Wikipedia:Files for deletion/2011 November 29

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File:PPI Tenatoprazole.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Hópur 5 (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).

Orphaned file, SVG version now on commons  Ronhjones  ^(Talk) 23:58, 28 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete: The quality of the JPG is really poor. --Leyo 08:16, 29 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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File:PPI Omeprazole.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Hópur 5 (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).

Orphaned file, SVG version now on commons  Ronhjones  ^(Talk) 00:33, 29 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete: The quality of the JPG is really poor. --Leyo 08:17, 29 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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File:PPI Lansoprazole.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Hópur 5 (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).

Orphaned file, SVG version now on commons. Incorrect structure, missing C in trifluoroethoxy group.  Ronhjones  ^(Talk) 00:34, 29 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete: Per nom. --Leyo 08:17, 29 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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File:Breadoflifeministriesinternational.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by ElmersGlue2011 (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).

user-created logo; if not legit, it should not be retained and the legit logo used Skier Dude (talk) 02:46, 29 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

keep valid "non free logo", do you have evidence it is "not legit"? Slowking4⇔ †@1₭ 18:53, 30 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Since the uploader claims pd-self, that would indicate that it's user-created & not the legitimate logo & should not be kept. If it's not the legitimate logo for the organization; thus it should not be retained lest it be mistaken as the official - or the online source provided & the pd-self template removed. Skier Dude (talk) 03:08, 5 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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File:GCF LOGO.JPG (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by ElmersGlue2011 (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).

user-created logo; if not legit, it should not be retained and the legit logo used Skier Dude (talk) 02:47, 29 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

• keep valid "non free logo", do you have evidence it is "not legit"? Slowking4⇔ †@1₭ 19:08, 30 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

See above - same reason. Skier Dude (talk) 03:09, 5 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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Orphaned, no encyclopedic value. Sven Manguard Wha? 03:27, 29 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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Orphaned, no encyclopedic value. Sven Manguard Wha? 03:34, 29 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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Orphaned. No encyclopedic value Sven Manguard Wha? 03:36, 29 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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OR, no target article or encyc use Skier Dude (talk) 05:37, 29 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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OR, leftover from Nancy Rechcigl no other encyc use Skier Dude (talk) 05:39, 29 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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File:Crashcoursetheory together.JPG (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Tom Hallam (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).

OR, probably intended for Crash Course Theory, otherwise no encyc use Skier Dude (talk) 06:15, 29 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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same as above; for Crash Course Theory Skier Dude (talk) 06:19, 29 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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OR, UE, no encyc use Skier Dude (talk) 06:23, 29 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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orphaned user's image; no other encyc use Skier Dude (talk) 06:35, 29 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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OR, LQ, no encyc use or target article given Skier Dude (talk) 06:36, 29 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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OR, LQ, no encyc use or target article given Skier Dude (talk) 06:36, 29 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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orphaned user's image; no other encyc use Skier Dude (talk) 06:39, 29 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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orphaned user's image (?); no other encyc use Skier Dude (talk) 06:41, 29 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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OR, summary makes this probably a hoax Skier Dude (talk) 06:46, 29 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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OR, no source, probable hoax, uploader blocked Skier Dude (talk) 06:47, 29 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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OR, UE Skier Dude (talk) 06:49, 29 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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OR LQ fake album cover, no encyc use Skier Dude (talk) 06:51, 29 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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OR LQ fake album cover, no encyc use Skier Dude (talk) 06:52, 29 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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orphaned user page banner, no encyc use Skier Dude (talk) 06:52, 29 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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orphaned fraternity logo, no source, unlikely uploader is (c) holder if legit Skier Dude (talk) 06:54, 29 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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orphaned fake album/single (?) cover, no encyc use Skier Dude (talk) 06:57, 29 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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OR, LQ, no encyc use Skier Dude (talk) 06:59, 29 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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orphaned user's photo, no other encyc use Skier Dude (talk) 07:00, 29 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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OR, LQ, possible user's image; no other encyc use Skier Dude (talk) 07:06, 29 November 2011 (UTC) Delete. I don't actually remember adding this, so I apologise. Pafcool2 (talk) 22:39, 30 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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Overturned to a result of no consensus per DRV discussion. Beeblebrox (talk) 20:02, 26 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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Unnecessary non-free decorative image showing two important men meeting, used just to make the point that they once met. The reader does not need imagery to understand this matter. This is just a trivial image of two men meeting. No relevant information is uniquely conveyed by this picture. (p.s.: the first deletion nomination was overthrown due to low participation. Relisting now). damiens.rf 15:02, 29 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

