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This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on June 27, 2024.

LGBT in Brazil

The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more redirects. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was retarget to LGBT people in Brazil. Complex/Rational 11:38, 5 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Based on this discussion, it seems LGBT people in Brazil is the primary topic per WP:Broad-concept article. But if this is ambiguous, move LGBT in Brazil (disambiguation) here or delete that DAB? --MikutoH talk! 23:57, 27 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

That discussion, which does not appear to have reached a consensus, itself links to Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 June 18#LGBT in Russia, but that one was complicated by the fact that there isn't a broad-concept "people" article for Russia. However, it appears that most people agree that, if it exists, the broad-concept article should be the target, so support the proposed retarget to LGBT people in Brazil. Chaotic Enby (talk · contribs) 13:31, 28 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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French-speakers outside of Quebec

The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more redirects. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was no consensus * Pppery * it has begun... 01:49, 9 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Previous RfDs for this redirect and similar redirects:

The redirect has a different target than it had during the RFD in 2019, but still has the same problem: The redirect is not exclusive to Canada as there are French speakers around the world, like in ... France and Louisiana, neither part of Canada. Steel1943 (talk) 18:23, 12 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

In Canadian French, "Francophones hors Québec" refers specifically to French speakers that live in a Canadian province or territory that is not Quebec.[1] It does not apply to those living in other countries. That being said, this is en.wiki, and I don't know if English-language sources use "French-speakers outside of Quebec" in this sense. 162 etc. (talk) 19:13, 12 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Discussion thus far has a consensus to delete, but a relist seems appropriate given the prior discussion and minimal participation.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, signed, Rosguill talk 18:38, 20 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, CycloneYoris talk! 21:30, 27 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • Keep, although I wouldn't mind refining it as well per above. Now, strictly speaking and based on a logical, mathematical approach to language, this search could include French speakers outside Canada as well, such as in Africa, the Caribbean, Louisiana, and even France itself. However, I don't think such a logical and mathematical approach is how people typically use language-- when the scope of a Canadian province is specified, I think it is entirely reasonable for someone to expect to stay within the scope of Canada even without spelling it out, and the fact that this is a translation of a commonly used French-Canadian phrase that does in fact always means "within Canada" pushes me more towards keeping the target of this redirect refined to within Canada as well. Fieari (talk) 23:54, 27 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete Upon further review, this redirect has no incoming links. We lose nothing by deleting it. 162 etc. (talk) 05:27, 28 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Incoming internal links are not the only usage of redirects here. Search plausibility is actually the more primary usage, wikipedians can usually be expected not to link to redirects at all. Fieari (talk) 00:20, 2 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Is it plausible for users to search for a term that doesn't appear to have any kind of widespread usage in reliable sources, or well-established definition? 162 etc. (talk) 16:38, 2 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Term seems to have widespread usage in Canada, specifically. Google confirms. Fieari (talk) 06:40, 3 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Retarget to Geographical distribution of French speakers per Tavix. C F A 💬 16:22, 3 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Bible Videos

The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more redirects. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was no consensus. However, participants were in favour of creating a disambiguation page under the lowercased title of Bible videos. Jay 💬 14:24, 5 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

List of films of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints#Bible Videos doesn't seem like the appropriate target for such a broadly-named redirect. ~Awilley (talk) 04:35, 12 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

disambiguate. keeping would feel like if "music video" redirected to iosys, or if "fast food" redirected to mcdonald's. there's really no point in redirecting a basic concept like this to a single entity cogsan (nag me) (stalk me) 02:36, 15 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Dabify as per Thryduulf. While it's true that Google points to the LDS as "primary", that's something I find baffling-- Surely at the very least Veggietales or The Prince of Egypt or any number of other mainstream, more-generally-Christian videos and films would be primary over the Mormon videos. The lists Thryduulf grabbed have links to those films and more. Good work! 𝔏𝔲𝔫𝔞𝔪𝔞𝔫𝔫🌙🌙🌙 𝔗𝔥𝔢 𝔐𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔫𝔦𝔢𝔰𝔱 (talk) 09:30, 15 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, signed, Rosguill talk 18:33, 20 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, CycloneYoris talk! 21:29, 27 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The Stand Off

The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more redirects. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was delete. Jay 💬 14:31, 5 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

