Wikipedia:Possibly unfree files/2015 January 26

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File:Ibrahim Sulayman Muhammad Arbaysh.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs).

• Photograph of monument over 150 years old. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Skodoway (talk • contribs) 18:45, 26 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • This is not a photograph of a monument but a photograph of a person. --Stefan2 (talk) 19:46, 26 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]
• No evidence given that this is exempt from copyright in the country of origin. Stefan2 (talk) 15:56, 26 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Al-Malahem Media is the propaganda arm of an internationally recognized terrorist group. Not only is the material not copyrighted, but why would such a non-existent copyright even be recognized from a terrorist group either in Yemen or internationally? StanMan87 (talk) 05:46, 28 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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File:James Haydock's Grave Monument.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs).

• Invalid PD reason. Stefan2 (talk) 16:00, 26 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]
• PD - monument photographed is over 150 years old. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Skodoway (talk • contribs) 18:47, 26 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • This is not a monoment but a photograph of a monument. The photograph was presumably not taken over 150 years ago. --Stefan2 (talk) 19:46, 26 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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File:Jarvis (rocket) 1986 design.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs).

• It says "This file is in the public domain, because Contractor submission for U.S. Government Proposal". If it was created by a contractor, then {{PD-USGov}} does not apply, so the uploader needs to identify some other public domain reason, which the uploader has not done. Stefan2 (talk) 16:01, 26 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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File:Entrance of KCC Veranza.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs).

• Invalid PD reason. Stefan2 (talk) 16:04, 26 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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File:Howie Stange at piano, 1959.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs).

• Invalid PD reason. Stefan2 (talk) 16:04, 26 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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File:Flag of Niagara, Canada.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs).

• Invalid PD reason. Stefan2 (talk) 16:05, 26 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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File:Your work will shorten the war.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs).

• Invalid PD reason. Stefan2 (talk) 16:06, 26 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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File:Robert-Bloom-Collection-cover.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs).

• Invalid PD reason. Stefan2 (talk) 16:10, 26 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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File:The-American-Oboist-flier-cover.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs).

• Invalid PD reason. Stefan2 (talk) 16:10, 26 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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File:William-H-Scheide.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs).

• Invalid PD reason. Stefan2 (talk) 16:10, 26 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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File:Roden Bros ltd mark.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs).

• Invalid PD reason. Stefan2 (talk) 16:11, 26 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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File:Television-Radio Age magazine cover June 8th, 1987.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs).

• Invalid PD reason. Stefan2 (talk) 16:12, 26 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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File:Cached copy of the 2006 NYS circumcision protocol regarding the prevention of neonatal herpes.pdf (delete | talk | history | logs).

• Invalid PD reason. Stefan2 (talk) 16:12, 26 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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File:Publicity shot of Lizabeth Scott being interviewed on the BBC.jpeg (delete | talk | history | logs).

• Invalid PD reason. Stefan2 (talk) 16:14, 26 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

The image in question was published on June 13, 1946 in England. According to UK copyright law, the copyright if any to this image expires at the end of 2016 (70 years from the date of publication). But according to US copyright law, since the file was published in the UK before 1978 as a publicity photo, without compliance with US formalities, it is thereby in the public domain in the United States, where the servers of Wikipedia are located (Virginia). Therefore the image in question can only be used on the English-language Wikipedia and should not be transferred to Wikimedia Commons until the end of 2016.

Jamesena (talk) 20:38, 26 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

According to UK copyright law, the copyright to this image expires 70 years after the death of the photographer.

According to US copyright law, the copyright expires 95 years after the photograph was first published. Compliance with US copyright formalities is irrelevant unless the photograph was published in the United States within 30 days after publication in the UK or the photographer was a US citizen living in the United States, of which we have no evidence. --Stefan2 (talk) 20:45, 26 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

In addition, works published before January 1, 1978, are governed by the 1909 Copyright Act. Under that law, if a work was published under the copyright owner’s authority without a proper notice of copyright, all copyright protection for that work was permanently lost in the United States. There is no copyright attached to the image in question. Jamesena (talk) 18:11, 27 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

That's not correct. The copyright was only temporarily lost, see {{Not-PD-US-URAA}}. --Stefan2 (talk) 18:15, 27 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I'll remove the image from the two articles that uses it till the issue is resolved. Jamesena (talk) 19:00, 27 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

• The image is quite beautiful, but invalid unless we have better evidence it is clearly copyrighted under US law. Scott's US debut was in 1945, no? μηδείς (talk) 01:27, 8 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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File:Fritz lang m screenshot meeting.png (delete | talk | history | logs).

