Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2023 April 6

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The result of the discussion was retarget to Video game emulator#Impersonation by malware. (non-admin closure) Skynxnex (talk) 15:55, 14 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

• PCSX4 → List of video game console emulators#Sony  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

Nominating this redirect on behalf of AnonymousStackOverflow, who wanted to nominate this redirect but couldn't. Their rationale for deletion is as follows… CycloneYoris ^talk! 21:32, 6 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

• PCSX4 is a verified scam^[1][2] and this redirect was likely created by its owners. — Preceding unsigned comment added by AnonymousStackOverflow (talk • contribs) 16:21, 6 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

• Retarget to Video game emulator#Impersonation by malware where mentioned. Given that the search results are stuffed up with irrelevant hits and the fact that it's a scam, it's better to send searchers to sourced content instead of deleting it, even if the mention at the proposed target is a bit short. 59.149.117.119 (talk) 22:50, 6 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Keep or retarget as above. The redirect was created by me, and I am not associated with the scam. I mentioned the scam on the target page, but @Woodroar removed it because of Talk:List_of_video_game_console_emulators#Semi-protected_edit_request_on_3_January_2023. I've addressed that complaint and re-added the mention. The point of it and the redirect is to help readers find out that PCSX4 is a scam. I am indifferent as to whether the redirect points here or to the target proposed above. Sandstein 05:56, 7 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Apologies for the assumption of being associated with it. I also didn't know about that article, and I now agree with retargeting it. Anonymous from Stack Overflow (talk) 15:43, 7 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

• Retarget to Video game emulator#Impersonation by malware per anon --Lenticel ^(talk) 03:13, 9 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was delete. ✗plicit 05:46, 14 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

• Chumbrella → Kirby Star Allies  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

Not mentioned in target article. QuicoleJR (talk) 13:53, 6 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Delete as minor video game element not mentioned in target. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 05:59, 7 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete as not mentioned at the target. This is a real variant of Kirby's Parasol ability in the game, but it's too minor for a mention in any Wikipedia article. Glades12 (talk) 10:41, 7 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete seems to be an obscure in game item --Lenticel ^(talk) 03:14, 9 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was keep. (non-admin closure) CycloneYoris ^talk! 06:03, 13 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

• Gyeongmudae → Blue House  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

Blanked by Jacoblee628 with the edit summary removed the redirect; the korean wiki has its own page for this, i think it may be worth having one for it too in english, which is essentially a WP:REDYES argument for deletion. I personally have no opinion on the redirect at this time. _signed, Rosguill ^talk 02:21, 6 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Keep as a redirect with possibilities. While the Korean-language Wikipedia has two articles, the English-language Wikipedia discusses the historical building and the contemporary building in the same article. Therefore this is a useful redirect. :3 F4U (they/it) 02:58, 7 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep per F4U. The phrase is also mentioned in the article. - Presidentman talk · contribs (Talkback) 15:32, 7 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was keep. Jay 💬 10:50, 13 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

• Wikipedia:ANI AUTISM IP → Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/IncidentArchive779#Persistent dynamic IP at Talk:Autism  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

0 page views most years, most views likely accidental search hits. Clutters WP namespace, title improper. Opal|zukor^(discuss) 09:01, 29 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete per nom. Starship 24 (talk) 13:56, 29 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete I think it no longer has any use --Lenticel ^(talk) 00:12, 30 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep – these sorts of shortcuts are beneficial IMO, if ideally for more important discussions. This redirect has been linked a few times. Not likely this particular shortcut format, but otherwise such a discussion will indeed take a while to find and link. 0 page views most years is incorrect, by the way (that time period might be wrong). J947 † ^edits 08:15, 30 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
• Weak keep per J947: WP:CHEAP may also apply here. However, I am not completely opposed to deletion. InterstellarGamer12321 (talk | contribs) 14:00, 31 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep – It's used in edit summaries, e.g. Special:Diff/564537573. Deleting the redirect will cause a loss of history. Favonian (talk) 19:05, 2 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep per above. Useful and unambiguous, no reason for considering deletion. CycloneYoris ^talk! 23:11, 5 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, _signed, Rosguill ^talk 02:15, 6 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep Useful, unambiguous, and used in edit summaries. There is no reason to delete it. QuicoleJR (talk) 15:17, 6 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was no consensus. There is, however, a preference for creating a set index/dab page, as that currently serves readers better than the search results. (non-admin closure) – Uanfala (talk) 12:04, 22 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

• Sirish → Ceres (dwarf planet)  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

Retarget to Allu Sirish; there is no reason I can find that it should go here. An anonymous username, not my real name 02:43, 19 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete: It should never have been created. Allu is a possible interest, but is not the primary topic. SmokeyJoe (talk) 03:34, 19 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
• Disambiguate, since it can also refer to Sirish Gurung. The current targeting is because it's the Beltalowda translation of Ceres, but this isn't an Expanse wiki and that's not an appropriate target. - Eureka Lott 04:18, 19 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

  Beltalowda translation of Ceres? What are people think, inserting transient recent fiction fandom into Wikipedia?!

