Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/User:Diceman

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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the miscellaneous page below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the debate was KEEP - NOMINATION WITHDRAWN. non-admin closure by 12 Noon 16:24, 7 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

User:Diceman

A frequent non-fair-use image uploader has included on his userpage a personal attack against User:BetaCommand for his use of an image-deleting bot, suggesting that he and his "apologists" are "Copyright Nazis." Furthermore, behavior on the userpage "commentary" section includes incivil references to such people destroying the "collaborative spirit." WaltCip (talk) 20:14, 5 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

  • Radiant removed commentary section. Withdraw nomination.--WaltCip (talk) 00:40, 7 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep User pages containing problematic content ought, IMHO, to be brought to MfD only where the problematic content is of extended length and composes a significant portion of the page (since XfD, after all, is not a substitute for cleanup/refactoring) or where an editor has refused to remove content that another finds problematic, such that the community need weigh in on the issue to establish a consensus relative to the maintenance of the problematic material; neither case appears to be present here, and, in fact, I see no prior effort to raise any objections with Diceman (apologies, to be sure, if I've missed something). I am inclined to think that the material in question need not be removed—established users are generally accorded some latitude in expressing views about the project in userspace, and there's no grand collaboration-impairing incivility here—but I would suggest that the nominator might do well to raise the issue diplomatically with Diceman on the latter's talk page. Joe 23:44, 5 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep as per Joe. If Beta explains his rationale in removing Diceman's images, maybe they can reach an agreement. The user seems to be a sensible individual. Master of Puppets Care to share? 00:25, 6 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment - This would appear to be a pointy page nomination, as this user has taken a dim view of another user's MfD nomination and is now casting about for others to toss into the fire. Having said that, the entire "Commentary" section on User:Diceman should be deleted as a WP:NPA violation, which surely comparing an admin to a Nazi is an example of. Tarc (talk) 13:30, 6 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • I assure you that those two MfD issues are entirely unrelated, and I even fully regret making the comment after past scrutiny.--WaltCip (talk) 14:50, 6 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep, but delete commentary section. The commentary section violates WP:SOAP and WP:NPA. According to WP:SOAP, users can comment on their user page, as long as its reasonable statements of opinion on internal Wikipedia policies and guidelines. Specifically targeting User:Betacommand and the other users "apologists" and calling them all "Copyright Nazi"s violates WP:NPA and thus is not a reasonable statement. So, this section should be deleted, but the remainder of the page should be kept. --Son (talk) 15:22, 6 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.