• Invalid PD reason: this is a German film. Stefan2 (talk) 16:15, 26 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

• I don't understand why this file has been nominated. The unrestored version of the film, from which I took this image, is in the US public domain. JimmyBlackwing (talk) 06:31, 27 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • A German film from 1931 is in no situation in the public domain in the United States. The copyright expires 95 years from publication. --Stefan2 (talk) 11:03, 27 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]
    • The copyright was not renewed. Every source I've seen online—including the Internet Archive, which has a lot to lose by hosting copyrighted material—lists the film as a public domain work. See here, for example. Cheap DVDs and VHS tapes have circulated for decades. Where is the evidence that this film isn't in the public domain? JimmyBlackwing (talk) 14:00, 27 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]
      • German films do not need renewals. Renewals are only needed for films from the United States. German films are automatically protected for 95 years from publication in the United States. See c:COM:HIRTLE. --Stefan2 (talk) 14:11, 27 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]
        • The 95-year protection is not automatic. See the relevant passage from your link: "Published in compliance with all US formalities (notice, and renewal for pre-1964 works)". All of this applies to M—except that M's copyright was not renewed when its initial 28-year protection expired. As you can read on this page:
          • "M. ©Foremco Pictures Corp. and Nassau Films, Inc. (Nero Films, author); 11May31; LP3800. [Film Superlist includes a Copyright Office Search Report on this film, documenting that the Copyright Office sought a renewal record on this film among its records and failed to find one.]"
        • There is no question that the film fell into the public domain. The only issue is whether a valid copyright to M was restored as a result of the URAA, which I'm less clear on. JimmyBlackwing (talk) 23:58, 27 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]
          • • The 95-year protection is automatic for German films, unless more or less everyone involved in the creation of the film died before 1926. See {{Not-PD-US-URAA}} and c:COM:HIRTLE and remember to check the correct passage at c:COM:HIRTLE. --Stefan2 (talk) 17:50, 12 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]
              • None of that brings anything new to the table. Here are the facts: 1) the film fell at least for several decades into the US public domain, because its copyright was not renewed after the initial 28-year protection period expired; 2) its copyright may have been restored after the URAA. The Internet Archive seems certain that its copyright was not restored, but it's possible that a mistake has been made. It depends on whether the film was in the German public domain at the time of the URAA, which is information that I don't have. If the film wasn't in the German public domain, then the 95-year protection applies—but whether it was or wasn't has yet to be shown. JimmyBlackwing (talk) 20:44, 13 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]
                • The Internet Archive often provides incorrect information. The only thing you need to know is that the film was first published after 1920. By knowing this, you know that the copyright was restored and that the film is subject to the full copyright term of 95 years from publication, as explained at c:COM:HIRTLE. It is not my fault that you can't read the page properly. Also, on the question on whether the film was in the German public domain or not, you will have to consider that copyright expires in Germany 70 years after the death of certain people. As the film was not even 70 years old in 1996, no one involved in the creation of the film could possibly have been dead for 70 years at that point. --Stefan2 (talk) 18:15, 14 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Very well; go ahead and delete it. I'll have to find some other free image to illustrate the section. JimmyBlackwing (talk) 04:17, 15 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

• • • • • • If there are no further objections, I think this case can be closed. JimmyBlackwing (talk) 17:46, 3 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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File:Madhesh Map, Southern Region of Nepal.png (delete | talk | history | logs).

• Invalid PD reason. Stefan2 (talk) 16:16, 26 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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File:San Fernando, Pampanga.jpeg (delete | talk | history | logs).

• Invalid PD reason. Stefan2 (talk) 16:17, 26 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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File:MarjorieHolmes.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs).

• Invalid PD reason. Also, the uploader claims that the photo was taken more than two years after the woman on the photo died, which seems unlikely. Stefan2 (talk) 16:22, 26 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

To clarify, the picture was NOT taken in 2004, but the obituary article in which it appears was dated 2004. If there's a problem with this picture, however, I can take a photograph of her with my mobile and upload it. I have a lovely one, in colour, inside an autographed copy of one of her books. —This lousy T-shirt— (talk) 20:28, 3 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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• Invalid PD reason. Stefan2 (talk) 16:24, 26 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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• Invalid PD reason. Stefan2 (talk) 16:28, 26 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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File:Ariel view of Lee Valley Hockey and Tennis Centre.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs).

• If the uploader took the picture, then why is the same picture also available here? Stefan2 (talk) 17:01, 26 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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