Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2023 December 9

The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more redirects. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the discussion was delete. While it was asserted that the redirect is harmless, arguments to the contrary were not rebutted and deletion enjoys a numerical advantage. _signed, Rosguill ^talk 23:53, 16 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

• Funny jokes → Joke  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

Unplausible search term. While it may look like it was expanded to an article in 2008 with a string of edits, the article was actually an unencyclopedic joke repository ("Welcome to the Funny Jokes page on Wikipedia. There are blond jokes, kids jokes, yo mama jokes, and many others here. Feel free to submit your own jokes by editing a category and signing it."), so there's no history to keep. QuietCicada - Talk 21:22, 24 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete Unplausible redirect and gets very little no page views. We don't have redirects like "cute cats" or "warm fire". Ca ^{talk to me!} 15:34, 25 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep as a very common and unambiguous phrase (see [the https://www.google.com/search?q=%22funny+jokes%22 google search results] for example). Duckmather (talk) 01:53, 1 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ✗plicit 23:41, 1 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete: just being a common phrase does not warrant being a redirect. Aaron Liu (talk) 01:03, 2 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
• Leaning weak keep - redirects are generally cheap, and there seems to be a consistent trickle of pageviews, that would indicate at least a little bit of usage worth retaining it for (per WP:R#K5). Could be tagged with {{R from related phrase}} imo. Best, ^user:A smart kitten_meow 13:00, 2 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  Adding to my previous !vote; also worth keeping per K4 as it’s existed as a redirect since 2006. Best, ^user:A smart kitten_meow 01:43, 10 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

  Looking at the history, it also got a massive spike in pageviews on the 7th August this year. Huh. I wonder what caused that.^{[/gen] user:}A smart kitten_meow 13:06, 2 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

  There’s a lot of history, so I don’t think it’s cheap.
  Also, what’s /gen? Aaron Liu (talk) 15:31, 2 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

  @Aaron Liu: /gen is a tone indicator - I used it here because I thought that part of my reply may have come across as sarcastic otherwise. Best, ^user:A smart kitten_meow 16:27, 2 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

  Also, the history will be kept whether or not the redirect is deleted or not - if it’s deleted, the history just won’t be publicly available. Best, ^user:A smart kitten_meow 08:35, 8 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

  The deletion policy page says deleted edits are kept “at least temporarily”, which implies they’ll get deleted after some retention period or something. Aaron Liu (talk) 12:05, 8 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

  @Aaron Liu Huh. I hadn’t seen that before. My understanding was/is that (contrary to that line in the deletion policy) everything is stored indefinitely, even if deleted. Either way, thankfully, we shouldn’t have to worry about storage. Best, ^user:A smart kitten_meow 12:21, 8 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

  Regardless, I don't think this is a plausible search term. It could also refer to Humour. Aaron Liu (talk) 17:54, 8 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

  @Aaron Liu: FYI - I’ve opened a discussion about that sentence at WT:DEL § Storage of deleted articles. Best, ^user:A smart kitten_meow 12:41, 8 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete. The page "Joke" does not include any funny jokes. We are an encyclopedia, not a collection of funny jokes. SouthParkFan2006 (talk) 19:03, 6 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
• Retarget to Index of joke types or delete. Jay 💬 07:47, 9 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, CycloneYoris ^talk! 20:30, 9 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete. No such list at target, and such a list should not exist anyways since it's a matter of perspective if any joke is funny or not. Steel1943 (talk) 22:09, 9 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep Seems plausible and harmless. Alextejthompson (Ping me or leave a message on my talk page) 18:31, 10 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

  Ca's comment seemed to explain how these redirects are not "harmless" due to potentially unnecessary and/or inaccurate adjectives being used in the search for the target subject. This seems to also go against plausibility since a person's use of an adjective to describe any subject is perception/opinion, which tends to differ from one person to another. Steel1943 (talk) 00:42, 12 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

• Weak delete seems implausible. Crouch, Swale (talk) 18:20, 12 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
• Also note that the singular Funny joke has been deleted under G1 and G10 in 2006 and 2007. Crouch, Swale (talk) 18:22, 12 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete. The singular doesn't exist and since "A joke is a display of humour" then funny appears to be a redundant adjective. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 21:04, 13 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The above is preserved as an archive of the discussion. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect's talk page or in a deletion review).