Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2020 March 1

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The result of the discussion was delete. Anyone should feel free to write the article when ready. --BDD (talk) 01:22, 9 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

• Matt Tong → Bloc Party  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

Matt Tong was the lead drummer of Bloc Party. He is now the lead drummer of Algiers. Should Matt Tong continue to redirect to Bloc Party, considering the Bloc Party article does not mention Algiers at all?  Bait30  ^Talk? 20:22, 23 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

• Comment A quick search suggests he might just about meet WP:GNG and qualify for an article himself. That would send the WP:XY problem away, if anybody wants to put the work in... --kingboyk (talk) 20:30, 23 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Bait30: Yay, you found your way to RfD this time. I have no opinion on the subject redirect as of yet. ;-) Doug Mehus T·C 20:35, 23 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Kingboyk: If that's the case, should we "delete" per WP:R#D10 for redlinks to encourage article creation? ;-) Doug Mehus T·C 20:36, 23 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Dmehus: That might be a reasonable suggestion; a better idea would be stop pontificating at XfDs and go and write an article on this chap yourself! :P --kingboyk (talk) 20:42, 23 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

• Write the article. A couple of searches turned up enough to suggest he might get through WP:NBIO. Narky Blert (talk) 23:06, 23 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Narky Blert But if the article isn't written by the time this closes, for clarity, you would support deletion? Otherwise, the creator (an IP address no less!) of this stinking redirect will get article creation credit! ;-) Doug Mehus T·C 23:17, 23 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Dmehus: Definitely not. He's mentioned in Algiers, and retargetting there as {{R with possibilities}} would be an alternative solution to mine.

Who cares who the creator was? I've seen articles which were started by notorious socks but have been kept.

I don't have the time or inclination to work on this article: he's out of my field, and I'm currently working my way through some one hundred citations I have bookmarked on a notable person to get rid of the derivative ones which add nothing. How about you? Narky Blert (talk) 23:37, 23 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete per Narky Blert to encourage people create an article. --Soumyabrata (talk • subpages) 17:50, 2 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was keep. _signed, Rosguill ^talk 23:26, 8 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

• Hot Girlz → Hot Girl  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

None of the entries at the disambiguation page is known as "Hot Girlz". Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 13:03, 23 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete. Not mentioned anywhere in WP so far as I can see (except in the edit history of Hot Girl, as nom will know). Narky Blert (talk) 13:11, 23 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep as {{R from misspelling}}. it's harmless and potentially useful. Doug Mehus T·C 18:10, 23 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep per Doug Mehus. --Soumyabrata (talk • subpages) 17:48, 2 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep - I agree. I should also note that 'Hot Girls' doesn't go to 'Hot Girl'. We might need to fix that right after this? CoffeeWithMarkets (talk) 23:01, 4 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was retarget to Opposition to trade unions. _signed, Rosguill ^talk 23:26, 8 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

• Anti-labor → Labour movement  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

Total surprise for me personally, and probably for others. I was expecting a page describing criticism of the labor movement and attempts to undermine labor unions. Not this. This redirect should be either retargeted or deleted.  — Mr. Guye (talk) (contribs)  02:50, 23 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete for now. Let the editors be encouraged to create an article describing criticism of the labor movement. --Soumyabrata (talk • subpages) 07:07, 23 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete per Wikipedia:Redirect/Deletion reasons#D10. I too cannot find any appropriate target, and in the absence of one, a red link is better. Glades12 (talk) 12:52, 23 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]
• Retarget to Opposition to trade unions. I think that's what we're looking for. --BDD (talk) 20:41, 28 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]
• Retarget, as BDD, to Opposition to trade unions.--Goldsztajn (talk) 22:31, 29 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]
• Retarget per BDD and Goldsztajn. Yep, that topic will work. I figured we'd had to have a suitable topic for this redirect. Doug Mehus T·C 20:32, 1 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

• Retarget per BDD. --Soumyabrata (talk • subpages) 17:52, 2 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was restore article. _signed, Rosguill ^talk 23:24, 8 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

• Romance-speaking Africa → United States of Latin Africa  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

• Romance-speaking African countries → United States of Latin Africa  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]

The first redirect was initially created as an article listing the countries in Africa where a Romance language was spoken, but that got nominated for deletion and the outcome of the discussion was for it to be redirected to the current target. The target is not an appropriate one at all as its topic is an obscure former proposed union of countries that encompasses only a fraction of the Romance-speaking part of Africa. I can't seem to find a suitable target though: there doesn't seem to be a place on wikipedia that explicitly lists the territories of Africa where a Romance language is used, and I'm not keen on the idea of say, rewriting Languages of Africa for the convenience of users of this redirect. If a suitable target isn't found, then the redirect should either be deleted or restored as an article. Pings to participants in the previous discussion: Underlying lk, Robofish, Spumuq, Black Kite. – Uanfala (talk) 19:07, 1 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

• Weak retarget to Romance languages#Modern status (note that we'd want to remove the hatnote there to Romance-speaking Africa). It does not give an explicit list, but it seems a reasonable enough target. --BDD (talk) 00:52, 3 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
• Restore the previous article, which served as a decent overview of Romance languages in Africa (with a nice map!). I agree the current target is not appropriate at all, and I'm a bit disappointed that the result of the AfD was called the way it was. -- Tavix ^(talk) 02:25, 3 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
• Restore article per Tavix. It gives a useful overview. As the map shows, Romance languages are spoken over half the continent; the current redirect is hopelessly inaccurate. I was surprised the AFD was closed the way it was. Narky Blert (talk) 08:57, 3 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was delete. _signed, Rosguill ^talk 23:24, 8 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

