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Template:Warsaw central stations

Unused route template. Gonnym (talk) 17:13, 12 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

This template was originally intended to provide a reader with detailed scheme of the interchange located in the Warsaw city centre and was inclouded through the "{{Enlarge}}" function in the Template:M1 line (Warsaw Metro). There are other examples on wiki using the same solution, see Template:Railways around London Paddington station RDT linked in e.g. Template:Bakerloo line RDT. — Antoni12345 (talk) 17:55, 13 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Templates should not be linked to like this as they aren't article content. If they are linked to, that means you are using them as content and they should be an article. Additionally that link itself is an MOS:EGG link, but that is the least of the problem, as links like that will practically never be found as they are hidden away like that. Gonnym (talk) 19:49, 13 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Well, that ship has sailed (train has left the station?) as {{Enlarge}} is now used on over 750 pages and approximately 250 other templates. Useddenim (talk) 20:17, 13 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
A local consensus in a very small part of the project does not get to override guidelines like MOS:EGG and WP:CLICKHERE. Gonnym (talk) 04:08, 14 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Gonnym:
  1. I think you're misinterpreting the use of {{enlarge}} here so that you can justify your POV in order to be able to delete {{Warsaw central stations}}; and
  2. What's your "better" solution?
Useddenim (talk) 10:41, 14 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep: now added to appropriate pages. Useddenim (talk) 20:17, 13 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Izno (talk) 20:22, 19 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

South Korean Junior Champions Figure Skating templates

Other nations do not include navigation templates for the Junior championships, only the Senior ones. Additionally, half of these names have no wikilinks, rendering the templates unhelpful. The Pairs template features only one team! Bgsu98 (Talk) 18:27, 19 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Tropical cyclone current storm templates

Violations of MOS:CURRENT and WP:NOTNEWS... determined to be improper by uninvolved editors at ANI. These editors state that the inclusion of current storm information violates policy and that attempting to duplicate official information may be dangerous. Updating this information also wastes the time of editors since it is not included in the final version of the article. We do not and should not have a responsibility to keep updated current information on storms since that's not what Wikipedia is for. People should refer to official sources for current storm information. Noah, BSBATalk 18:11, 19 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete as a violation of Wikipedia policies. OhHaiMark (talk) 20:39, 19 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete for all of the reasons given in the nomination. Bgsu98 (Talk) 20:44, 19 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Notified WikiProject Weather and WikiProject Tropical cyclones – editors have expressed intent to discuss on a WikiProject talk page, so hopefully editors watching those two project pages will be willing to do so here instead to keep the discussion centralized. ~ KN2731 {talk · contribs} 05:42, 20 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. Wikipedia is not meant to be current news and is likely highly unreliable for that. We should not be giving the impression to readers that this is the place to go for potentially life or death warnings. Even if these templates didn't directly go against the mentioned policies/guides, they seem a bad idea. CMD (talk) 13:02, 20 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per CMD. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 13:18, 20 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Even though I have been frequently updating for the past 4 years using the infobox, I agree with all these editors that Wikipedia is not a place for current news, and we should not be responsible for warning the people if the storm will make landfall. People should be directed to the RSMC, or country's meteorologist.  HurricaneEdgar 14:04, 20 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete, Wikipedia should NOT be a source for getting current warnings. That is what meteorological administrations and hurricane centers are for. We ain’t a newspaper!! West Virginia WXeditor (talk) 18:50, 20 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Agree with all comments provided so far. In addition to policy concerns, I think it is dangerous (to the end user and as a risk of lawsuits aimed at Wikipedia) to set ourselves up as a reliable source for life-saving information when nobody is guaranteed to update a current weather infobox when a new advisory is issued and infringes on WP:NOTADVICE in addition to other policies cited. DJ Cane (he/him) (Talk) 19:30, 20 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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