  User:EurekaLott, can you help me understand RfD-ers? Why keep a bad redirect that should never have been made? If it hadn’t been made, would you now create it to point to a DAB? Why not let the internal search engine do its job? SmokeyJoe (talk) 04:44, 19 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

  The title can plausibly refer to multiple people for whom we have articles. Why wouldn't we want to disambiguate (or to be more specific, set-indexify) it? - Eureka Lott 05:21, 19 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

  Because the internal search engine is a more robust solution. It picks up things people didn’t think of, and its results change as mainspace changes. With the redirect, the reader doesn’t get the internal search results. SmokeyJoe (talk) 22:21, 21 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

• Disambiguate per Eureka Lott. - Presidentman talk · contribs (Talkback) 20:20, 19 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete - neither of the suggested targets are known by the mononym "Sirish", thus any resulting disambiguation page will only contain partial title matches which the guideline instructs not to include. Dab pages are not search results, we have a search engine for that. Ivanvector (^Talk/_Edits) 16:56, 20 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

  Creating WP:SIAs for given names and surnames is normal practice, and isn't covered under WP:PTM. Cases like this are exactly why {{Given name}} has the "type=both" parameter. - Eureka Lott 01:50, 21 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

• Weak Delete per Ivanvector: the argument for creating a disambiguation is not enough to overcome the reasons for deletion. The disambiguation would be unnecessary anyway. InterstellarGamer12321 (talk | contribs) 19:07, 20 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, CycloneYoris ^talk! 08:06, 27 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

• Setindexify per above. At least in this scenario, Allu Sirish does not show up in the search drop-down and Sirish Gurung shows up far down the search results. A set index page is standard practice and a better bet. J947 † ^edits 00:20, 29 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
• Setindexify as given name exactly per J947. Verified that Allu Sirish does not show up in the search drop-down, although it is the topmost result in the search results! I don't know if this is a bug or a limitation of our search tool, but this is just to counter SmokeyJoe's claim that the search engine is doing its job. I use the Default (and recommended) search mode. I also tried the Strict, Redirect and Classic prefix search modes, with same results. Also tried the search after logging out, which I guess defaults to the Default search mode. Jay 💬 07:31, 5 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

  The drop down list should not be confused with search results. The drop down list is an auto completion tool with tolerances for misspellings. “Allu” doesn’t show up becuase it has no spelling similarity to “Sirish”. Creating redirects to cover over the clumsiness of the drop down suggestions doesn’t seem to me to be a good idea. SmokeyJoe (talk) 11:34, 5 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

  I did compare them, but was not confused between them. Mine was a response to J947's observation which was about the search drop-down. Typically, when I expect to find something in the drop-down, and don't find it, I assume it won't be found in the search results. We can use the search results only on clicking the magnifier icon, and going to a new page, or if the basic search does not return any result. Jay 💬 12:39, 5 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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The result of the discussion was retarget to List of stars in Hydrus. (non-admin closure) CycloneYoris ^talk! 05:54, 13 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

• Iota Hydri → Hydrus  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
• Kappa Hydri → Hydrus  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
• Lambda Hyi → Hydrus  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
• Lambda Hydri → Hydrus  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
• Mu Hydri → Hydrus  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
• Pi1 Hydri → Hydrus  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
• Pi2 Hydri → Hydrus  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
• Pi Hydri → Hydrus  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
• Sigma Hydri → Hydrus  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
• Tau1 Hydri → Hydrus  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
• Tau2 Hydri → Hydrus  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
• Tau Hydri → Hydrus  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

Even more potentially notable stars that redirect to a constellation instead of the list of stars in Hydrus. π¹ and π² Hyi also cause circular links on the page. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 01:22, 6 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

• Retarget all to List of stars in Hydrus as was done with the stars of Libra in a previous RfD. Just a note that I am the creator of some of these redirects. InterstellarGamer12321 (talk | contribs) 08:24, 6 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

• Retarget all per InterstellarGamer12321. Edward-Woodrow (talk) 13:06, 7 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

• Retarget all to List of stars in Hydrus per precedent RfD --Lenticel ^(talk) 03:15, 9 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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