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The result of the discussion was delete. _signed, Rosguill ^talk 02:04, 13 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

• Employees' Provident Fund (Sri Lanka)) → Employees' Provident Fund (Sri Lanka)  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

Incorrectly PRODded by Chanakal (talk · contribs) with rationale" Implausible typo. I agree, for reasons that should be obvious. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 21:27, 5 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

• I had to look twice - but yes, delete as clutter. Narky Blert (talk) 16:19, 6 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete this obvious error. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 13:20, 7 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete, obvious error. Dan arndt (talk) 04:34, 8 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete - obviously, not sure what I was doing when I created this.--Obi2canibe (talk) 14:54, 12 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was withdrawn by nominator. Quick withdraw after realizing the intent of an edit warring IP. (non-admin closure) Jalen Folf (talk) 20:49, 5 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

• Windows NT 7.0 → Windows NT#Releases  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

Not mentioned as an alternative name in target article. Jalen Folf (talk) 20:48, 5 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was delete both which is consistent with the consensus at the other discussion (because the issue was the comma not the dash) and the comments below. No need to have another full discussion on this. -- Tavix ^(talk) 17:47, 6 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

• Polish-Teutonic War (1308-1309), → Teutonic takeover of Danzig (Gdańsk)  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

Previously deleted at Wikipedia:Redirects_for_discussion/Log/2021_April_14#Frederic_Rene_Coudert,_Jr, (the issue is the trailing comma), but recreated by AnomieBot about a week later. Taking this to RFD instead of G4 so that someone smarter than me can figure out why the bot recreated this. Hog Farm _Talk 20:37, 5 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete per nom. Guessing that the bot recreated it because Polish-Teutonic War (1308–1309), (the same title with an en dash between the dates) also exists. We should delete that, too. - Eureka Lott 20:44, 5 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • That's correct. The bot's edit summary on Special:Diff/1019213358 says as much: "Redirecting to Polish-Teutonic War (1308–1309), because titles with en-dashes are hard to type (and resolving the double redirect to Teutonic takeover of Danzig (Gdańsk))." And yes, if you want AnomieBOT to not recreate the redirect, the way to do that is to delete the corresponding endash redirect too. Anomie⚔ 21:24, 5 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete both per above. If only one goes, we're in for an extended game of circular whac-a-mole. Narky Blert (talk) 16:25, 6 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was procedural close. RfD is not for requesting articles to be created. -- Tavix ^(talk) 18:29, 5 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

• 10,000,000,000 → Orders of magnitude (numbers)#1010  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]

• 100,000,000,000 → Orders of magnitude (numbers)#1011  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]

• 1,000,000,000,000 → Orders of magnitude (numbers)#1012  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

All of these pages should be converted into an article to find something from 10 billion to 10 trillion. 176.88.30.25 (talk) 17:08, 5 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was delete. ✗plicit 13:18, 13 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

• Kutty Sippaigal → Little Soldiers  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

Not mentioned at the target, delete unless a justification can be provided _signed, Rosguill ^talk 17:01, 5 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete: The relationship between the redirect and its target is unclear. ―Susmuffin ^Talk 20:10, 5 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was retarget to List of Greek and Latin roots in English/H. Consensus seems to be unanimous, as participants that were in favor of deletion have concluded that retargeting is the most plausible solution. (non-admin closure) CycloneYoris ^talk! 23:57, 13 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

• Homeo → Homeomorphism  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

This seems like it would be more likely to be a misspelling of "Homo"; in the absence of a clear intended target, I think that deletion is probably the best option. _signed, Rosguill ^talk 16:59, 5 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete We have homeomorphism, homeostasis, homeopathy and homeobox. It appears that none is commonly abbreviated as "homeo". As a dab page for disambiguating between uncommon abbreviations would be ridiculous, the best is to delete. D.Lazard (talk) 17:41, 5 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete: No one would ever search for this. ―Susmuffin ^Talk 20:12, 5 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

  As per my Google search results, "Homeo medicine" (2,74,000 results), "Homeo doctor" (1,03,000 results), "Homeo treatment" (1,88,000), all refer to homeopathy. Jay ^(Talk) 19:55, 8 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete as partial title matches at best. I'm also fine with soft retarget to its wiktionary entry since it is used as a prefix --Lenticel ^(talk) 01:43, 6 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
• @D.Lazard: Just for clarification: "homeo" is not used as an abbreviation; it is commonly used as an adjective in math texts. (e.g. "This proves that the morphism is homeo.") --Puzzlet Chung (talk) 07:01, 6 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep, or maybe retarget to Homeomorphism group, but Homeomorphism as the broader article covers that topic too. Homeo(X) is a reasonably well-established mathematical notation in the field. Examples can be found in a Google Scholar search. I would keep for this reason alone. "Homeo" as a shortening of "homeomorphism" in prose is also attested (example, from math.stackexchange.com), as PuzzletChung suggests, although it is rare. In any case, it's not just a partial title match. Adumbrativus (talk) 09:01, 6 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
• Retarget to List of Greek and Latin roots in English/H, which is what it is. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 13:27, 7 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Good idea. D.Lazard (talk) 14:59, 7 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I'm okay with this Retarget as well --Lenticel ^(talk) 00:10, 8 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

