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The result of the discussion was delete. ✗plicit 23:44, 9 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Daddy Sakurai → Masahiro Sakurai  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

vandalism, though i'm probably getting in trouble for how hard it made me laugh at work cogsan _{(nag me) (stalk me)} 20:59, 2 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete per nom --Lenticel ^(talk) 00:02, 3 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete - not really vandalism per se, but also not really something that would ever serve has a helpful search term either. Sergecross73 msg me 02:35, 3 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete: Per nom. 98𝚃𝙸𝙶𝙴𝚁𝙸𝚄𝚂 • [𝚃𝙰𝙻𝙺] 18:23, 3 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was delete. ✗plicit 23:44, 9 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Kirby of the Stars → Kirby: Right Back at Ya!  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

not entirely sure this one should be with the rest as it's a translation of the japanese name for the series, but the same rationale applies cogsan _{(nag me) (stalk me)} 20:55, 2 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was retarget to Kirby (series). (non-admin closure) CycloneYoris ^talk! 21:29, 9 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• 星のカービィ → Kirby: Right Back at Ya!  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 
• Hoshi no Kābī → Kirby's Dream Land  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 
• Hoshi no Kirby → Kirby: Right Back at Ya!  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 
• Hoshi no Kaabii → Kirby: Right Back at Ya!  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

this is also the japanese name for the series. retarget to kirby (series), or leave as is? cogsan _{(nag me) (stalk me)} 20:50, 2 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Retarget to Kirby (series) as this is the name of that series in its country of origin, per WP:RFOR. (I'd also accept a few more alternative transliterations (such as Kabi, Ka-bi, Hosi, etc...), but no pressing need to create them.) Fieari (talk) 07:03, 3 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Don't Delete - they're plausible search terms. Indifferent on retaining or retargeting. Sergecross73 msg me 16:28, 3 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Retarget to Kirby (series) per Fieari; the franchise as a whole would probably be the primary topic here anyhow. TappyTurtle [talk | contribs] 00:06, 4 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was delete. ✗plicit 23:45, 9 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• List of Kirby magical items → Kirby (character)  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

please define "magical" and "item" in the context of kirby. also there's no such list in the target, i guess cogsan _{(nag me) (stalk me)} 20:40, 2 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Comment - This redirect is from a merge consensus at AfD back in 2007. Not sure when the merged content was cut from the kirby article... I'd be interested if it was moved somewhere else, in which case we should retarget it there in order to preserve edit history. If the content is really and truly eradicated from any live article... well, maybe we should consider keeping it for historical edit history purposes anyway, since the content was merged (even if later removed)? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Fieari (talk • contribs) 07:23, 3 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  i thought about that for a second, but that's when the definition thing came up, because without some idea of what's "magical" or "an item", a truck would be just as much of a magical item as the star rod, nova, and using your three nearly dead servants as meat shields cogsan _{(nag me) (stalk me)} 12:37, 3 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete I have never been a fan of the assertion that redirects from merges should be kept if the relevant content is long gone. Also, this redirect going to that target makes absolutely zero sense. QuicoleJR (talk) 17:25, 3 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was disambiguate. (non-admin closure) CycloneYoris ^talk! 20:35, 9 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Olympic trials → United States Olympic trials  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

"Olympic trials" is not unambiguously affiliated with US Olympic trials, other countries and other trials exist. Hey man im josh (talk) 19:05, 2 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep: Today I checked all the links to Olympic trials.(Bryan Leininger, Katie McGregor) They all referred to the United States Olympic trials. Until now there was nobody who used in a different way. IPPON01 (talk) 19:15, 2 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

That's incorrect. There were a number of other Olympic trials that had already existed, such as the Canadian curling ones. Hey man im josh (talk) 17:01, 3 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

