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The result of the discussion was retarget to Wikipedia:Secure server. _signed, Rosguill ^talk 21:47, 26 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

• Secure.wikimedia.org → Wikimedia Foundation  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

The site redirects to www.wikimedia.org, and is not mentioned at the target. 𝟙𝟤𝟯𝟺𝐪𝑤𝒆𝓇𝟷𝟮𝟥𝟜𝓺𝔴𝕖𝖗𝟰 (𝗍𝗮𝘭𝙠) 22:55, 18 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

• This used to be the address for accessing the site with a secure connection before the site migrated to https in 2011, see Wikipedia:Secure server. 86.23.109.101 (talk) 23:01, 18 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
• Retarget to Wikipedia:Secure server. It seems a much better target. 174.212.223.33 (talk) 02:16, 19 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
• Retarget per both IPs above. CycloneYoris ^talk! 00:33, 26 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was retarget to Darxon. (non-admin closure) CycloneYoris ^talk! 00:31, 26 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

• Jens Frank → Wikimedia Foundation#Volunteer committees and positions  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

Not mentioned at target. According to Darxon, this is also a guitarist. 𝟙𝟤𝟯𝟺𝐪𝑤𝒆𝓇𝟷𝟮𝟥𝟜𝓺𝔴𝕖𝖗𝟰 (𝗍𝗮𝘭𝙠) 22:50, 18 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

• Retarget to Darxon as the name of one of the members. This seems to be the only Jens Frank we have a mention of. 86.23.109.101 (talk) 23:12, 18 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was delete. _signed, Rosguill ^talk 00:51, 26 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

• Domas Mituzas → Wikimedia Foundation#Volunteer committees and positions  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

Not mentioned at target, nor anywhere else on Wikipedia. 𝟙𝟤𝟯𝟺𝐪𝑤𝒆𝓇𝟷𝟮𝟥𝟜𝓺𝔴𝕖𝖗𝟰 (𝗍𝗮𝘭𝙠) 22:48, 18 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete per nom, not mentioned anywhere. 86.23.109.101 (talk) 23:07, 18 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was retarget to Wikipedia:Meta. (non-admin closure) CycloneYoris ^talk! 00:30, 26 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

• Wikipedia:Metawikipedia → Wikimedia Foundation#Projects  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

Meta-Wiki actually has its own article, but this should probably go to Wikipedia:Meta as it is in project space. 𝟙𝟤𝟯𝟺𝐪𝑤𝒆𝓇𝟷𝟮𝟥𝟜𝓺𝔴𝕖𝖗𝟰 (𝗍𝗮𝘭𝙠) 22:31, 18 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

• Retarget to Wikipedia:Meta per nom, to avoid an unexpected cross namespace redirect. 86.23.109.101 (talk) 23:04, 18 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was delete. I'm happy to restore if a relevant article is created or recreated. Any other admin should feel free to do so as well without consulting me. --BDD (talk) 15:55, 4 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

• Save command → File manager  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

Redirect not mentioned in target. Aasim (talk) 19:34, 11 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

• delete. Persistence (computer science) is the closest thing we seem to have to an article about the concept of saving in terms of computers, but that article is way too technical to be at all useful as a target of a search term is general as this. Thryduulf (talk) 19:58, 11 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
• Comment: The original redirect was to Computer file management, which did mention file save functionality, but was essentially a dictionary definition, with an additional section on file hierarchy. This target article was then cut down by section blanking, tagged as a stub, then redirected without discussion to File manager in 2014 (this was claimed to be a merge to File manager and Directory structure but this is questionable as no content appears to have been transferred and there is no link in the new target articles to maintain page history attribution, so it seems to have been an undiscussed redirect). --Canley (talk) 20:54, 11 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

• Comment - This might be the wrong framing of this discussion. The former target article could warrant restoration given its conversion to a redirect was undiscussed, which would be beyond the scope of this RfD. Additionally, "Save command" or something similar could even be its own article. Persistence (computer science) hardly seems sufficient for such a ubiquitous concept as a save option or button. Note that in terms of common software/hardware functionalities, we have articles for Reset button, Like button, and even Hamburger button. An article for "save button" or "save function" would be the ideal redirect target for this, or else the expansion of this redirect to an article. I am fairly sure there are a wealth of sources on the subject of save functionality in computing. BlackholeWA (talk) 08:39, 25 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete to encourage article creation. I don't think that restoring the former target is much of an improvement over the current target, but an article about the redirect itself (or "button", "function" etc. per BlackholeWA) is likely appropriate. _signed, Rosguill ^talk 18:05, 3 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was delete. _signed, Rosguill ^talk 00:50, 26 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