• Retarget: As proposed by Shhhnotsoloud, this is the natural target and is an existing entry on another article so is the appropriate action. — MarkH₂₁^talk 07:40, 12 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was delete. _signed, Rosguill ^talk 02:03, 13 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

• Andrew Pullin → Philadelphia Phillies minor league players  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 
• Martin Beno → Washington Nationals minor league players  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
• Theo Bowe → Cincinnati Reds minor league players  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]

• Matt Klinker → Cincinnati Reds minor league players  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]

• Bill Rheinhart → Cincinnati Reds minor league players  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]

Delete. Fails WP:NBASE. He's also retired now so no chance of playing again. ^{Engr. Smitty Werben} 16:55, 5 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

• Added Beno who last played in 2010. ^{Engr. Smitty Werben} 17:05, 5 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete both per nom. Yes, there's old history, but it's a reflection of how WP:BASEBALL handles minor leaguers and the history is very unlikely to be useful. Neither of these are likely to be notable; this is a standard situation with minor league ballplayer redirects. Hog Farm _Talk 22:09, 5 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
• Added Bowe, who last played in 2015, and Klinker and Rheinhart, who both last played in 2012. ^{Engr. Smitty Werben} 03:40, 6 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was keep. ✗plicit 14:03, 12 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

• The original picante sauce → Pace Foods  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

This feels almost like an ad, especially given that the content at the target supporting the claim that Pace invented "picante sauce" appears very poorly sourced. Delete. _signed, Rosguill ^talk 01:49, 22 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete per nom. Rubbish computer Ping me or leave a message on my talk page 20:36, 22 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
• I don't think the article does make the claim that Pace invented picante sauce, only that he called his salsa Picante Sauce, although I see how that claim can be read from the article. Elsewhere in the article it says the terms salsa and picante sauce are synonyms. In fact it is readily demonstrable that the term long predates 1947. Here is a recipe book (in German) from 1829, and a book in English from 1924. SpinningSpark 15:06, 24 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep. "The Original Picante Sauce" is a Pace product, not a marketing claim. SpinningSpark 18:45, 26 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep as product name. BilledMammal (talk) 00:33, 6 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep, explained in lead. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 13:31, 7 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was keep. ✗plicit 14:01, 12 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

• Going Nowhere (Kings of Leon song) → When You See Yourself  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

Delete. This is the working title of a barely notable or non-notable song. There is brief coverage here and in the band article. —  AjaxSmack  00:33, 29 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep. If there's nonzero coverage, and this couldn't be confused with anything else (basically a given since there's a qualifier), then there's nothing gained, and potentially something lost, by deleting it. Redirects are cheap. -- Tamzin^{[cetacean needed]} (she/they) 15:19, 6 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep. It's already tagged {{R from song}}, which is exactly what that template is for, and is partially categorised. Notability is irrelevant for redirects, it only matters that there is useful info at the target - and in this case there is. Narky Blert (talk) 16:31, 6 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep, no policy reason to delete. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 13:33, 7 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was delete. ✗plicit 14:02, 12 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

• Uruemqi Diwopu Airport → Ürümqi Diwopu International Airport  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]

• Uruemci → Ürümqi  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

I must have missed these ones before. Regardless of whether Chinese does ü → ue or not, it definitely doesn't do it for one ü but not the other. This was caused by Eubot ignoring capital letters. HotdogPi 11:47, 28 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

• Comment: Should we add Uruemqi City to this discussion too? —Mx. Granger (talk · contribs) 10:50, 29 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete both as implausible. Rubbish computer Ping me or leave a message on my talk page 10:24, 5 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete: No one would use these search terms. ―Susmuffin ^Talk 20:13, 5 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete all per above. FYI I have added Uruemqi City to this RFD. - CHAMPION ^{(talk) (contributions) (logs)} 04:06, 7 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was withdraw former name for 2 years is a viable enough search term.. TonyBallioni (talk) 05:50, 5 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

• UNC-Raleigh → North Carolina State University  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

