Wikipedia:Possibly unfree files/2009 June 11

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The result of the debate was: Delete; deleted by Drilnoth (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT⚡ 04:11, 25 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

User has a history of uploading bizarre images like this from other web sources; I can't find an original source here but would again presume non-free. (ESkog)^(Talk) 01:00, 11 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the debate was: Delete; deleted by Drilnoth (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT⚡ 04:11, 25 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Same as the above. (ESkog)^(Talk) 01:00, 11 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the debate was: Delete; deleted by ESkog (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT⚡ 08:11, 11 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The uploader of the image claimed that he is the copyright owner of the image. however, the water mark on the image clearly indicated, its been copied from www.mapsofindia.com Sasikiran (talk) 06:16, 11 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the debate was: Delete; deleted by Drilnoth (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT⚡ 04:11, 25 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Appears to be a scan of a photo; unlikely uploader's own work, although the age may or may not put this in the public domain. (ESkog)^(Talk) 06:29, 11 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the debate was: Delete; deleted by Drilnoth (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT⚡ 04:11, 25 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Same as above, another scan of an old photo. (ESkog)^(Talk) 06:30, 11 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the debate was: Delete; deleted by Drilnoth (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT⚡ 04:11, 25 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Same as above, another scan of an old photo. (ESkog)^(Talk) 06:30, 11 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the debate was: Delete; deleted by Backslash Forwardslash (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT⚡ 10:12, 11 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Appears to be scanned out of a newspaper, and the same user (Lorrainekim at en.wikipedia) uploaded 10 copyright violation images at the same time. Most of them were obvious screenshots of TV programs so I speedied those. Dkim11.jpg appears to be in the same boat as this one. -- Austin512 (talk • contribs 06:44, 11 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the debate was: Delete; deleted by Backslash Forwardslash (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT⚡ 10:12, 11 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Appears to be scanned out of a newspaper, and the same user (Lorrainekim at en.wikipedia) uploaded 10 copyright violation images at the same time. Most of them were obvious screenshots of TV programs so I speedied those. Dkim10.jpg appears to be in the same boat as this one. -- Austin512 (talk • contribs 06:49, 11 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the debate was: Delete; deleted by ESkog (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT⚡ 19:16, 11 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

It is extremely unlikely that FIFA.com (the credited source) would have released this image to the public domain. At least, there is no evidence that they have done so. Mattinbgn\^talk 10:45, 11 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the debate was: Delete; deleted by Drilnoth (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT⚡ 04:11, 25 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

A professional drawing, likely from a game. Hekerui (talk) 12:24, 11 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the debate was: Delete; deleted by Drilnoth (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT⚡ 04:11, 25 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

image has url on it, not clear if permission has been acquired, the copyright notice on it is that of the uploader as I understand it images should not have such watermarks. The editor's textual copyvios may or may not be relevant Dougweller (talk) 16:22, 11 June 2009 (UTC) There's a new version now, but I don't see how it could be the editor's creation unless he's a cartographer. He's admitted (see below) that another image, Traditional limbuni.jpg, is one for which he doesn't have copyright. And there are more when I have time to bring them here. Dougweller (talk) 21:01, 12 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

