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The result of the discussion was delete. _signed, Rosguill ^talk 20:27, 24 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

• Lotsham and Sharchop language → Nepali language  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

This started out as an unsourced 2-sentence-long stub in 2017 [1], but was then quickly redirected. I'm not sure what to make of it, the Lhotshampa indeed speak Nepali, but the Sharchop language language is a completely different entity. – Uanfala (talk) 21:52, 15 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete as WP:XY. Narky Blert (talk) 14:46, 16 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was Delete all except for the {{R from book}} identified by Steel1943. _signed, Rosguill ^talk 20:27, 24 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

• How to tie-dye → Tie-dye  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

• How to Conduct an Election by the Single Transferable Vote → Electoral Reform Society  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

• How to conduct an election by the single transferable vote → Electoral Reform Society  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

• Tips on contributing to Wikipedia → Wikipedia:Contributing to Wikipedia  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

• Tips on reducing water pollution → Water pollution  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

• Tips for getting hired → Job interview  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

• Tips for Taking Better Digital Pictures → Digital photography  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

Delete More "how to", Quora-type redirects that we have regularly deleted at other discussions. The one that is a cross namespace redirect does not meet the high bar we have for those. UnitedStatesian (talk) 21:18, 7 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep How to Conduct an Election by the Single Transferable Vote. Apparently, it's a {{R from book}} (as well as a {{R with history}}.) Steel1943 (talk) 14:09, 8 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • ...Also, weak keep How to conduct an election by the single transferable vote as a {{R avoided double redirect}} to How to Conduct an Election by the Single Transferable Vote. Steel1943 (talk) 14:11, 8 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete all per nom (1st choice) or Delete all except those (that is, weak keep to those) mentioned by Steel1943 (2nd choice), though I still think they're quite improbable search terms as they are quite long. Doug Mehus T·C 03:17, 13 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was no consensus. _signed, Rosguill ^talk 20:25, 24 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

• Ccigarette → Cigarette  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

Implausible typo. Hog Farm (talk) 19:16, 15 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete unlikely search term and obvious typo. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 20:51, 15 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete as implausible typo. Narky Blert (talk) 18:03, 16 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]
• Kkeep - plausible typo, unambiguously directs readers to the content they're looking for. WilyD 15:44, 20 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]
• Weak keep per WilyD. It's a less likely typo, and I'm hesitant to keep every possible typo, but it's doing no harm. So, I think this gets a WP:RCHEAP pass. Let's re-evaluate it in a year's time. If, in a year, it gets less than 3 visits per month, then we can probably safely delete it. Doug Mehus T·C 16:24, 20 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

• There is no need to reevaluate a redirect a year from now because several years of page view stats already exist for this redirect. Look at the previous year if that's what you're worried about: In all of 2019, this redirect received 9 page views, which is well under 3/month. Unless, of course, you have a reason to believe this next year will be statistically different from years past? -- Tavix ^(talk) 16:29, 20 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete it does not appear to be a common typo since it doesn’t fit visibly or phonically. I also don’t see any reason to wait year to see if it averages less than three views a month since the redirect was created in 2010 meaning I can’t think of any valid reason as to why this would suddenly become more significantly searched in 2020 because as mentioned this didn’t meet that threshold in 2019.--69.157.252.96 (talk) 04:56, 21 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete No different than ciigarette or cigaarette or cigareette. Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 05:22, 21 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep (edit conflict); there's no point in deleting it, nothing on WP:RfD#DELETE supports a deletion here. It causes no harm and has a fair amount of benefit. J947 ^(c), at 05:29, 21 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete, too implausible. Also delete Cciggarete which is even more implausible. —Xezbeth (talk) 12:06, 21 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]
• Comment To add my two cents, I'm not sure how adding an additional initial letter is an "implausible typo." In my view, WilyD and J947 have the strongest arguments here—it very much is a plausible typo and, as such, there's really been no valid reason, whether policy- or evidence-based, for deletion here. Doug Mehus T·C 16:01, 22 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]
• Ddelete both, as duplicate letters are generally implausible typos and can leave a lot of useless redirects lying around while impeding searches, especially when nothing is properly spelled using such patterns (e.g. nothing I know of begins with Cc). ComplexRational (talk) 17:30, 22 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

