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Hi i got ur reply that

@Sanjay upadhyaye: First, I've already sent you an invitation to the Wikipedia Adventure; I suggest you improve your technical editing skills. Second, your article seems to have reliable sources but I'm concerned about the notability conferred by National School of Drama awards that aren't notable themselves. Chris Troutman (talk) 23:36, 26 April 2014 (UTC)

But i would like to tell u that... u can check his interviews in the english newspaper.. on the given link below... this is the better reference... and he is also director of mp school of drama bhopal.. u can also check on mp goverment cultural site.. plz he is very know theatre personality in india, his information must be there on wikipedia...

http://www.hindu.com/fr/2010/05/14/stories/2010051450450300.htm

http://www.thehindu.com/features/friday-review/theatre/music-matters/article84421.ece

http://www.thehindu.com/features/friday-review/theatre/turning-the-spotlight/article428950.ece

http://www.thehindu.com/todays-paper/tp-features/tp-metroplus/a-much-needed-push/article5007780.ece

http://www.tribuneindia.com/2004/20040915/cth2.htm

http://sangeetsudha.net/content/%E0%A4%AD%E0%A4%BF%E0%A4%96%E0%A4%BE%E0%A4%B0%E0%A5%80-%E0%A4%A0%E0%A4%BE%E0%A4%95%E0%A5%81%E0%A4%B0

http://mohallalive.com/2011/01/09/reportaz-from-raigarh-by-hrishikesh-sulabh/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sanjay upadhyaye (talkcontribs) 03:32, 29 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Good afternoon,

I have just added three different sources from an online newspaper (Diario de Avila) and two specialized local spanish websites which have no relationship with the Madrid Lions Rugby club or any of its members. The three articles talk about different matches at differents locations and dates... Sincerely, we do not know what or where attach these articles in order to be representative of independent reliable sources.

Although Spain has a very strong mass of supporters, the newspapers and magazine have only eyes for football so it is really hard to find articles or reviews about rugby and particularly about a rugby club such as the Madrid Lions R.F.C.

May you be so kind to guide me in order to find the proper reviews and proofs to help you analyze and verify the Madrid Lions page at Wikipedia, please?

Thank you very much in advance.

Sincerely,

Gonzalo Sato Former player of the Madrid Lions R.F.C. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gon3alo (talkcontribs) 14:45, 29 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]


@Gon3alo - Add the sources to the places in the article where they are directly relevant, see WP:Referencing for beginners for guidance. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 15:42, 29 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

 Checking... Looking for news and journal sources Not sure Unable to locate adequate sources about the RFC besides some local articles about game coverage. ®amos likes messages! 15:49, 29 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I posted to this helpdesk on the 4th of March and have not received any response. I am posting again as the reasons for rejection are not clear (as explained below) and I wish to resolve any issues with the article as soon as possible

My article was not accepted due to the subject (composer/performer, Daniel Rojas) being considered insufficiently notable. However, I believe the criteria for notability have been met:

1) The composer's works and recordings have been reviewed by numerous independent sources around Australia including major newspapers (Canberra Times), Australia's premiere music magazine (Limelight Magazine) and major online music media (Resonance magazine, AU Review and Sounds like Sydney).

2) The composer is represented by the Australian Music Centre - representation is reserved only for significant Australian composers and can only be attained via a rigorous peer-review process.

3) The composer's work is featured on the websites of internationally renown ensembles, orchestras and performers who have commissioned and performed his work.

4) The composer has been a finalist for a major national composition prize.

5) The composer is the subject of scholarly work discussing his innovations and new approaches to Latin-American influenced classical music.

6) The composer is on staff at the Sydney Conservatorium of Music, the largest tertiary music education institution in the country.

These seem to fulfil the criteria for notability several times over - if the criteria have still not been met, can you please clarify what additional information would be required to demonstrate notability?

Zkanga (talk) 14:57, 29 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

@Zkanga: I don't see how the subject meets WP:ARTIST. Furthermore, you have only one citation from The Canberra Times for which you did not provide a link. That newspaper has a website and gives no result for the subject, so I can't verify it. You have only one citation from Limelight (magazine) which only mentions the subject's CD being an "editor's choice." Finally, I removed a large copyright violation‎, so that's a major red flag. Chris Troutman (talk) 15:59, 29 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]
@Chris troutman: Thanks for your feedback. As the subject is a musician, he only needs to meet the first point of WP:MUSBIO. That is, he needs to be the subject of multiple published works. The Canberra Times website is hosted by Fairfax (which runs multiple newspapers) - they print only the main local news online but the arts pages (including) reviews are print only - I have the clipping for the review if required. Limelight Magazine only puts some of its content online: I have added a link to a second review of a CD featuring Rojas' work, which is online. You don't mention the three other online articles on other publications. How many articles are required before the subject is considered notable? This article has more references to independent articles than most of the living composers currently listed in List_of_Australian_composers, many of whom have only one or two independent articles.

Zkanga (talk) 17:56, 29 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

@Zkanga: There's not a hard and fast rule, but you are correct about MUSICBIO. I, personally, have very little tendency to assume good faith. Other editors may be willing to assume your citations are correct. Without being able to read the sources myself the subject doesn't pass notability. No doubt both Canberra Times and Limelight would be your reliable sources if only both of the articles could be verified. I'm not sure the other cited sources are reliable. Pointing to other subpar articles isn't a valid argument, either. Another reviewer might accept this article but I'm not willing to. Chris Troutman (talk) 02:19, 30 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

[[Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Peggy Willis-Aarnio] I submitted this article for review and each time I checked it the page said it was pending review. I checked it today and it says draft not submitted for review at the top. Does this mean it is still under review, or do I need to change something? This is my first article so I am confused as to the status of the article at this time. Thank you.Docia49 (talk) 15:57, 29 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

To editor Docia49:
Fixed This edit removed the code that places the article under review, but I've restored it. Anon126 (notify me of responses! / talk / contribs) 17:28, 29 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Hello my question is i just created this article still needs more work done, but i would like it also to translate it to Spanish , what would you suggest me to do? Rresendez5 (talk) 20:51, 29 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

no Unnecessary Answered at the user's talk page. Chris Troutman (talk) 02:36, 30 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]