Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Template:User UkraineInvasion

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the miscellaneous page below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the discussion was: delete. ✗plicit 12:10, 21 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Template:User UkraineInvasion (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)​

This userbox promotes hatred towards Ukrainians: the Russian military symbol Z is often referred to as Russian swastika (see The Independent or The Telegraph, for example), while WP:UBCR forbids userboxes that are inflammatory. Wikisaurus (talk) 08:51, 14 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Comment: As the creator of this userbox, I have no problem to see it deleted if that's the result of a consensus of editors. Next, I have created it to be a polar opposite of User:Kaleeb18/Userboxes/NATO War Belarus and User:Kaleeb18/Userboxes/NATO War Russia, so please be sure to also delete other userboxes which promote/wants war, like these two. —Sundostund (talk) 09:32, 14 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Do you support this war or are you just trying to make a WP:POINT about other templates? Either way, this is not acceptable here. —Michael Z. 00:48, 16 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

My idea was simply to establish a kind of equal representation here, i.e. enabling supporters of this war to express their opinion, in the same way as supporters of a prospective war on Russia and Belarus already did, with the two other userboxes. —Sundostund (talk) 01:06, 16 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

It’s still not clear to me. Are you expressing your support for all wars? Unacceptable. Or are you making Wikipedia worse because you saw something wrong with it? Unacceptable. —Michael Z. 18:43, 19 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Support deletion, alongside the two mentioned above by Sundostund A. C. Santacruz ⁂ Please ping me! 10:00, 14 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete per WP:UBCR and WP:UPNOT, which says you can't advocate acts of violence in userspace. The same applies to the userboxes advocating that NATO invade countries. Hut 8.5 19:06, 15 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep I have reworded this userbox and also the other two userboxes. @Sundostund:, @A. C. Santacruz:, @Hut 8.5: and @Wikisaurus: Catfurball (talk) 21:14, 15 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
• Comment: I have further reworded the two other userboxs, to make clearer avoidance of their previous propagation of war on Russia and Belarus. Also, if there's a consensus of editors to turn these three userboxes from pro-war into anti-war ones, instead of deleting them, I think that Template:User UkraineInvasion would need an image as part of it (maybe the Russian military symbol Z with an x-mark over it, like File:Flag of Taliban with X-Mark.jpg). —Sundostund (talk) 23:22, 15 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete Waht’s the point of bowdlerizing it? If anyone wants a different template, create a different template. Delete hate speech and calls to violence. Expunge their history. —Michael Z. 00:46, 16 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete "Userboxes must not be inflammatory or substantially divisive" per WP:UBCR. --Renat 02:36, 16 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete per UBCR/UPNOT. This propagates a hostile atmosphere, which harms the mission of the project. Royal Autumn Crest (talk) 14:02, 18 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
• delete clear endorsement of violence in the form of an unprovoked, internationally and near-universally condemned war. Bowdlerizing it is a cheap move. Dronebogus (talk) 07:26, 19 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.