖🧙‍♂️^{Let's Talk !} 11:37, 19 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep and do not delete It should not be deleted as everything is true with no false Information as given with Citations and has notability. Wikicontriiiiibute (talk) 12:02, 19 July 2024 (UTC)— Wikicontriiiiibute (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic. [reply]

Delete: Ignoring the sockpuppet investigation and the potential COI. I agree that the sourcing isn't reliable. I think WP: BLP1E applies here as well -- the achievements of the subject have not received coverage that is lasting or significant. Instagram and Facebook are not reliable sources, full stop. HyperAccelerated (talk) 15:34, 19 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Per others, I can't find significant coverage or enough to meet WP:GNG. Mdann52 (talk) 06:39, 20 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Niharika Lyra Dutt

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Notability issue Thewikizoomer (talk) 08:05, 11 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Actors and filmmakers, Women, Dance, Television, Theatre, and Delhi. WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 10:55, 11 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Strong Keep: I do not really see any notability issues here. The subject person has officially credited lead roles in TV series like Paatal Lok[32], Choona[33], and an upcoming series Call Me Bae[34], as well as supporting roles in projects like Music Teacher[35] and Sutliyan[36], which clearly fulfills the NACTOR#1. Besides, The Hindustan Times interview, as well as sources from Times of India, Indian Express, and Yahoo! News that are currently cited in the article have also clearly demonstrated that the subject person has fulfilled GNG. It does not even require a BEFORE, as the information presented in the article is already sufficient to show that the subject person has fulfilled two notability guidelines. —Prince of Erebor（The Book of Mazarbul） 11:38, 11 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Strong delete, interviews do not help establish notability. Also, Times of India is not suitable for a biography. — 48 JCL 16:46, 11 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

NACTOR has clearly been fulfilled but not addressed. And yes, a single interview source itself does not establish notability. But if there are multiple interviews covering a breadth of different topics, this can count towards notability per WP:IV. I am not sure about Times of India, but even if it is excluded, there are still multiple interviews from The Hindustan Times, The Indian Express, or Mid-Day[37], which have fulfilled this requirement imo. Still an obvious keep to me. —Prince of Erebor（The Book of Mazarbul） 19:24, 11 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment— I agree wholeheartedly with Prince of Erebor. These are absolutely reliable sources. She is a main cast member in the television show mentioned in the article.
9t5 (talk) 04:50, 14 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Comment -- She is 'way down the cast list (not in the top 6 actors listed) in either Paatal Lok or Choona, or in the streaming/web projects, so not an obviously notable career on the face of it. I am not sure whether any of the articles cited are really WP:RSs. -- Ssilvers (talk) 17:28, 11 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The sources I provided show that she is credited as main cast, and they are from The Indian Express, The Hindu, and Variety. I do not believe these three sources have any concerns regarding their reliability. —Prince of Erebor（The Book of Mazarbul） 19:24, 11 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Comment — The subject is clearly a member of the main cast. If you want to argue that a recurring or guest appearance isn’t notable, that’s understandable. However, this actress is a main cast member. The article needs strengthening not deletion.

9t5 (talk) 23:00, 13 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Ssilvers, I've done a source assessment. — 48 JCL 23:37, 13 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

~~Keep~~ Strong Keep- I ~~disagree~~ strongly disagree with 48JCL. If someone is interviewed by the New York Times, that would make a person mighty notable. You cannot say “interviews don’t prove notability” when that is ~~plainly~~ outrageously untrue.

9t5 (talk) 22:36, 13 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Comment, @9t5, they were not interviewed by the New York Times.
[1] -- From WP:TOI: "The Times of India is considered to have a reliability between no consensus and generally unreliable. It has a bias in favor of the Indian government and is known to accept payments from persons and entities in exchange for positive coverage." Seeing how promotional the article is, I think it is fair to say that this does not help establish notability.
[2] -- From WP:IV#Independence: "Alice Expert talks about herself, her actions, or her ideas: non-independent source." This is basically what the Hindustan Times article discusses. It is fine for a WP:BLP (I think) but It does not establish notability.
[3] -- Another interview.
[4] -- IMDb, not reliable. Per WP:IMDb
[5] -- Another interview.
[6] -- Another interview.
[7] -- Passing mention.
[8] -- Passing mention. — 48 JCL 23:35, 13 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Comment— so you’re saying if it were the NYT then interviews can count? You wrote, and I quote, “interviews do not help establish notability.” It seems that you made a wildly incorrect assertion as justification for your delete vote. Have you done the proper research into the Indian outlet to determine that it is not reliable?

9t5 (talk) 04:46, 14 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

48JCL Then tag the article with {{verify}}? This is a ridiculous use of AfD. 9t5 (talk) 04:57, 14 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I still do not see any address on NACTOR. The subject person has at least three officially credited main roles. GNG does not override SNG. They are companion guidelines, and fulfilling either one is already sufficient in the first place.

I am also unclear on the purpose of your source analysis. I have already analysed them when I cast my !vote and explained why I believe the interviews can serve as evidence of notability per WP:IV. Besides, you have misidentified sources 7 and 8. They are clearly proving the subject person's involvement in certain projects, and are being used to flesh out the article, not to demonstrate SIGCOV on the subject person, just like the five sources I provided in this discussion. I believe I have made a strong case for why this is an obvious keep, and I have not seen any rebuttals directed to my arguments at all, despite the various comments. (Probably because it is inarguable that the subject person has significant roles, given their numerous credited main parts.) —Prince of Erebor（The Book of Mazarbul） 05:21, 14 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

And I think 9t5 was raising a hypothetical question, asking what if someone has been interviewed by a reputable source, instead of claiming that the subject person has been interviewed by the NYT. I do not fully agree with this, given that interviews are generally regarded as PS and do not necessarily count towards notability on their own. However, if a person has been interviewed by multiple reputable media outlets like NYT+WSJ+WaPo, this could serve as evidence of notability, and I think this makes sense. You may go ahead and argue that WP:IV is an essay or whatnot, but I doubt that would be a strong and well-reasoned position. —Prince of Erebor（The Book of Mazarbul） 05:39, 14 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Prince of Erebor I simply interpret policies a lot more leniently than 48JCL, and am allowed to do so as per WP:5P5. I have been involved in debate with 48JCL before. We are a pretty equal match. Just two different points of view. I respect their dedication to the project. 9t5 (talk) 06:47, 14 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
9t5 and Prince of Erebor, I completely agree that WP:IV makes sense. However, from WP:IV: but a person does not pass GNG if interviews are the only kind of sourcing they have. Also, Prince of Erebor, those sources you provided are passing mentions and do not count towards notability. — 48 JCL 11:56, 14 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@48JCL: I have already mentioned three times in this discussion - the sources I provided are to prove that the subject person has officially credited main/supporting roles in the respective projects, instead of providing SIGCOV about the person. The five roles I have listed already showed that the subject person has fulfilled NACTOR#1, and a Keep is the only reasonable conclusion. The interviews are only additional evidence of notability, since I have noticed many Wikipedians often bring up "coverage" in cases where the subject person has already fulfilled SNG, and this part is to satisfy their concerns. I still do not see any rebuttals on why the subject person fails NACTOR in your multiple replies, and the fact that you now agree the interviews can count towards notability even makes this case not borderline, but a strong Keep. Are you sure you do not want to change your stance, given that your arguments seem to be quite affirmative to a keep rather than a delete? —Prince of Erebor（The Book of Mazarbul） 12:23, 14 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, The Herald (Benison) (talk) 09:42, 18 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep It not be deleted. Wikicontriiiiibute (talk) 11:51, 19 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]