Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2009 November 12

The result of the discussion was Delete. Ruslik_Zero 15:21, 22 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

• Sara Markovska → Junior Eurovision Song Contest 2009 (links to redirect) (stats) 

deletion, because target article has no content on Sara Markoska Vanjagenije (talk) 17:41, 12 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete as per nom. -- P 1 9 9 • TALK 19:12, 13 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The above is preserved as the archive of an RfD nomination. Please do not modify it.

The result of the discussion was Retarget to {{Dollarsign}}. Ruslik_Zero 09:46, 28 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

• Template:$ → Template:US$ (links to redirect) (stats) 

Deleted at RfD, overturned at DRV because of an unfortunate edit that distorted two comments. The original nomination by Geschichte reads: "This has been deleted before, through TFD, so it has not been deleted as a redirect. It was nominated as something else, then changed to a redirect during the debate, and then deleted. However, I feel that the reasons stated in Wikipedia:Templates for deletion/Log/2009 April 6#Template:$ apply for this redirect as well. There are many types of $, so redirecting to US (or any specific kind of) dollar represents bias (if US dollar: even systemic bias). Either way, it's preferred to specify the type of dollar in article text." The other distorted edit is this objection.[1] Procedural listing, but noting that retargetting to {{Dollarsign}} is a possible alternative. Tikiwont (talk) 09:44, 12 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I've informed the participants of the previous RfD.--Tikiwont (talk) 14:19, 12 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Like it or not, the use of $ without prefix is generally recognized internationally as referring to the US dollar. "Bias" which represents the actual state of affairs in published works is not something which can be eradicated at all, and trying to start with deleting this redirect is beyond WP's policies. It would be akin to searching for every usage of the word "dollar" on WP, and substituting "United States Dollar" as that is exactly what the import wold be. Collect (talk) 11:26, 12 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

• The issue here is one of convenience. WP:CURRENCY mandates that prices are given in US dollars in addition to any applicable local currency so as to provide a convenient frame of reference for the majority of en-WP's native English speakers. As {{$}} was unused, as part of a general cleanup of our currency templates I redirected it to {{USD}}. This makes it trivial to convert existing articles to use the template if they aren't currently formatted, by simply adding in the pipe and angle brackets. This is not a case of "US bias", as this isn't an article: this is completely different to redirecting dollar to US dollar or the like. As for whether to redirect it to {{Dollarsign}}, a future goal is to merge all the currency-specific templates such as {{£}}, {{euro}}, {{yen}} into the unified codebase at {{Dollarsign}}, but that's another matter entirely. Chris Cunningham (not at work) - talk 14:55, 12 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]
• Redirect to {{Dollarsign}}. -- P 1 9 9 • TALK 19:12, 13 November 2009 (UTC) Delete. We should force editors to be specific. (Changed opinion to force a tie-breaker) -- P 1 9 9 • TALK 14:22, 23 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment This is not a vote, it is a discussion and there are no "tie-breaker" votes. I absolutely trust Chris Cunningham on this one because he has been extremely active in cleaning up all sorts of template messes. --Tothwolf (talk) 20:44, 23 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]
    • I know it's not a vote. But we have to come to a resolution. -- P 1 9 9 • TALK 21:14, 23 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]
      • That's why admins are paid the big bucks - to make the hard decision when there is no apparent consensus. 147.70.242.54 (talk) 21:45, 23 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]
        • I thought all admins got was a lousy T-shirt? --Tothwolf (talk) 00:14, 24 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Erm, we should not be "forcing" editors to do anything. making the encyclopedia harder to edit for people who get offended by the use of the term "dollar" to mean "US dollar" is at best a nuisance and at worst an actively harmful precedent. Plus the whole this-not-being-a-vote thing. Chris Cunningham (not at work) - talk 14:06, 26 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete as being excessively biased, per the TfD discussion, or redirect to {{dollarsign}} should it prove to be kept. 76.66.197.2 (talk) 07:08, 14 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

  Erm, rationales? Not a vote, folks. Chris Cunningham (not at work) - talk 12:35, 14 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

  The TFD discussion, - there are statements of why this is biased there. 76.66.197.2 (talk) 06:53, 15 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete per the first discussion. Geschichte (talk) 10:19, 22 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep per Chris Cunningham and redirect or modify later as required when the currency templates are merged and cleaned up. --Tothwolf (talk) 08:30, 23 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

&Keep per my comment and the arguments for keeping raised by others. Collect (talk) 12:07, 23 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

• Retarget to {{dollarsign}} as $ is a dollar sign and the template's documentation discusses all of its uses. 147.70.242.54 (talk) 21:45, 23 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The above is preserved as the archive of an RfD nomination. Please do not modify it.

The result of the discussion was deleted per consensus Skier Dude (talk) 22:51, 21 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

• Media Hound → International Federation of the Phonographic Industry (links to redirect) (stats) 

Delete. Absolutely no information whatsoever about a company of that name on the linked page (and neither was I able to find any sources with Google). Regards, HaeB (talk) 01:19, 12 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete Assiduous searching finds no basis for this redirect at all. Collect (talk) 11:29, 12 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete as per nom. -- P 1 9 9 • TALK 19:12, 13 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete. Just slightly more inventive to create a spam redirect is all. Accounting4Taste:talk 03:21, 20 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The above is preserved as the archive of an RfD nomination. Please do not modify it.