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The result of the discussion was: keep. License adjusted. — ξ^xplicit 01:08, 2 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

File:Wales Ireland 1950.png (delete | talk | history | logs).

• This is an Image I have uploaded, I believe that the image to be below the threshold of copyright, the only issue is the dragon, which is a generic symbol for Wales and is used inside the booklet to advertise border ale as a symbol of Wales, rather than the Welsh FA Fasach Nua (talk) 13:17, 4 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Right, let us see where this dragon stands on ground of copyright. I think {{PD-textlogo}} is ineligible since the dragon is not of simple design (I judge it would need a level of artistic skill to render the proportions and poise in such a clean manner). Is it a derivative of a much older and out of copyright design? Bearing no similarity in pose with the one on the flag, this dragon is also different from that of the National Welsh Football Team's badge; the overall proportions and the posture of its legs are different enough to be original. Therefore, I doubt it is a copy of an older dragon; it likely deserves its own copyright. Wales seems to be covered under United Kingdom's Copyright Laws and I doubt the FAW can be considered part of UK's government, so we have to look on private grounds, where it is 70 years pma for known authorship. If it is of anonymous (or corporate) authorship, then we have 70 years after first publication to contend with. In this case, assuming this (1950) is the first publication, the dragon is copyrighted until 2021. If one wishes to avoid the URAA mess, then unless the first publication is 1925 or earlier, tis dragon shalt be in the realms of copyright protection. Jappalang (talk) 15:25, 4 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
    • Thanks for that, So we need to find a usage of this image pre-1940 and ideally pre-1925 Fasach Nua (talk) 16:10, 4 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
      • would this be enough?
        • From that link, the earliest year I can determine for the year of copyright of dragon in the match programme is 1938; it is a "cleaner" version (derivative) of the dragon on this cap, the year is taken from its embroidery. If that is the first publication, then it would be PD in Wales, but its copyright in the US would have been restored by the URAA, especially since it is unlikely there are no reliance parties (people who were using the item) in the US before 1996. Jappalang (talk) 21:15, 4 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
          • I have relicensed the image as PD in the country of origin, together with a link to the 1938 usage Fasach Nua (talk) 17:31, 18 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the debate was: Delete; deleted by Explicit (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT⚡ 01:47, 18 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

File:Wuda.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs).

• Probably belongs to the university and not the uploader. Eeekster (talk) 00:31, 4 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the debate was: Delete; deleted by Explicit (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT⚡ 01:47, 18 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

File:Winner kca.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs).

• Appears to be a derivative work from a music video. Copyright is unlikely to be owned by the uploader. Eeekster (talk) 03:33, 4 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the debate was: Delete; deleted by Explicit (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT⚡ 01:47, 18 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

File:Logodefault.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs).

• Airport logo. Eeekster (talk) 03:35, 4 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the debate was: Delete; deleted by Explicit (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT⚡ 01:47, 18 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

File:Logo potoscape.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs).

• Somebody's logo and unlikely to be owned by the uploader. Eeekster (talk) 03:53, 4 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the debate was: Delete; deleted by Explicit (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT⚡ 01:47, 18 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

File:Logo BA.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs).

• Non-free school logo. Eeekster (talk) 03:56, 4 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the debate was: Delete; deleted by Peripitus (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT⚡ 14:02, 4 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

File:Frame photoscape.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs).

• Unlikely to be the work of the uploader. Eeekster (talk) 04:04, 4 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the debate was: Delete; deleted by Explicit (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT⚡ 01:47, 18 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

File:KRI CAKRA.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs).

• Unlikely to be the work of the uploader. Eeekster (talk) 04:20, 4 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the debate was: Delete; deleted by Explicit (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT⚡ 01:47, 18 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

File:LastKingOfNagar.JPG (delete | talk | history | logs).

• OR, appears to be a photo of another photo (see slivers on left and right) Calliopejen1 (talk) 05:20, 4 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the debate was: Delete; deleted by Explicit (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) A file with this name on Commons is now visible. AnomieBOT⚡ 01:47, 18 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

File:DolphinShowLogo.ColorGlow.png (delete | talk | history | logs).

• Needs verification that the uploader owns the rights. Eeekster (talk) 07:08, 4 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

• OTRS permission confirmed. VernoWhitney (talk) 13:34, 12 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

keep Fasach Nua (talk) 04:27, 13 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the debate was: Delete; deleted by Explicit (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT⚡ 01:47, 18 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

File:Modern Menswear Cover.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs).

