Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Portal:Las Vegas

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the miscellaneous page below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the discussion was: delete. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 08:21, 1 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Portal:Las Vegas

(Time stamp for bot to properly relist.) Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 08:02, 25 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Mini-portal abandoned since 2006. It offers no added value to readers.

Created[1] in January 2006‎ by Texaswebscout (talk · contribs).

There is no selection of topics, and the list of sub-pages at Special:PrefixIndex/Portal:Las Vegas shows few pages:

Portal:Las Vegas/Las Vegas news, which since 2008[2] has been a linkfarm contrary to WP:ELNO
Portal:Las Vegas/Did you know, which had no new entries since 2008[3]. Per WP:DYK, "The DYK section showcases new or expanded articles that are selected through an informal review process. It is not a general trivia section" ... but this eleven-your-old list loses the newness, so its only effect is as a trivia section.
Portal:Las Vegas/Selected picture, same picture set since 2008[4]
Portal:Las Vegas/Selected biography, same topic (Sam Boyd} since 2006[5]
Portal:Las Vegas/Las Vegas topics, which since 2006 has been displaying an extranmal link related to the topic Las Vegas Corporate Challenge, which was PROD-deleted in 2010 as non-notable event under WP:ATHLETE

Per WP:PORTAL, "Portals serve as enhanced 'Main Pages' for specific broad subjects". But this is massively less useful in every respect than the head article Las Vegas and its navbox {{Las Vegas}}.

Two newish features of the Wikimedia software means that the head article offers most of the functionality which portals like this set out to offer. Both features are available only to ordinary readers who are not logged in, but you can test them without logging out by right-clicking on a link, and the select "open in private window" (in Firefox) or "open in incongnito window" (Chrome).

mouseover: on any link, mouseover shows you the picture and the start of the lead. So the preview-selected page-function of portals is redundant: something almost as good is available automatically on any navbox or other set of links. Try it on head article Las Vegas and its navboxes.
automatic imagery galleries: clicking on an image brings up an image gallery of all the images on that page. It's full-screen, so it's actually much better than even a click-for-next image gallery on a portal. Try it on Las Vegas.

Similar features have been available since 2015 to users of Wikipedia's Android app.

WP:POG#How_often_to_update? says that unless automated, the content selection should be updated monthly, or preferably weekly. Even on a monthly cycle, this pseudo-portal has missed over 150 consecutive updates, and it is time to stop wasting the time of readers by luring them to this abandoned draft.

Yes, this is in theory a broad topic. Wikipedia has extensive coverage of topics related to Las Vegas, but this portal does nothing to help readers sample or navigate it. But WP:POG guides that portals should be about "broad subject areas, which are likely to attract large numbers of interested readers and portal maintainers", and this has not attracted maintainers.

So I propose that this portal and its sub-pages be deleted per WP:TNT, without prejudice to recreating a curated portal in accordance with whatever criteria the community may have agreed at that time. BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 23:24, 17 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Delete - I don't know whether this is a broad subject area; I don't know whether every large city is a broad subject area. Perhaps the portal and the article, like the city, are primarily tourist destinations. However, the portal has 12 daily pageviews, as opposed to 4574 for the head article. The features described by BHG provide much of the functionality that a portal is intended to provide, and the portal isn't being used much. Robert McClenon (talk) 15:04, 18 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 08:02, 25 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Delete - Abandoned draft of a portal, 16 subpages, created 2006-01-12 04:46:55 by User:Texaswebscout. Never went alive. Nothing to keep. Portal:Las Vegas. Pldx1 (talk) 09:28, 25 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: abandoned portals do not fulfil the portal criteria for inclusion. SITH (talk) 11:56, 27 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.