This is a terrible argument to use for keeping, and violates WP:GLOBAL. Joseph2302 (talk) 08:04, 4 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Joseph2302: Are you referring to my comment, or the one I'm replying to? Hey man im josh (talk) 22:59, 5 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The one you're replying to, sorry if that was unclear. Joseph2302 (talk) 06:45, 7 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Dabify or delete generic term, just because a few people incorrectly used the link for US events, that doesn't mean American trials are the primary topic for this. Joseph2302 (talk) 21:47, 2 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Dabify. The term being used that way on Wikipedia is irrelevant as it's just a mistake unless there are WP:RS that use just "Olympic trials" to refer to the US Olympic trials. If that were the case, I'd reconsider my !vote but even then would it really be the WP:PRIMARYTOPIC? Nickps (talk) 00:19, 3 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Dabify per WP:GLOBAL: there are other countries that hold Olympic trials. Rosbif73 (talk) 07:04, 3 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• DABify per above. I'd also like to mention that current usage of a redirect in mainspace articles is not really a good indicator of whether or not a redirect should be kept... linking a redirect in mainspace should probably, in most cases, be changed to a pipe anyway, and it isn't really the main purpose of a redirect. The main purpose would be to catch searches, assist external links, hold edit history from moves, and other such things. Fieari (talk) 07:35, 4 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was delete. ✗plicit 23:46, 9 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Rr'd → Rickrolling  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

vague at best, since there's at least 2 other things "rr" could stand for cogsan _{(nag me) (stalk me)} 17:22, 2 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Comment - Google fails me on a technical level here, as they always ignore punctuation in searches. I'm at a loss for what else "rr'd" could mean... what two other things did you have in mind? Fieari (talk) 07:01, 3 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  among other things i've seen used around places as verbs or verb-adjacent terms accompanied by an apostrophe and a lowercase d, i can name "role reversal", "railroad", some linux debugging thing, "reverse rape", and some fighting game terms i can't remember and won't count as an example cogsan _{(nag me) (stalk me)} 11:37, 3 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  Thanks for the partial list. I just want to evaluate each you mentioned in terms of how likely it is to be found in the wild and then searched for. Role reversal sounds like a fanfic jargon term? I guess that's vaguely plausible, but it seems pretty niche. I'm familiar with railroaded as a verb/adjective in a TTRPG context (might also be used when discussing writing stories in general), but don't think I've seen rr'd used for it before. I'll admit it's plausible someone might do so, but I don't think it's common? The linux thing you mentioned is probably rr (debugging), and appending an 'd to it seems pretty natural in context to mean "used the rr tool"... but I'm not sure that would provoke someone to search for the term with the 'd included. I hope reverse rape is another fanfic jargon thing, because if the phrase is appearing often enough in any other community to allow abbreviating it I feel like something is seriously wrong. The only fighting game reference I found to it was a Guilty Gear sequel suffix, and possibly an abbreviation of "round robin", neither of which would get a 'd. My gut reaction comparing these to rickrolling is that rickrolling is much more broadly used and ubiquitous, and thus more likely to be what is being looked for... but it's not a strong enough gut reaction to actually bold a !vote on it. I'd like to see what other people think. Fieari (talk) 07:30, 4 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  late, but i did some looking and found some instances of "round robin" abbreviated and used as a verb with an apostrophe... on a discussion about sonic the fighters of all games. i don't think it changes my delete vote, but it's really funny that that's the one specific game i happened to find. still, the result was on youtube comments, so eh cogsan _{(nag me) (stalk me)} 15:55, 4 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete. I searched for things like "I rr'd" -rrd and "she rr'd" -rrd to try and get around Google's refusal to respect pronunciation. Results were exclusively unexplained uses in relation to Dragonball Legends, League of Legends, turbos, betting, "Blood Bowl Tactics" (whatever that is) and Final Fantasy XI (along with a ton of OCR errors). Thryduulf (talk) 20:14, 9 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was keep. (non-admin closure) CycloneYoris ^talk! 20:33, 9 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• We're no strangers to love → Rickrolling  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

