Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 May 24

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The result of the discussion was delete. ^Complex/_Rational 19:09, 31 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Semi-Protection → Wikipedia:Protection policy#Semi-protection  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

Previously deleted at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2008 March 15#Semi-protection → Wikipedia:Protection policy; WP:CSD#G4 declined by Hey man im josh due to the discussion being 16 years old. Similar to Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 May 24#Full protection below, with mentions at History of Wikipedia and Vandalism on Wikipedia. Mia Mahey (talk) 18:52, 24 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Just commenting to state that I did indeed decline the G4 tag, though that tag was valid. I did so because it's a 16 year old discussion with only a single participant other than the nominator. This discussion may very well end the same way, and that's fine if it does, but I thought this was worth discussing to see if there is consensus to uphold the old result or whether the perception of the usefulness of this redirect has changed. Hey man im josh (talk) 19:16, 24 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete this unnecessary and potentially misleading WP:CNR. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 13:14, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Retarget to Vandalism on Wikipedia or delete. This is clearly not a Wikipedia specific term. Crouch, Swale (talk) 18:23, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete as per Shhhnotsoloud. I oppose retargeting to Vandalism on Wikipedia specifically because it's not a Wikipedia-specific term. Indeed, "semi-protection" as it's used on Wikipedia could be found on other sites, although admittedly the only one Google mentioned was its use on Wookiepedia of all places-- though I'll note that it's on a page talking about its use of the MediaWiki software, which *is* the software Wikipedia uses. I could also see someone using the term 'semi-protected' in other contexts, unrelated to both wiki sites and websites in general. 𝔏𝔲𝔫𝔞𝔪𝔞𝔫𝔫🌙🌙🌙 𝔗𝔥𝔢 𝔐𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔫𝔦𝔢𝔰𝔱 (talk) 19:45, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete, not specific to Wikipedia and can be applied to wikis or even other websites. Chaotıċ Enby (talk · contribs) 15:10, 27 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete Cross-namespace, not a helpful search term for regular readers. Air on White (talk) 09:41, 28 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was keep. Jay 💬 20:08, 31 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Never Gonna Dance Again (song) → Careless Whisper  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

Current lyrics (?) not mentioned at target, retarget to dab at Never Gonna Dance Again as ambiguous. * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 16:11, 24 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep. There's a good hatnote at the current target. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 13:17, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Retarget to dab as incomplete disambig; the dab itself lists two different songs that can be valid targets. 𝔏𝔲𝔫𝔞𝔪𝔞𝔫𝔫🌙🌙🌙 𝔗𝔥𝔢 𝔐𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔫𝔦𝔢𝔰𝔱 (talk) 17:36, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • ... but I think "Careless Whisper" is the primary topic. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 12:13, 26 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Honestly, that's where we'd differ-- I'd believe the primary target to be Never Gonna Dance Again (Sugababes song), which is a song that actually has "Never Gonna Dance Again" as the title. Either way, retargeting to the dab seems like the least harmful option here. 𝔏𝔲𝔫𝔞𝔪𝔞𝔫𝔫🌙🌙🌙 𝔗𝔥𝔢 𝔐𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔫𝔦𝔢𝔰𝔱 (talk) 15:06, 26 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep - I believe evidence for the fact that the current target is the WP:PTOPIC is the fact that Careless Whisper is an article on only the song, while the Sugababes song is a subsection of a page about an entire album. That alone shows a difference in the impact of the two songs, making one a better WP:PTOPIC despite the lyric in question not being the title. (If consensus leans away from this, cast a secondary !vote towards the DAB over the Sugababes album.) Fieari (talk) 23:48, 28 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep per Fieari and PTOPIC. Rlendog (talk) 17:14, 31 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was delete. ^Complex/_Rational 14:21, 31 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Full protection → Wikipedia:Protection policy#Full protection  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

WP:XNR only linked from one talk page archive. Solo climbing and Protected intersection both have sections titled "Full protection". Mia Mahey (talk) 04:55, 24 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete XNR, and different meanings in different contexts -- 65.92.244.237 (talk) 14:42, 24 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete per nom. * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 16:11, 24 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete clearly not a Wikipedia specific term. Crouch, Swale (talk) 17:35, 24 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  Or redirect to Vandalism on Wikipedia. Crouch, Swale (talk) 18:23, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete this unnecessary and potentially misleading WP:CNR. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 13:18, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete as per IP, Pppery, and Shhhnotsoloud. I oppose redirecting as per Crouch precisely because of his reason for deletion-- this is clearly not a Wikipedia-specific term (and is even LESS of one compared to 'semi-protection'), and thus it is ill-served by being redirected to a page exclusively about Wikipedia itself. 𝔏𝔲𝔫𝔞𝔪𝔞𝔫𝔫🌙🌙🌙 𝔗𝔥𝔢 𝔐𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔫𝔦𝔢𝔰𝔱 (talk) 20:02, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was delete. ✗plicit 14:36, 31 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Pātītī → Poa cita  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

Not mentioned in target. Most google results suggest this is first a kind of axe and only secondarily a (different) grass, Microlaena stipoides. See e.g. dictionary entry Rusalkii (talk) 03:41, 24 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete. It is now mentioned at the target. However, it is a Maori common name that has been recorded for 3 species of grasses [1] as well as perennial grasses in general [2]. Use as a general term for grasses takes this into WP:FORRED territory. Plantdrew (talk) 15:38, 24 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was delete. ✗plicit 14:35, 31 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Center for Transpacific Studies → University of Southern California  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

Not mentioned in target. May be appropriate to include since it does seem to be a center of the university, but unclear to me if it is due weight; no objections to keeping the redirect if the subject is added to the article. Rusalkii (talk) 03:38, 24 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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