• Comment: The original version of the image is available here: [1] (on another website). The image found there does not have a copyright notice on it, which makes the situation confusing, as the image that has been uploaded to wikipedia has a copyright tag on it. If the uploader is the original creator of the map, I believe that he needs to provide more details to prove this. Unfortunately the burden of proof is on the uploader. If the uploader added details to the image page such as date of creation, how he created it, etc, perhaps this might go some way to alleviating concerns about where the image came from. Also can the uploader explain why the image appears on the British Empire website? Did he give this site permission to use it, or does he work for them? — AustralianRupert (talk) 04:18, 16 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment The uploader removed the PUI tag [2] which I've replaced. It doesn't look as though he wants to get involved in discussions. Dougweller (talk) 07:08, 16 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
    • I don't really know how this process works, but it maybe time to take this to WP:IfD. It is a shame, as the map is useful in illustrating the Gurkha article, but if the uploader does not want to participate in the discussion, I don't see that there is any other option. By the way, I just had a look at the Metadata on the image and it states that the copyright holder is the British Empire website where the original is found. Thus I really don't think we can keep it on Wikipedia, unless the uploader can provide the extra details I mentioned above. — AustralianRupert (talk) 04:44, 17 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
      • WP:IfD says "Suspected copyright violations shouldn't be listed here." and that this is the appropriate place. Dougweller (talk) 11:32, 17 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
        • Yes, you are right. I had missed that. Thanks for pointing that out. — AustralianRupert (talk) 12:28, 17 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the debate was: Delete; deleted by Drilnoth (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT⚡ 04:11, 25 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Uploader has history of multiple copyright violations, many from daivajna.org. I can't find the original source on this one, but given the source I don't believe that the uploader got this guy to pose for a picture. (ESkog)^(Talk) 18:02, 11 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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Uploader has history of multiple copyright violations, many from daivajna.org. The border and Photoshop metadata are characteristic of a copyright violation. (ESkog)^(Talk) 18:03, 11 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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Uploader has history of multiple copyright violations, many from daivajna.org. (ESkog)^(Talk) 18:03, 11 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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Uploader has history of multiple copyright violations, many from daivajna.org. (ESkog)^(Talk) 18:03, 11 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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Uploader has history of multiple copyright violations, many from daivajna.org. (ESkog)^(Talk) 18:04, 11 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the debate was: Delete; deleted by Drilnoth (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT⚡ 04:11, 25 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Uploader has history of multiple copyright violations, many from daivajna.org. (ESkog)^(Talk) 18:04, 11 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the debate was: Delete; deleted by Drilnoth (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) A file with this name on Commons is now visible. AnomieBOT⚡ 04:11, 25 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Uploader has history of multiple copyright violations, many from daivajna.org. (ESkog)^(Talk) 18:04, 11 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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Uploader has history of multiple copyright violations, many from daivajna.org. (ESkog)^(Talk) 18:04, 11 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the debate was: Delete; deleted by Drilnoth (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) A file with this name on Commons is now visible. AnomieBOT⚡ 04:11, 25 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Insufficient source to verify licensing; source links directly to the flickr server rather than the page which contains the info we need. (ESkog)^(Talk) 18:05, 11 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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Uploader has history of multiple copyright violations, many from daivajna.org. (ESkog)^(Talk) 18:05, 11 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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Uploader has history of multiple copyright violations, many from daivajna.org. (ESkog)^(Talk) 18:06, 11 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the debate was: Delete; deleted by Tanthalas39 (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT⚡ 16:17, 19 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Image has a link to www.clickdharan.com/ and uploader's copyright watermark. Edit summary when created says "Description = www.clickdharan.com for more info" Dougweller (talk) 18:58, 11 June 2009 (UTC) The contributor now says on my talk page "-pictures-[reply]

you are pissing me off.

1. i have asked permission to the copyright holder.

that is clickdharan.com

u can go check forum

if not contact him at clickdharan@yahoo.com

2. gurkha map is not copyright.

- bigen182 —Preceding unsigned comment added by Bigen182 (talk • contribs) 19:13, 12 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Dougweller (talk) 20:48, 12 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

• Comment: Given that the photo is derived from elsewhere and not the uploader's own work the attribution details on the image page need to be updated. For instance, the source details should be included in the correct field, also the original author should be stated, and the date of when they made it added. The copyright details are not correct, either. Even if the creator has provided permission for use, I do not believe that the uploader is the copyright holder. Finally, as the uploader has indicated above that they have obtained permission for the use of the file from the original author, I believe that this permission is required to be emailed to the permissions people to obtain OTRS permission (see WP:COPYREQ). This is something that the uploader is required to do, and I do not believe it is sufficient to state (as per above) "go check the forum". The burden of proof for free images lies with the uploader, not a user that comes along and (rightfully) questions the image's provenance. That is my understanding of the policy, and I admit that I may be wrong, in which case, please feel free to comment. Having said all of this, if the uploader fixes the issues I have raised, I do not see why the image can't be kept (although having said this I don't know the policy on using watermarked images). It may well be a case of a user not quite understanding the policy, which can be an honest mistake. However, if that is the case, the user needs to join the discussion. Cheers. AustralianRupert (talk) 04:00, 16 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the debate was: Delete; deleted by Andrew c (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT⚡ 15:45, 29 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Image itself may be uploader's work, but what it depicts is almost certainly copyrighted. –Drilnoth (T • C • L) 22:19, 11 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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