ComplexRational True...I guess this is a case where both sides make an equally compelling argument based on the same rationale. I do like how both you and WilyD intentionally added a duplicate initial character to your !votes. Doug Mehus T·C 17:32, 22 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I sort of gather that the "delete" !votes are confusing "tpyos" with "mispellings", certainly 69.X.Y.Z is very explicitly doing that. WilyD 17:35, 22 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was keep. SNOW-fall consensus was very clear that keeping this redirect for Ron Jeremy in inverted name is helpful; however, the R from sortname rcat should be added to make its purpose crystal clear. (non-admin closure) Doug Mehus T·C 15:37, 22 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

• Jeremy, Ron → Ron Jeremy  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

Not a plausible search term. If one would know the first and last names spelt correctly of the target, then they wouldn't place them in this order. Willbb234^Talk (please {{ping}} me in replies) 18:32, 15 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep as a plausible search term and consistent with zillions of others like this. Nb I corrected the error in the nomination by replacing [[:{{{target}}}]] Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 20:50, 15 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

  @Shhhnotsoloud: please give examples/a guideline as I wasn't able to find any evidence myself. Thanks, Willbb234^Talk (please {{ping}} me in replies) 23:00, 15 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

  Lee, Robert is one. This is a fairly common, but not universal redirect convention. Hog Farm (talk) 04:21, 16 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

  Hello @Willbb234: hopefully Steel's comment below helps. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 14:45, 16 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep. {{R from sort name}}. See Category:Redirects from sort names. Steel1943 (talk) 02:43, 16 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep per User:Steel1943. Hog Farm (talk) 04:31, 19 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep - highly plausible search term. Arranging names in this form is a common English-language convention. WilyD 15:42, 20 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep as per convention. J947 ^(c), at 05:30, 21 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was retarget to Carnen Ua Cadhla. There is consensus here, thanks to the nominator, that this subject redirect is a fairly insignificant fictional river in Middle-earth context—insignificant in that it isn't discussed anywhere on Wikipedia. Editor Narky Blert concurred with nominator Hog Farm's assessment such that there was no basis for deletion and, equally so, for keeping. (non-admin closure) Doug Mehus T·C 16:05, 22 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

• Carnen → Middle-earth#Geography  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

Proposing Retarget to Carnen Ua Cadhla. This context is a Middle-earth river, but this river is not discussed in any Middle-earth context on Wikipedia. We have an article about an ancient Irish ruler named Carnen Ua Cadhla, but I'm not familiar enough with Irish naming customs to know if this is a good retarget point. Hog Farm (talk) 16:49, 15 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

• Support retarget. Carnen was his given name. Ua is an old form of the prefix O', meaning 'grandson/descendant of'. Narky Blert (talk) 17:30, 15 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was speedy keep. Technical close. Sorry that my comment at Talk:Agra Lucknow Expressway#Requested move 11 January 2020 led to this proposal. My point was that you don't move redirects; you move articles. So don't propose moving a redirect. And, when an article is moved; all redirects to that article normally follow the move and are automatically retargeted to the new title. This venue is for proposing that redirects get retargeted to a different place, or get deleted, or converted to a disambiguation. None of those possibilites are being proposed here. wbm1058 (talk) 22:27, 16 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

• Amaravati Anantapur Expressway → Amaravati–Anantapur Expressway  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

Per MOS:ENDASH, the parallel discussion at Talk:Agra Lucknow Expressway#Requested move 11 January 2020, and per wbm1058's instruction to list the existing redirects at RfD. At Vatsmaxed's request, I'm listing the eleven redirects at RfD. Seems quite non-controversial, given the guidelines at MOS:ENDASH, so potentially could speedy retarget here. I'd say suppress the redirect, but the existing redirect could be helpful for preventing unilateral page moves. The biggest debate, if any, may be on what Rcats to add to the redirect and target pages Doug Mehus T·C 16:30, 15 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

