Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Portal:Bangladesh Liberation War

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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the miscellaneous page below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the discussion was: delete without prejudice to recreation of a portal that does this subject justice. MER-C 19:11, 19 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Portal:Bangladesh Liberation War

Portal:Bangladesh Liberation War (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Static portal, abandoned since 2010. Automation reverted, but restored manual version is ancient.

Created[1] in February 2010‎ by Jayantanth (talk · contribs).

Th list of subpages at [Special:PrefixIndex/Portal:Bangladesh Liberation War]] is sparse:

Converted[5] in September 2018‎ by @The Transhumanist to a fully-automated format, drawing its selected articles list from the navbox {{Bangladesh Liberation War}}, of which it was therefore just a bloated fork. (For a full explanation of why this type of portal is redundant, see the two mass deletions of similar portals: one, and two, where there was overwhelming consensus of a very high turnout to delete a total of 2,555 such portals). Automation reverted[6] today by BHG.

WP:POG#How_often_to_update? says that unless automated, the content selection should be updated monthly, or preferably weekly. Even on a monthly cycle, this pseudo-portal has missed over 120 consecutive updates.

In theory, this a broad topic. But in practice, it doesn't meet the WP:POG requirement that portals should be about "broad subject areas, which are likely to attract large numbers of interested readers and portal maintainers". This has not attracted maintainers.

Per WP:PORTAL, "Portals serve as enhanced 'Main Pages' for specific broad subjects". But this is massively less useful in every respect than the B-class head article Bangladesh Liberation War with its exceptionally comprehensive navbox {{Bangladesh Liberation War}}. That leaves

It is time to stop wasting the time of readers by luring them to this abandoned draft, and time to abandon the fantasy that this abandoned relic will some day magically attract magical editors who will want to resurrect it. If any editor does want to build a real portal, and can conceive some way of building on that is actually an enhancement, then they will be far better off without this relic and its ancient content-forked subpages; instead they should build a modern portal which lists key topics as in Portal:Harz Mountains, or which proves previews without content-forked sub-pages, as has recently been done with Portal:Geophysics.

For a topic with such a fine navbox, the value of the latter format is dubious, because two newish features of Wikipedia replicate by default most of the functions of a portal:

  1. mouseover: for ordinary readers who are not logged in, mouseover on any of the linked list items shows you the picture and the start of the lead. So the preview-selected page-function of portals is redundant: something almost as good is available automatically on any navbox or other set of links
  2. automatic imagery galleries: for ordinary readers who are not logged in, clinking on an image brings up an image gallery of all the images on that page. It's full-screen, so it's actually better than even a click-for-next image gallery on a portal

Similar features have been available since 2015 to users of Wikipedia's Android app.

So I propose that this portal and its sub-pages be deleted per WP:TNT, without prejudice to recreating a curated portal in accordance with whatever criteria the community may have agreed at that time. BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 15:13, 12 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.