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Husayn Shah Mirza (talk⁺ · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · spi block · block log · CA · CheckUser(log) · investigate · cuwiki)

• Talib Husayn (talk⁺ · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · spi block · block log · CA · CheckUser(log) · investigate · cuwiki)

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1) Both solely edit Hazara-related articles 2) Both never use edit summaries 3) Both have "Husayn" in their username 4) The Editor Interaction Analyser shows that, even though they both have barely made any edits, there's a pretty significant overlap. Notice that many of these articles are extremely low-profile.

I basically lost the count how many times various editors have warned "Mirza Shah Husayn" about his rampant editorial pattern. He just doesn't care. Its basically another key aspect that links them together; never responding to any warning, or any remark in general. Basically, the only thing both do, is inserting bogus material with non-RS links such as Facebook, blogs, etc. as "sources". Pretty much WP:NOTHERE, regardless of sockpuppetry. - LouisAragon (talk) 02:40, 9 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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@GeneralizationsAreBad: You might want to reconsider this CU request. Talib Husayn made some edits a few days ago, the account should no longer be stale. Sir Sputnik (talk) 02:10, 21 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

•  Clerk declined - The alleged sock is  Stale. GAB^gab 03:18, 10 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

 Clerk endorsed - the sock is no longer stale. (@GeneralizationsAreBad: courtesy ping) Ivanvector (^Talk/_Edits) 13:19, 24 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

•  Clerk endorsed - Please compare these accounts. Thanks, GAB^gab 15:26, 24 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]
•  Technically indistinguishable. Blocked, tagged, closed. Katie^talk 16:51, 24 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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• Talib Hussain 20 (talk⁺ · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · spi block · block log · CA · CheckUser(log) · investigate · cuwiki)

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[1] 78.26 _{(spin me / revolutions)} 19:28, 11 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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•  Awaiting administrative action  Looks like a duck to me. They've admited to block evasion, and have almost the same username as a previous sock. Please block this account also. Sir Sputnik (talk) 23:57, 11 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Administrator note  Done. Mz7 (talk) 01:09, 12 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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• Talib Husayn Al Hassan (talk⁺ · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · spi block · block log · CA · CheckUser(log) · investigate · cuwiki)

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Obvious ducky. Name; [2]-[3]-[4]-[5]. Same target articles / sole interest in articles related to "Hazaras"; [6]. Never using edit summaries, alike the sockmaster / earlier blocked socks.[7]-[8]-[9]. - LouisAragon (talk) 21:20, 8 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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•  Clerk endorsed - For any sleepers. Sro23 (talk) 23:57, 8 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • No sleepers --Guerillero | Parlez Moi 02:52, 9 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]
•  Awaiting administrative action - Please indef sock. Sro23 (talk) 03:09, 9 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]
•  Blocked and tagged, closing. TonyBallioni (talk) 03:53, 9 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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• Talib Hussain Al Hassani (talk⁺ · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · spi block · block log · CA · CheckUser(log) · investigate · cuwiki)

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Another ducky. - LouisAragon (talk) 01:23, 25 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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•  Awaiting administrative action - Given the username,  Looks like a duck to me. Please block the new sock indefinitely. Sir Sputnik (talk) 03:27, 25 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]
•  Blocked and tagged given also the behavioural evidence. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 13:08, 25 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]
• Closing. Sir Sputnik (talk) 14:30, 25 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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• Talib Husayn Hazara (talk⁺ · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · spi block · block log · CA · CheckUser(log) · investigate · cuwiki)

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Self explanatory. Might wanna delete the draft as well, if possible. - LouisAragon (talk) 17:20, 29 November 2017 (UTC) LouisAragon (talk) 17:20, 29 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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•  Awaiting administrative action - Given the username,  Looks like a duck to me. Please block the new sock indefinitely. Sir Sputnik (talk) 00:14, 30 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]
• I performed a sleeper check. This is  Confirmed + Husayn Hassany (talk⁺ · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · spi block · block log · CA · CheckUser(log) · investigate · cuwiki).  Blocked and tagged. ~ Rob₁₃^Talk 01:21, 30 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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• Talib Hussain Hassani (Hazara) (talk⁺ · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · spi block · block log · CA · CheckUser(log) · investigate · cuwiki)
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Ditto. - LouisAragon (talk) 02:15, 5 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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 Confirmed, blocked, tagged, closing.--Bbb23 (talk) 16:27, 5 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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• Shar Shah-e-Hazara (talk⁺ · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · spi block · block log · CA · CheckUser(log) · investigate · cuwiki)
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Duckkk. - LouisAragon (talk) 17:43, 11 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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•  Clerk endorsed - Given the interest in the Hazara people and the fact that this account was registered hours after the most recent sock was blocked both look suspicious. Please check to confirm and identify potential sleepers. Sir Sputnik (talk) 18:28, 11 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
•  Confirmed.  No sleepers immediately visible. ~ Rob₁₃^Talk 02:33, 12 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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• Historian From Hazarajat (talk⁺ · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · spi block · block log · CA · CheckUser(log) · investigate · cuwiki)
• Talib Hassani (talk⁺ · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · spi block · block log · CA · CheckUser(log) · investigate · cuwiki)
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Same old - editorial - story. Both accounts show that they have been obsessed with Hazara-related articles right from the start. Better said, very low-profile Hazara-related articles, that basically only the sockmaster and his confirmed socks consistently edited in the past. I.e. Hazara Australians, Ghulam Haider, Hazaras, Liwa Fatemiyoun, 1888–1893 Uprisings of Hazaras, Abdul Khaliq Hazara (assassin), etc. - LouisAragon (talk) 23:17, 9 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