• Bangalore Mysore Infrastructure Corridor → Bangalore–Mysore Infrastructure Corridor  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]

• Chennai Port Maduravoyal Expressway → Chennai Port–Maduravoyal Expressway  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]

• Delhi Amritsar Katra Expressway → Delhi–Amritsar–Katra Expressway  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]

• Delhi Jaipur Expressway → Delhi–Jaipur Expressway  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]

• Delhi Meerut Expressway → Delhi–Meerut Expressway  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]

• Faridabad Noida Ghaziabad Expressway → Faridabad–Noida–Ghaziabad Expressway  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]

• Nagpur Hyderabad Bengaluru Expressway → Nagpur–Hyderabad–Bengaluru Expressway  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]

• Noida Greater Noida Expressway → Noida–Greater Noida Expressway  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]

• Raipur Bhilai Durg Expressway → Raipur–Bhilai–Durg Expressway  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]

• Raipur Naya Raipur Expressway → Raipur–Naya Raipur Expressway  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]

• Comment Okay, I'm kind of confused now because I'm not quite sure what Vatsmaxed wants done with these redirects, as the target pages are all using en dashes per MOS:ENDASH. I'm inclined to !vote keep to all of these, which could be a speedy keep/nomination withdrawn as the nominator of these redirects, as I think they could all be plausible misspellings. I'll wait to here back from Vatsmaxed, but as I say, until I hear back, I'd say it's a keep/speedy keep. Doug Mehus T·C 17:04, 15 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep. Eh? Of course pages moved from a title with a dash to a title with a dash should leave a redirect behind. I don't really understand why this is here. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 20:47, 15 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

• Comment Dmehus Shhhnotsoloud Sorry for not being more clear over here. Actually as replied in Talk:Agra_Lucknow_Expressway, these redirects were there because they would need to be changed if reverse consensus (reverse of MOS:ENDASH) is established. But thats not the case now, so now definitely I "withdraw nomination". But before this discussion is closed, the discussion at Talk:Agra_Lucknow_Expressway should be closed "ideally". Surely, old redirect names should not be deleted as they are misspellings.... Hope its clear now. Vatsmaxed (talk) 07:46, 16 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was retarget to Listan Prieto. _signed, Rosguill ^talk 20:23, 24 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

• Listán Prieto → Listán negro  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

This redirect from Listán Prieto to Listán negro is incorrect. It should go to page Listán Prieto, but that page has been called 'Listan Prieto'.

So, the redirect needs to go, and then the page 'Listan Prieto' needs to be renamed Listán Prieto. Fpr155 (talk) 16:20, 15 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

• Round-robin swap Listan Prieto and Linstán Prieto Listán Prieto. tagging the former as {{R to diacritics}}. Narky Blert (talk) 17:34, 15 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]
• Retarget to Listan Prieto with {{R from diacritics}}; I don't think this is uncontroversial enough to merit a rename as a result of an RfD. Listán Prieto is not obviously the WP:COMMONNAME per these two searches. Admittedly I don't know what Google does with diacritics, so I may have been mislead by the results. J947 ^(c), at 20:20, 15 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was delete. _signed, Rosguill ^talk 20:21, 24 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

• Physical Review Letters A → Physical Review Letters  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

Delete No such journal exists. This is a confusion between Physical Review A and Physical Review Letters and there's no obvious way to know which was meant. Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 05:20, 15 January 2020 (UTC) Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 05:20, 15 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete per Headbomb--MaoGo (talk) 12:48, 15 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was delete. _signed, Rosguill ^talk 20:21, 24 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

• Black Thorn of Brethil → Middle-earth weapons and armour  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

We don't have information about this weapon at the target page (or anywhere else), and there's no history to save in this redirect, so I don't see this redirect being useful. Hog Farm (talk) 02:33, 15 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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