• Frist Indian War of Independence → Indian Rebellion of 1857  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

Delete Unlikely typo. How unlikely? This is the only redirect that starts with this misspelling. UnitedStatesian (talk) 20:34, 18 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete Implausible search term. --Un assiolo (talk) 10:22, 19 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete per nom. 🐔 Chicdat  ^{Bawk to me!} 12:00, 19 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was delete. Plastikspork _―Œ^(talk) 14:20, 2 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

• Template:Editnotice U.S. House elections → Template:Use mdy dates editnotice  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]

• Template:Editnotice U.S. Senate elections → Template:Use mdy dates editnotice  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

These redirects should be deleted. They are unused (I bypassed the ~10 transclusions) and add more maintinence work for no benefit. Elliot321 (talk | contribs) 20:31, 18 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete both. Not helpful redirects. If these were intended to be edit notices for a specific page then they have the wrong format (they should be Template:Editnotices/Page/...) and as a redirect they are misleading. A template for edit notices relating to the US election should contain information specific to the US election, not just "Use American style dates". 86.23.109.101 (talk) 16:09, 19 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was delete. _signed, Rosguill ^talk 00:50, 26 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

• New immune cell (2020) → List of unproven and disproven cancer treatments#Possible cures based on immune cells and t-cells  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

Delete Does not appear in the target article; in fact the targeted section is nonexistent as well. Very unlikely external search term. UnitedStatesian (talk) 20:29, 18 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete. Not a plausible search term so not a useful redirect. The page history contains a one line article that basically repeats the headline of a news article that would not survive an AfD nomination and could probably have been A10'd. 86.23.109.101 (talk) 20:43, 18 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete per IP. --Un assiolo (talk) 10:24, 19 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was delete. --BDD (talk) 15:53, 4 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

• Listy → List  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

Not mentioned at the target, delete unless a justification can be provided. _signed, Rosguill ^talk 16:50, 9 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

• It should be there because it is a typo of "List" or "Lists", both of which redirect to the page. Globg 16:53, 9 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete, implausible typo. Listy is not more likely than Lista, Listb, Listc etc. Lennart97 (talk) 16:58, 9 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

  Keep based on comment below. Not a very likely search term, but not necessarily implausible either, going by the wiktionary entry. Lennart97 (talk) 17:45, 9 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

• Comment Wiktionary has a quoted entry which describes it as "Resembling or characteristic of a list, or tending to use lists", so this appears to be a rarely used word, not just a typo. 86.23.109.101 (talk) 17:05, 9 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete. The redirect should not go to the current target and I don't think it's used enough to justify a soft redirect to wikt. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 17:47, 9 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
• One other reason why this article should be kept is because of the other redirect, Listy of films about 9/11, which redirects to the same article as List of films about 9/11. Since that one was approved, this should be, also. Globg 18:24, 9 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

  By approved, do you mean "it exists" or "it was nominated at RfD and kept"? If the latter, it would be helpful if you can link to it. If the former, that's basically WP:WHATABOUTX and not a valid argument. And for what it's worth, while I've voted keep on this one based on the wiktionary definition, I'd definitely vote delete on Listy of films about 9/11. Lennart97 (talk) 18:41, 9 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

  @Lennart97 and Globg: Listy of films about 9/11 is currently at RfD - see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2021 February 14#Listy of films about 9/11. It was nominated by Hog Farm and at the time of writing this comment has received two !votes - Eureka Lott and 86.23.109.101 both recommend deletion. Accordingly it is definitely incorrect to say it is "approved". Thryduulf (talk) 11:07, 19 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete. The OED defines listy as an obsolete adjective meaning "Pleasant, delightful. Also, pleased or willing to do something; hence, ready, quick." - Eureka Lott 21:44, 9 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete changing my vote yet again, sorry. This time per Eureka Lott's comment, as list-related is apparently not the only definition/use of listy. (Maybe it would be good to add this second definition at wikt:listy?) Lennart97 (talk) 11:14, 19 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

• FWIW, that's the only definition of the term in the OED. It doesn't recognize the definition that's included in Wiktionary. - Eureka Lott 14:54, 19 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