Made up name that no one uses; is not a search term that would help the reader. If anything, a red link would be useful to let people know that there isn't a UNC-Raleigh. TonyBallioni (talk) 05:38, 5 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was speedy delete. WP:R3. I fail to see the claim that this would mess up page history. Neither page has any meaningful history whatsoever SpinningSpark 14:53, 5 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

• List of British gallantry awards for the War in Afghanistan List of British gallantry awards for the War in Afghanistan (2001–2021) → List of British gallantry awards for the War in Afghanistan (2001–2021)  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

• List of British gallantry awards for the War in Afghanistan List of British gallantry awards for the War in Afghanistan (2001-2021) → List of British gallantry awards for the War in Afghanistan (2001–2021)  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]

Implausible typo created by a page move - but as the article was only at this title for about a week, I don't think deletion would be too harmful here. Elli (talk | contribs) 04:29, 5 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

• Comment . Here it was asserted that this "does not qualify for suppression, per WP:R3, as it would mess up the history of the page". Still, the common sense suggests deletion. Brandmeister^talk 07:01, 5 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was delete. _signed, Rosguill ^talk 02:02, 13 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

• Scott McGee → McDonald's legal cases#Discrimination  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

According to the sources cited the plaintiff's surname is Magee, not McGee. I doubt many people look for information about a lawsuit by typing the plaintiff's (misspelled) name, and I bet those who type it are much more likely to be looking for Scott McGhee or Scott McGehee. But since AFAIK we don't create dab pages where none of the links listed match the page name, and searching for "Scott McGee" reveals there are lots of (non-notable) Scott McGees out there, leaving this a red link is the best option AFAICS. Nardog (talk) 04:28, 5 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete: We do not need to have redirects for every possible misspelling of a non-notable person's name. ―Susmuffin ^Talk 20:15, 5 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete as implausible misspelling at best --Lenticel ^(talk) 03:54, 6 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
• Not sure about y'all, but at least where I'm from (the Northeastern U.S.), "McGee" and "Magee" are pronounced the same way /məˈgiː/. So this isn't so much a typo as a plausible mishearing. Looking through the search results, I don't see any Scotts McGee with nearly as much coverage as Mr. Magee. (And I do see a mention at Drive-through that is actually referring to Magee... I'll fix that in a sec, but I note it further establishes this as a plausible error.) Normally I'd say "let the search results handle it", but in this case the search results won't show the current target, so I'm left in the keep camp. Do we ever do, like, hatnotes to search results? I could see a case for something like that. -- Tamzin^{[cetacean needed]} (she/they) 15:31, 6 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

  But, again, there are also Scott McGhee and Scott McGehee, who have their own articles. I have to imagine more people type "Scott McGee" to learn about either of them than to learn about the lawsuit. Btw the only extant link to the redirect under discussion was a typo for McGhee. Nardog (talk) 09:43, 7 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete. Even per Tamzin's reasoning above, this does not alleviate the ambiguity between Scott Magee, Scott McGhee, and Scott McGehee. This one is best left for the search results. ✗plicit 14:05, 12 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was delete. ✗plicit 13:56, 12 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

• Arrest of Tianna Arata → George Floyd protests in California#San Luis Obispo County  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

Delete redirect. An article was created on the named individual, who was accused (but not yet convicted) in participating in protests. The content was transferred to George Floyd protests in San Luis Obispo County, California, leaving a redirect. I removed the content from the larger article in accordance with our BLP policies, [1], an action which was supported at the BLP noticeboard. [2] As there is no mention of the protester in the remaining article, the residual redirect should be deleted. Kablammo (talk) 21:46, 28 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete: This person is not mentioned in the target article. ―Susmuffin ^Talk 23:54, 28 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete. Too soon. Jay ^(Talk) 20:00, 8 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was delete. ✗plicit 13:56, 12 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

• God Save the Queen (Motoerhead single) → God Save the Queen (Sex Pistols song)  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]

• Better Motoerhead than Dead → Better Motörhead than Dead: Live at Hammersmith  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]

• Eat The Rich (Motoerhead song) → Eat the Rich (Motörhead song)  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

Another heavy metal Eubot redirect. HotdogPi 00:07, 5 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete: These redirects are mutilated in a way that would never be used. ―Susmuffin ^Talk 20:19, 5 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete per noem. To add oento Susmuffin's poeint, these redirects doen't seem to be getting very many pageviews noewadays, especially since people moest likely woen't pronounce it like the redirects imply. Regards, SOENIC⁶⁷⁸ 21:44, 5 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete. Improbable typos, with very few views. BilledMammal (talk) 00:31, 6 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete per above --Lenticel ^(talk) 01:40, 6 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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