• Names of both socks are fully in line with previous blocked accounts (Historian from Hazarajat; also compare "Talib Hassani" with "Talib Husayn", "Talib Husayn Al Hassan"), "Talib Hussain Al Hassani", and "Talib Husayn Hazara")
• Adds some kind of unrecognized "Hazara" flag to aforementioned Hazara-related articles.[10] Just like the sockmaster and CU blocked socks did in the past.[11].
• EIA confirms the whole story once more.[12] - LouisAragon (talk) 23:39, 9 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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•  Clerk endorsed - Endorse a check. Evidence suggests definite socking. QEDK (後 ☕ 桜) 11:00, 12 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
•  In progress - TNT ^💖 19:12, 12 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
•  Likely, though somewhat difficult to tell in this case. Give bias to behaviour - TNT ^💖 19:15, 12 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
•  Awaiting administrative action - Socks need blocking. QEDK (後 ☕ 桜) 04:45, 16 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
•  Blocked and tagged. Favonian (talk) 20:18, 16 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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• Talib23 (talk⁺ · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · spi block · block log · CA · CheckUser(log) · investigate · cuwiki)
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• The name of the account contains the word "Talib" (compare with previous socks, i.e. Talib Hassani[13], Talib Husayn[14], Talib Husayn al Hassan[15], Talib Hussain Al Hassani[16], Talib Husayn Hazara[17], etc.)
• Alike the sockmaster and the previous socks, "Talib23" is solely interested in low-profile Hazara topics[18]-[19]
• Alike the sockmaster and the previous socks, "Talib23" makes pro-Hazara edits, such as here, where he increases the total number of ethnic Hazaras in the world. Other socks of Husayn Shah Mirza, as well as the sockmaster himself, are known to have done the exact same thing in the past.[20]-[21]-[22] - LouisAragon (talk) 00:11, 13 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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• I was going to request CU, but it is 3 days stale. This will have to be done with behavioural evidence. --TheSandDoctor ^Talk 01:02, 14 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]
• Based on a combination of CU logs and other data, Talib23 is very  Likely to Historian From Hazarajat (talk · contribs · count) and Talib Hassani (talk · contribs · count) but not necessarily related to the master.  Blocked without tags. Closing.--Bbb23 (talk) 18:59, 23 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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• Asghar Ali al Hazara (talk⁺ · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · spi block · block log · CA · CheckUser(log) · investigate · cuwiki)

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• Only interested in low-profile Hazara topics.[23] Fully in line with the sockmaster and the earlier blocked socks.
• Similarity in username, cf. "Talib Husayn Hazara", "Shar Shah-e-Hazara", and "Talib Husayn Al Hassani".

- LouisAragon (talk) 17:44, 29 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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Technically  Unrelated to the master as well as unrelated to another sock, Talib23 which had showed up previously and listed in the archive.
 — Berean Hunter (talk) 18:35, 14 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Not sufficient evidence, and account is now inactive. Closing. ST47 (talk) 15:53, 5 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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• Seeker 18th (talk⁺ · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · spi block · block log · CA · CheckUser(log) · investigate · cuwiki)

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Looks like WP:DUCK. The edits are similar to previous sockpuppets of this sockmaster, e.g. Compare new account's edit [24] with blocked socks' edit [25][26] And if you take a look at this SPI case archive, the edit pattern is similar, e.g. focusing on Hazara Australian and increasing the population of Hazaras by editing infobox and increasing the percentage of Hazara population in Afghanistan. Wario-Man (talk) 12:42, 21 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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 Unlikely.--Bbb23 (talk) 13:26, 28 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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