Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Draft:Pathan (film)

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the miscellaneous page below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the discussion was: no consensus. Pathan (film) and Pathan (2022 film have both been salted. The authors can make as many drafts as they want, but it seems rather clear that they're not going to make it into mainspace anytime soon. Recommend continuing to reject the drafts if they are submitted for review, and escalating blocks for the author(s) if they continue making forks in draft space. —⁠ScottyWong⁠— 22:53, 2 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Draft:Pathan (film) (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)​

It is a rejected draft which won't be accepted anymore. Also the mainspace article about the same topic has been deleted after an discussion. Shinnosuke15, 10:49, 20 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

• Redirect to the article. The content of this draft seems to be copied entirely without attribution to create the mainspace article. So this should be a redirect to preserve page history with attribution on the talk page. -- Ab207 (talk) 11:41, 20 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

  Oh, I didn't know that the article is restored and isn't CSDed as per deletion review.Shinnosuke15, 12:28, 20 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

• Redirect to Pathan (film) as per Ab207. Shinnosuke15, 12:38, 20 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
• I agree that it looks like a copy/paste: cross-page diff. One hint is that the refs all have access-date=5 October 2021. Since the revisions are non-overlapping except for the MfD tag, listing at WP:Requests for history merge would repair the history best. There are a few other pages that need to be cleaned up: Pathan(2022) (already deleted), Draft:Pathan(2022), Draft:Draft:Pathan(film), Pathan(film), and Pathan (Film). I warned the re-creator, User:OE1995, with {{uw-c&pmove}}. Flatscan (talk) 05:23, 21 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Right, its better if there's a histmerge since this was clear copy-paste move. -- Ab207 (talk) 07:00, 21 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    • To be clear, I will file the history merge request if this MfD is closed without fixing the problem, as it is out of scope. Flatscan (talk) 05:23, 22 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep in draft space. It appears that the promoters of the film are, mostly successfully, trying to confuse the jury and create an article in article space, after two AFDs have deleted the article, most recently Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Pathan (film) (2nd nomination). Robert McClenon (talk) 14:55, 22 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
• Comment - Admin action or title blacklisting may be needed at this point. We do not need a history merge, which would just put a whitewash on the article that should be in the black hole. Robert McClenon (talk) 14:55, 22 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • I think that merging Pathan (film)'s history into Draft:Pathan (film) produces a cleaner single history, but I don't have a strong opinion. The other pages should all be deleted. Flatscan (talk) 05:44, 23 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
• Comment - See Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Pathan (film) (3rd nomination). AFD, like MFD, is a content forum. Can we keep this at a content forum, or does it need to go to WP:ANI? Robert McClenon (talk) 17:43, 22 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • You were given this link already on your talk page, but for other readers: WP:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents#Re-creation of deleted articles by OE1995. Flatscan (talk) 05:44, 23 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
• Comment - OE1995 has been blocked for two weeks for disruptively re-creating deleted articles. Pathan (film) has been nominated for deletion from article space a third time. This MFD was started on 20 February, and the AFD was started on 22 February. I am asking that the closer Relist this MFD on 27 February to see what the result of the AFD is (unless there is snow). Robert McClenon (talk) 17:24, 23 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
• Draft:Pathan (2022 film) was created before the block and needs deletion too. Flatscan (talk) 05:27, 24 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment - User:Flatscan In my opinion, that, and any other drafts, should be redirected to the draft that is under discussion, which, as I have said, should be kept, because the film might come out this summer. Then again, it might not. The film seems to be in post-production limbo. Robert McClenon (talk) 05:48, 26 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    • The issue with redirecting instead of deleting is that the histories – Special:PageHistory/Draft:Pathan(2022) and Special:PageHistory/Draft:Pathan (2022 film) – contain unattributed copies that need to be repaired per WP:Copying within Wikipedia#Repairing insufficient attribution. If {{copied}} templates are used, they must not be removed. Edit summaries are tamper-proof, but their links break if the source page is moved. Flatscan (talk) 05:17, 27 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.