• This is a magazine cover, so the image obviously wasn't created by the uploader as stated in the description. I fail to see how any fair-use rationale would apply to this being used on the Hywel Davies article. I'm not really familiar with the policy on files such as this, so my apologies if I should have brought this up elsewhere. ThemFromSpace 07:36, 4 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the debate was: Delete; deleted by Explicit (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT⚡ 01:47, 18 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

File:91stanzaxe.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs).

• The author listed a set of requirements on the image description page, but these requirements (specifically, the prohibition against modifying the image) are incompatible with the licenses listed as well as with Wikipedia's policy on free content. —BorgHunter (talk) 13:42, 4 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

delete per nom Fasach Nua (talk) 19:56, 4 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the debate was: Delete; deleted by Explicit (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT⚡ 01:47, 18 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

File:Michael Manniche B1903.JPG (delete | talk | history | logs).

• It says source b1903.dk and there is no sign on http://www.b1903.dk/ that the images there should be PD. MGA73 (talk) 15:46, 4 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the debate was: Delete; deleted by Explicit (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT⚡ 22:17, 18 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

File:Woodward cabildo1.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs).

• Artist died in 1939 so uploader cannot just claim their own license. Ricky81682 (talk) 18:46, 4 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

possible keep The uploader may be confused, and is referring to their own scanning of the image, possibly PD life of author plus seventy years Fasach Nua (talk) 19:59, 4 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the debate was: Delete; deleted by Orphaned image deletion bot (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT⚡ 02:17, 13 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

File:Boss of rammo family.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs).

• no detailed fair use rationale Dougweller (talk) 19:21, 4 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the debate was: Delete; deleted by Orphaned image deletion bot (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT⚡ 02:17, 13 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

File:Momoeimarat.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs).

• no detailed fair use rationale Dougweller (talk) 19:23, 4 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the debate was: Delete; deleted by Explicit (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT⚡ 01:47, 18 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

File:Sonic Screwdrivers.png (delete | talk | history | logs).

• 3D rendering of Doctor Who sonic screwdrivers are derivative works of said sonic screwdrivers, which clearly pass the threshold of originality. See also commons:Commons:Deletion requests/File:Sonic Collection.png. -mattbuck (Talk) 21:00, 4 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Disagree. This is a personally made rendering and is the only image on the page of the subject item which is neither a screen capture nor a photo of toys. Copyright restricts the expression of an idea, but not the idea itself. As such my use of the idea of the devices itself, for demonstrative and commentary purposes, free of profit, is fair use, and the rendering, which is wholly my work, is released to the public domain. (To explain, my preparation of a derived work, if it were not itself covered under fair use, would be a copyright violation. However, it is covered under fair use. The image I created from that derived work is, thus, wholly my work (if it were used for a non-fair use purpose it would retroactively cause the original derivation (the 3D models) to cease to be fair use and thus cause the rendering itself to inherit that status) Dodger (talk) 22:49, 4 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Adding this: The first work (the 3D models) is is for nonprofit educational and identification purposes. The copyrighted work is a series of stories, of which the existence of Sonic Screwdrivers only represents a small portion and the screwdrivers are not, in themselves, repsentative of the nature of the stories (i.e., they are props). The portion used (the general appearance of sonic screwdrivers) is an immeasurably small portion of the original work (45 years of stories, several decades of which didn't even feature sonic scrwdrivers as props), and the only possible effect of this work upon the potential market of Doctor Who or licensed toys derived from Doctor Who would be to increase awareness and interest. Moreover this work is transformative, changing the use purpose (identification and illustration rather than as a prop or story element), changing the media (rendered 3D animation rather than sculpted prop), and somewhat interprative ("making up" the handle of the 2nd Doctor's Sonic because it is never visible in the series). This meets all four criteria for Fair Use under US copyright law as well as the general guideline of hte work being in some way transformative. The picture stays. Dodger (talk) 23:05, 4 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

delete unlicensed media Fasach Nua (talk) 20:42, 5 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Media has now been licensed, this is clearly a derived work of non-free media yet, delete improperly licensed Fasach Nua (talk) 20:33, 10 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the debate was: Delete; deleted by Explicit (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT⚡ 01:47, 18 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

File:Malahide bridge.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs).

• Image appears on the Belfast Telegraph http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/local-national/scouts-warned-about-danger-bridge-on-belfastdublin-rail-line-14469473.html webpage before upload to wikipedia, exactly the same size with no meta data. Uploader has claimed PD-user for other copyrighted images MilborneOne (talk) 21:12, 4 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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