• The definition at Wiktionary doesn't seem very well sourced (someone saying "I'm not a 'listy' type of person" one time in 1999 doesn't make this a word, plus even they use quotation marks around the term, which would indicate it's not in common use). The only source I can find using this definition is Wordnik, who have copied it directly from Wiktionary (they also list "strong; powerful" as a definition, from the Century Dictionary). I would propose deleting the redirect and also the Wiktionary entry, unless there is some better sourcing. --Bangalamania (talk) 22:52, 19 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was Restore article without prejudice to AfD _signed, Rosguill ^talk 21:45, 26 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

• Fear on wheels → The Hardy Boys  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 
• Fear on Wheels → The Hardy Boys  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

Not describe at target. There is a mention at List of Hardy Boys books; however, that hyperlinks all of the books, which (if left like that) would be an argument for deletion to avoid circular linking. 𝟙𝟤𝟯𝟺𝐪𝑤𝒆𝓇𝟷𝟮𝟥𝟜𝓺𝔴𝕖𝖗𝟰 (𝗍𝗮𝘭𝙠) 14:22, 9 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

• Restore the article in the page history of Fear on Wheels without prejudice for an AfD nomination. There was an article at this title from 2005 until late 2019, and while I haven't had any luck turning up online sources it is likely given the date of publication (1991) that most contemporary coverage will be in print. Someone with newspapers.com access or similar might be able to turn up a few reviews. 86.23.109.101 (talk) 14:35, 9 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
• Restore without prejudice to AfD per above. The only other use relates to a team of obstacle course racers that includes at least one person in a wheelchair, but there is no mention of them anywhere on Wikipedia that I can find. Thryduulf (talk) 15:00, 9 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

• I thought we had consensus. 𝟙𝟤𝟯𝟺𝐪𝑤𝒆𝓇𝟷𝟮𝟥𝟜𝓺𝔴𝕖𝖗𝟰 (𝗍𝗮𝘭𝙠) 13:20, 19 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was delete. _signed, Rosguill ^talk 00:43, 26 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

• Headquarters of the United States meditation room → Headquarters of the United Nations meditation room  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

I would have put this up for CSD, but it doesn't quite fit the criteria, so I'm playing it safe. Anyway, this redirect was created as the result of a typo: the page is about the United Nations meditation room, but the page creator typed "United States" by accident; another user noticed and moved it to the correct title, leaving us with this redirect as a result. But this redirect is of little value, as it is does not reflect a very plausible or natural search term— just an absent-minded mistake. I corrected the single link that was pointing here, as well, leaving it orphaned. — Kawnhr (talk) 18:53, 18 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete. There's nothing in the united states with this name as far as I can tell, and "United Nations" → "United States" is not a plausible typo. 86.23.109.101 (talk) 23:24, 18 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
• Speedy delete per WP:G6. --Un assiolo (talk) 10:31, 19 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was delete. _signed, Rosguill ^talk 00:43, 26 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

• List of Films That Use Tracking Shots → Dolly zoom  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

Like the one below, not mentioned and at wrong location, also weird capitalisation. Dominicmgm (talk) 18:13, 18 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete No list is provided, and tracking shots are not mentioned at the target. ―NK1406 ^{talk•contribs} 01:55, 19 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete. Such a list, if it existed, would be indiscriminate, given the wide use of this technique. BD2412 T 03:33, 20 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was delete. _signed, Rosguill ^talk 00:43, 26 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

• List of films that use tracking shots → Dolly zoom  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

Not mentioned at the target article and isn't at the correct location (Tracking shot) where it also isn't mentioned. Dominicmgm (talk) 18:10, 18 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete No list is provided, and tracking shots are not mentioned at the target. ―NK1406 ^{talk•contribs} 01:55, 19 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete. Such a list, if it existed, would be indiscriminate, given the wide use of this technique. BD2412 T 03:33, 20 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was delete. _signed, Rosguill ^talk 00:43, 26 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

• List of films that use dolly zoom → Dolly zoom  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

No such list exists on the target article. Dominicmgm (talk) 18:09, 18 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete No list is provided. The redirect is misleading. ―NK1406 ^{talk•contribs} 01:55, 19 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete. Such a list, if it existed, would be indiscriminate, given the wide use of this technique. BD2412 T 03:33, 20 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was Retarget the first and keep the second as is. (non-admin closure) CycloneYoris ^talk! 00:19, 26 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