the first line from never gonna give you up, the song used in rickrolls. retarget to its article, or leave as is? cogsan _{(nag me) (stalk me)} 17:20, 2 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep as the most informative target. Someone searching this probably came across someone making a reference to rickrolling somewhere without explaining it, which is entirely plausible. The current target will explain to the searcher what the source media was referencing far better than targeting the song itself. And if they really do want the song, the target will link them to it quickly enough. Fieari (talk) 02:57, 3 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Comment: The RfD from April closed as retarget to Rickrolling as the only article having mention of the lyric words. Jay 💬 17:30, 6 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep per Fieari and the previous RfD. Thryduulf (talk) 20:15, 9 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was delete. Jay 💬 17:06, 9 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• ROnald McDonald → Ronald McDonald  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

minor capitalization mistake cogsan _{(nag me) (stalk me)} 16:00, 2 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete Does not help readers since typing "ROnald McDonald" automatically sends you to the correct after even without a redirect page. The consensus I see around RfD is that redirects are not for generic typos. Ca ^{talk to me!} 14:01, 3 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete: Per nom. 98𝚃𝙸𝙶𝙴𝚁𝙸𝚄𝚂 • [𝚃𝙰𝙻𝙺] 18:27, 3 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was keep. Jay 💬 17:03, 9 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Dumb Garbage song → Dumb (Garbage song)  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

Was missing parentheses. Not needed now that Dumb (Garbage song) has been created. Jameboy (talk) 11:40, 2 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep: Possible search term and redirects are cheap. I don't see how deleting it would be an improvement to Wikipedia. Hey man im josh (talk) 19:10, 2 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete: the correct version exists. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 21:07, 3 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep plausible search term, and so WP:CHEAP applies. Joseph2302 (talk) 08:07, 4 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Redirect to Yellow Submarine (song) Keep per josh and Joesph BugGhost🪲👻 12:35, 8 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was keep. ✗plicit 14:25, 9 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Hammering In My Head → Hammering in My Head  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

Seems like an unnecessary capitalisation variant now that it has been moved to the correct "Hammering in My Head" (lower case "in") Jameboy (talk) 11:35, 2 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep as a plausible {{R from miscapitalization}}. - Presidentman talk · contribs (Talkback) 15:05, 2 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep: Plausible miscapitalization. I don't see how deleting it would be an improvement to Wikipedia. Hey man im josh (talk) 19:10, 2 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep per above. Fieari (talk) 03:07, 3 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was procedural close to a standalone article. Jay 💬 09:12, 9 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• 1987 European Judo Championships → European Judo Championships#Combined Competitions  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

Deletion. The redirect is misleading, giving the notion that an article exists in templates such as those in Category:European Judo Championships navigational boxes. the redirect also creates a MOS:CIRCULAR loop at the European Judo Championships § Combined Competitions. In addition, in most cases articles linking to the 1987 European Judo Championships missing article also link to the European Judo Championships article, which makes the redirect create an unhelpful MOS:DUPLICATELINK. I suggest we delete the redirect in order to encourage page creation. CLalgo (talk) 08:45, 2 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Note a stub article has now been created at 1987 European Judo Championships, though that article doesn't demonstrate it passes WP:GNG. Thus, the redirect in question doesn't exist anymore. Joseph2302 (talk) 08:08, 4 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was keep. (non-admin closure) CycloneYoris ^talk! 03:56, 9 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• SearXNG → Searx#SearXNG fork  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

The original Searx is no longer supported, and SearXNG is different enough to warrant its own article. I've started a draft here: Draft:SearXNG Benpiano800 (talk) 18:40, 24 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ✗plicit 00:24, 2 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep The target has information about SearXNG. Until the draft is accepted, the redirects provides info, albeit lacking detail. The AfC reviewers will request speedy deletion for the redirect once they accept it. Ca ^{talk to me!} 14:04, 3 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep per Ca. Skynxnex (talk) 02:53, 4 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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