• Antebellum peiod → Antebellum South  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

Misspelling / typo error. Unlikely search term, since the correct spelling already exists (Antebellum period). Senator2029 “Talk” 16:16, 1 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete. Unnecessary clutter - anyone typing as far as "antebellum pe" will find what they want. Narky Blert (talk) 16:48, 1 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete - Dropping the r is implausible, as supported by 24 pageviews. Hog Farm (talk) 14:10, 2 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was speedy deleted per G7 by Cryptic. -- Tavix ^(talk) 17:31, 1 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

• Subaru Stela electric → TargetArticle  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

This redirect should be deleted as it was created by me 10 minutes ago with a typo/misspelling. I have moved the redir to the correct spelling; but this erroneous REDIR got created in the process. N2e (talk) 11:54, 1 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was retarget to History of colonialism. _signed, Rosguill ^talk 23:23, 8 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

• European colonization → History of colonialism  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]

• European colonial era → Colonialism  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]

• European colonies → Colonialism  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

I can't tell whether their targets are the correct and intended targets for most readers. They could mean one same target, another same target, or other respective targets. Alternative targets are "Analysis of Western European colonialism and colonization", "List of former European colonies", etc. George Ho (talk) 09:15, 1 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

• Target/retarget all to History of colonialism, as with European imperialism, below. Narky Blert (talk) 09:54, 1 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
• Retarget to History of colonialism. Polyamorph (talk) 14:03, 1 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was retarget to TS2. Consensus was very clear, so closing early, with the rcats recommended by Narky Blert, per WP:SNOW. (non-admin closure) Doug Mehus T·C 03:22, 3 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

• Ts2 → Toy Story 2  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

Two potential targets at least, neither mentioned "Ts2" as an alternative title. Geraldo Perez (talk) 06:12, 1 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

• Retarget to The Sims 2; it's commonly used as a shortening of that. TheAwesomeHwyh 06:34, 1 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
• Retarget to the disambiguation page TS2. SpicyMilkBoy (talk) 07:09, 1 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
• retarget to the disambiguation page -- 65.94.171.6 (talk) 08:02, 1 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
• Retarget to the DAB page TS2 as {{R from other capitalisation}} {{R from ambiguous term}}. For a similar case, see IoT. Narky Blert (talk) 09:15, 1 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
• Target to dab as per above. J947 ^(c), at 22:03, 1 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
• Retarget to the dab page. Hog Farm (talk) 14:09, 2 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
• Retarget to TS2 per above --Lenticel ^(talk) 03:17, 3 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was delete. _signed, Rosguill ^talk 23:19, 8 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

• The Most Annoying Thing in the Universe → Crazy Frog  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

Too broad; could refer to any number of things, as this doesn't seem to exclusively refer to it's target. TheAwesomeHwyh 02:29, 1 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete, This was almost 15 years ago when I didn't know better. The Pony Toast 🍞 (Talk) 22:04, 1 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete Annoying as it is, I see nothing to support the contention that Crazy Frog is the "The Most Annoying Thing in the Universe". Hzh (talk) 12:22, 2 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was delete. _signed, Rosguill ^talk 23:19, 8 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

• One world, one language → Language death  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

The phrase is apparently one possible English translation of the Volapük Menade bal – püki bal, a motto apparently associated with the philosophy of that constructed language. But it's also a motto associated with other undertakings (as revealed by the search results), and to most readers it would probably hearken to the general concept of a universal language instead (itself not to be confused with world language). That's all too vague and confusing to keep. – Uanfala (talk) 01:54, 1 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was retarget to History of colonialism. (non-admin closure) feminist (talk) 04:44, 8 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

• White imperialism → Cultural imperialism  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

I can't be too sure about whether "white imperialism" and "cultural imperialism" are interchangeable with each other. I thought "cultural" is too broad to refer to "white". I can believe that, if kept, "white imperialism" should be redirected to either Settler colonialism, History of colonialism, or somewhere based on search results at Google Books and Google News. George Ho (talk) 00:18, 1 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

• Comment White supremacy would seem to be the target to use (or imperialism) -- 65.94.171.6 (talk) 08:06, 1 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
• Retarget to History of colonialism, which mentions the five main European imperial powers in the lede. White imperialism involves more than either culture or settlement. It is different from White supremacy, which includes e.g. the domestic history of the United States. Narky Blert (talk) 09:28, 1 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
• Retarget per Narky Blert. I think History of colonialism should be sufficiently broad enough to cover what it is conveyed by the term white imperialism. White supremacy is too narrow of a topic, so that wouldn't work. Imperialism, as suggested by 65.94.171.6 is far too broad as conquering foreign lands was not unique to Caucasian races. Doug Mehus T·C 00:29, 2 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was delete. _signed, Rosguill ^talk 23:18, 8 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

• James Edwin McTeer → Hoodoo (folk magic)  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

There is no mention of the subject of this redirect at the target, so the connection is unclear. -- Tavix ^(talk) 00:03, 1 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete. The only mention I can find in WP is in List of South Carolina Scenic Byways; a bridge was named after someone of that name; but that does not look like a suitable target. At least three people have borne that exact name; that one may be the onetime sheriff of Beaufort County, South Carolina (non-WP:RS source, Find a Grave). The hoodoo connection may be explained here, in an interview with his grandson (who shares his name). Narky Blert (talk) 09:42, 1 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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