• Extinct animal → Extinction  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]

• Extinct animals → Lists of extinct animals  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

These two redirects should probably target the same article as one is just the plural of the other. I would suggest that the list article is the better target since it's specifically about animals. 86.23.109.101 (talk) 13:25, 18 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

• Retarget to the list per nom. No reason for these to target different places and the list is more likely to be helpful. Thryduulf (talk) 13:47, 18 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
• Retarget to the list per above. --Un assiolo (talk) 10:44, 19 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
• Retarget to the list - this would be more logical.Less Unless (talk) 10:08, 20 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was retarget to Lists of prehistoric animals. _signed, Rosguill ^talk 21:43, 26 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

• Prehistoric animal → Prehistory  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

• Prehistoric animals → Prehistory  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]

No mention in article 🌸 1.Ayana 🌸 (talk) 11:09, 18 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

• Retarget to Paleontology. – Joe (talk) 12:06, 18 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
• Note I've added Prehistoric animals to this discussion. Thryduulf (talk) 12:33, 18 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
• Listify. We have various lists of prehistoric animals, see Category:Lists of prehistoric animals and special:prefixindex/List of prehistoric but no index list that I can find. Creating one, that included a link to Palaeontology and Prehistory would be best here I think. Thryduulf (talk) 12:33, 18 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
• Create Lists of prehistoric animals and retarget these to it per thryduulf. It might be worth adding a hatnote to Lists of extinct animals. 86.23.109.101 (talk) 13:21, 18 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
• Absolutely create Lists of prehistoric animals and retarget. I am stunned to learn that there is not already such a list. BD2412 T 03:34, 20 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
• Note I have now created Lists of prehistoric animals but it needs much improvement work. Thryduulf (talk) 19:58, 26 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was delete. _signed, Rosguill ^talk 00:41, 26 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

• Operation Freedom Falcon → 2011 military intervention in Libya#Operation names  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

"Operation Freedom Falcon" is not mentioned at the target, and hasn't been since 2013. Delete because without an authoritative mention it is easily confused with Operation Falcon Freedom. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 09:27, 18 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was delete. --BDD (talk) 16:23, 26 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

• Thomas & Friends (series 25) → List of Thomas & Friends episodes  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

There is no series 25 of Thomas & Friends as series 24 is confirmed by Mattel to be the final series of the television program. "Series 25" is likely to be an incorrect referral to the reboot of Thomas & Friends now titled Thomas & Friends: All Engines Go!. Eyesnore 02:30, 18 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Note: a press release dated October 2020 shows that the reboot is originally going to be season 25 of Thomas & Friends. It is later confirmed to be a separate television series. Eyesnore 02:37, 18 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete as a failed WP:CRYSTAL redirect. Dominicmgm (talk) 12:35, 18 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was delete. _signed, Rosguill ^talk 00:40, 26 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

• Ari (singer) → Ariana Grande  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

I'm not sure Ariana Grande is the primary topic for this (though some people might know her as such), as Ivanvector argued in that trainwrecked nomination two weeks ago; there's also Ari Ólafsson, Ari Leff, Ari Lennox, and a bunch of other singers, but none of them seem to go by the mononym "Ari," so I'm not sure about retargeting to Ari (given name). Delete this or retarget wherever appropriate unless a justification can be provided. Regards, SONIC⁶⁷⁸ 01:18, 18 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete as it is an implausible search term. D🐶ggy54321 ^{(let's chat!)} 01:24, 18 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete. Not worth the trouble, the disambiguation makes it unlikely to be searched for anyway. -- Tavix ^(talk) 01:45, 18 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete. This is potentially ambiguous and the target article doesn't say she is known by this mononym. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 09:49, 18 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete If there were any singers known mononymously as Ari this would (contra Tavix) make a it a very likely search term. However as there do not appear to be any such people it is not a useful redirect. Thryduulf (talk) 12:41, 18 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete. My first thought was to redirect to Ari (name), but that page doesn't actually mention Ariana Grande (or anyone else for whom "Ari" is a nickname, rather than a given name). BD2412 T 03:36, 20 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete and let the search engine handle it. There are a few singers listed under Ari (name)#People named Ari but I think it's more likely that someone looking for one of those individuals would know their full name. Ivanvector (^Talk/_Edits) 00:36, 25 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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