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22 August 2023

Suspected sockpuppets

Became active two days after sockmaster was blocked. Genre changes only like old account. Mobile edits only like old account FMSky (talk) 15:28, 22 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Rober Glasper is  Confirmed to the following:

Not sure about any connection to RockabillyRaccoon; they look like they're on different continents, and I'm not seeing any evidence of proxy usage - maybe a joe jobbing LTA? Courcelles already zapped the confirmed accounts - perhaps they can indicate whether they know who this is. Girth Summit (blether) 17:20, 22 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Girth Summit, I zapped them over at Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Giubbotto non ortodosso Courcelles (talk) 17:29, 22 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

25 December 2023

Suspected sockpuppets

Both genre warring only accounts, both mobile edits only, and also duck here

https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Whitey_Ford_Sings_the_Blues&diff=prev&oldid=1132056067

https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Whitey_Ford_Sings_the_Blues&diff=prev&oldid=1191714551 FMSky (talk) 12:44, 25 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

see basically the entire history of the article Whitey Ford Sings the Blues --FMSky (talk) 17:48, 25 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Is this account by any chance related as well? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Spiceislandseabird The edits and edit summaries are literally exactly the same, as well as mobile edits only

--FMSky (talk) 21:53, 25 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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26 December 2023

Suspected sockpuppets

Both genre warring only accounts, both advanced mobile edits only, and also duck here

https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Survival_of_the_Fittest_Live&diff=prev&oldid=1156704963

https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Forever_Your_Girl&diff=prev&oldid=1191384715 FMSky (talk) 15:34, 26 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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  •  Possilikely (a mix between possible and likely) but I could also make a cogent argument for two or more people who go to the same school or at least live in the same area who are into genre-warring (which is a popular pastime). RoySmith (talk) 20:22, 28 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
So two people from the same school who are both obsessively adding genres to music articles in exactly the same way, and who are both doing it on a phone with advanced mobile edit turned on? --FMSky (talk) 23:34, 28 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I'm not saying that's what's going on, but something like that is isn't outside the realm of possibility. My suggestion is to not try to read too much into my WP:MAGIC8BALL response and handle this basically on the behavioral evidence. RoySmith (talk) 23:39, 28 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I don't think they're the same. Both users were editing at the same time at various points - August 17 is a good reference, as both were editing genres but on wildly different pages. Suspected account also seems to have cleaner ref tags. Xanarki (talk) 19:49, 30 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
What do you mean with "cleaner ref tags"? --FMSky (talk) 21:04, 30 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Suspected account puts spaces to divide the parameters, uses refname, etc. unlike the other person. I didn't dive too deeply into their account but from a quick glance, I don't see edit warring either. Xanarki (talk) 02:03, 31 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
The original account also regularly uses refnames https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Humble_Pi&diff=prev&oldid=1170928377 --FMSky (talk) 03:37, 31 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Can some admin make a decision please. Its been almost 2 months. The damage this guy does is insane --FMSky (talk) 23:17, 24 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Pink clock Awaiting administrative action

  • Behavioral evidence shows enough differences to suggest these are different people. no Closing without action The WordsmithTalk to me 03:54, 1 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

01 February 2024

Suspected sockpuppets

similar genre obsession and style of editing as well as edit summaries. advanced mobile edits only like sockmaster. also immediately creates a user page and is familiar with hlists and sourcing -- FMSky (talk) 05:43, 1 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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  •  Additional information needed - Based on the fact that genre warring is a hugely popular activity, plus my findings from 26 December 2023, I'm going to need more to justify running a check. RoySmith (talk) 18:08, 1 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
What info exactly? --FMSky (talk) 09:19, 2 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Pairs of diffs (one by Madjick97, the other by a confirmed sock) demonstrating exactly how their "style of editing" is the same would be good. RoySmith (talk) 14:56, 2 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
here for example. replaces commas with bullet points in infoboxes

and also the habit of removing genres as "unsourced" but keeping other ones who also dont have souces in the same process

btw one of the previous checks also revealved dozens other socks (1 so its very likely he would be back by now. and there's still the immediate creation of a user page which is almost always a dead giveaway --FMSky (talk) 12:54, 3 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks! and what about that Spiceislandseabird guy from above who goes to the same school or something. i mean its obvious they're also related --FMSky (talk) 16:46, 3 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
As I said earlier, "My suggestion is to not try to read too much into my WP:MAGIC8BALL response and handle this basically on the behavioral evidence" RoySmith (talk) 16:49, 3 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

05 February 2024

Suspected sockpuppets

Moving this entry from 26 December 2023 on behalf of User:Xanarki RoySmith (talk) 15:53, 5 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry, don't know how to add to this investig properly, but just wanted to point out that this might be yet another one. User created this account literally days after the original Rockabilly account was banned, also does mobile edits, also only focuses on genres, and also is familiar with sockpuppetry as they admitted to using a second account (which got banned). Xanarki (talk) 06:07, 5 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Definitely not him, style of editing is different, and he actually seems to listen to the bands he edits and seems to have a bit of expertise whereas RRaccoon would just slap tons of genres into infoboxes completely unhinged. AFAIK there was also already an IP check on 23 January because of his other account --FMSky (talk) 15:59, 5 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
OK yeah you're right, I took a closer look and he definitely stays within certain genres/bands. The timing of the account creation was just incredibly coincidental lol. Xanarki (talk) 16:46, 5 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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