This is not mentioned in the target article. Third party searches are not really helping matters to identify what subject these redirects are meant to refer either. On one hand, searching "The Stand Off Netflix" on some third party search engines returns results for miniseries Waco: American Apocalypse; however, I was not able to find any information stating that miniseries was known previously as "The Stand Off". In addition, there is also the subject at Standoff (film), made in 2016 ... but, there is also a different film which we apparently do not have an article for, which was also made in 2016, called "The Standoff" [2] starring Olivia Holt. Probably best to delete these unless a strong connection can be made between these redirects and at least one of the aforementioned subjects (or one that has yet to be created.) Steel1943 (talk) 17:43, 11 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Upon further research, seems the subject of these redirects is not the miniseries Waco: American Apocalypse. According to an article written a few years back [3], apparently, the subject is about a screenplay (probably intended to become a film) written by Mark Heyman, but in that article, there is no mention of a subject by the name of the nominated redirects. Steel1943 (talk) 19:48, 11 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Weak retarget to the dab at Standoff where two films are listed. "Stand off" is obviously a very plausible search term for most things listed at the dab page, "Stand Off" equally so for at least the media productions and the Canadian community. Similarly "The Stand Off" and "The Standoff" are both completely plausible search terms for the other, but what about for things without the definite article? My gut feeling is that it's not impossible for someone to misremember the name of the media productions, but I'm not familiar with any of them hence the "weak". Thryduulf (talk) 22:06, 11 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, signed, Rosguill talk 18:33, 20 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, CycloneYoris talk! 21:28, 27 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The above is preserved as an archive of the discussion. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect's talk page or in a deletion review).

National Register of Historic Places listings in Metroplex1

The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more redirects. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was delete. As an unopposed deletion nomination. Jay 💬 14:34, 5 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Implausible typo. Likely left over from an editor trying to do a round-robin move without the ability to suppress redirects. --Ahecht (TALK
PAGE) 21:28, 27 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Woodshop and wood shop

The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more redirects. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was Disambiguate * Pppery * it has begun... 23:55, 5 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Currently woodshop redirects to vocational education while wood shop redirects to woodworking. The redirects should be consistent and redirect to the same place. "woodshop" and "wood shop" are the same with the only difference being an inclusion or absence of a space. Fish567 (talk) 18:56, 27 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

retarget woodshop to woodworking. not a lot of mentions of shops of wood variety in vocational education, and only one mention of it in woodworking, which works for me. there's also a film titled woodshop, which either makes things more confusing or would make for a good enough target cogsan (nag me) (stalk me) 19:16, 27 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Amoogus

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 July 5#Amoogus

Aliens guy

The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more redirects. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was delete. Complex/Rational 21:57, 4 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

as opposed to "ancient aliens guy", this doesn't seem to narrow things down a whole lot. could refer to james cameron for all we know cogsan (nag me) (stalk me) 18:41, 27 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Rods from Gods and Rods from gods

The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more redirects. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was delete and Delete. Complex/Rational 21:55, 4 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

This redirect has a nonsensical title containing two differentcapitalisations of the same term. 216.250.199.4 (talk) 17:18, 27 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per nom. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 17:23, 27 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete the Redirect and Delete the redirect as redundant and redundant cogsan (nag me and nag me) (stalk me and stalk me) 18:24, 27 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Death Trap (Star Wars:The Clone Wars (2008 TV series)

The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more redirects. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was delete. Complex/Rational 14:47, 4 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The redirect has a pair of unclosed parenthesis. Merge history with Death Trap (Star Wars: The Clone Wars) and delete this one. Gonnym (talk) 08:55, 27 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

delete as malformed (there's also a missing space after the colon), but where's the second unclosed parenthesis? cogsan (nag me) (stalk me) 19:17, 27 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Patrick Patterson

The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more redirects. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was Restore the 2020 version * Pppery * it has begun... 01:46, 9 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The Pat Patterson to whom this redirects actually has the given name Pierre, and does not appear to have ever been known as "Patrick"; in fact, most of the people on the disambiguation page, Pat Patterson (disambiguation), have a given first name that is not "Pat" or "Patrick" (though there are a few that do). I propose to disambiguate this title separately, listing only those names of people who were actually named or known as Patrick Patterson. I have drafted this under the current redirect. BD2412 T 00:23, 27 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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