keep the image certainly adds to my understanding of what the coup plotters looked like in that historical moment. Slowking4⇔ †@1₭ 18:48, 30 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Can you figure how many non-free images we would allow if we were to consider as relevant-information the look important people had at the time of every relevant event of their biographies? The look of these men had no role in the coup. --damiens.rf 20:01, 30 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Strong Keep. This is not simply "a trivial image of two men meeting." It is an image of the Venezuelan coup of 1992, which led to (current Venezuelan president) Hugo Chávez's first coming to public attention. The image therefore depicts a historic event. It is also in itself of interest as it documents one stage in Chávez's long and complex evolution. Here he is clearly (as can be seen only thanks to the image) a military man, part of the coup attempt; later, he will refashion himself as a democrat. Indeed, this transformation is in part effected by the failed coup attempt itself. The other key image is this one, which I have just noticed that damiens.rtf also got deleted, with a similarly bizarre rationale. The photograph under discussion here, taken just hours before Chávez bursts into public consciousness with his televised "por ahora" speech, is vital to understand the later image. These two images are historic in every sense implied by WP:HISTORIC (a policy that damiens.rtf seems to have some trouble understanding). --jbmurray (talk • contribs) 08:36, 1 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Can you point us to reliable sources that advance the theory that this image (and not just the event it depicts) is itself important, or it's all just based on your own original research about the topic? --damiens.rf 14:28, 1 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Wow, this is a standard of proof I've never seen in other image discussions. And you can somehow get away with the clearly misleading assertion that this is "a trivial image of two men meeting."

But actually, it might help to read a book about Chávez. You could do worse than start with Richard Gott's, which is probably the most accessible biography in English (though beware, it's very pro-Chávez). He emphasizes the role of the 1992 coup in founding Chávez's public image, and the importance of that image for his subsequent career. This is mostly about the second of the two images we're discussing, but still: "In February 1992, three years after the Caracazo, Colonel Chávez made his dramatic appearance. [. . .] Por ahora became his trademark slogan and the red beret of the parachute regiment became his signature logo. José Vicente Rangel cited the television appearance to me when explaining that Chávez would always be a strong supporter of press freedom" (pp 22, 23). Etc. etc. --jbmurray (talk • contribs) 17:21, 1 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

As I expected, you're only capable of providing sources discussing the events, but none discussing this image you claim to be historic. --damiens.rf 17:24, 1 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Oh, I could type out quotations all day about the importance of Chávez's image as established in these photos and screen grabs of 1992. Here's another: "Pasado el mediodía del martes 4, la televisión difundió por todo el país la imagen de Chávez, en uniforme de camuflaje y con su boina roja, anunciando que 'por ahora' no se habían logrado los objetivos del movimiento" (Blixen, Chávez: 48 horas en la vida de Hugo Chávez, 20). --jbmurray (talk • contribs) 17:31, 1 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

How is this about the image we're discussing? He is not eveb using a red beret (boina roja)! --damiens.rf 17:49, 1 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Again, I'm talking about the two images in conjunction. Do keep up! Meanwhile, could you please strike the phrase above "used just to make the point that they once met." This is clearly not the case. (FWIW Chávez and Arias have met plenty of times; there are no doubt dozens of images that could illustrate that; this one for instance.) Again, I find your deletion proposals bizarre, and misleading to the point of trolling. --jbmurray (talk • contribs) 18:17, 1 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep. I've looked at the page where it is used, and it seems to me that the two men meeting is something that a significant part of the page is about, so it seems to me to pass WP:NFCC#8. It's not simply WP:DECORATIVE or WP:ANYIMAGE. --Tryptofish (talk) 21:51, 1 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • I don't think anyone is arguing that the event isn't significant. The question is whether the image is significant, and I'm not convinced, especially as it's placed at the top of the article, away from any discussion about the photograph. That seems to miss the whole point of WP:NFCC#8. --Mosmof (talk) 22:29, 1 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]
    • Maybe my choice of words wasn't clear. I wasn't talking about the event being significant, but rather that the event is a significant focus of the text on the page, so that the image illustrates something that most of the text is about. Thus, it doesn't seem to me to be simply decorative, because it shows the reader something that is discussed at length in the text. As for WP:ANYIMAGE, I suppose editors can go back and forth endlessly about whether someone can "understand" that these two men met without seeing a photo of them meeting, but I think that readers can understand it better by seeing the image. Your mileage may differ, but that strikes me as a weak argument. --Tryptofish (talk) 19:57, 3 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]
    • "I don't think anyone is arguing that the event isn't significant." Actually, that seems to be the nominator's claim: "showing two important men meeting, used just to make the point that they once met. [...] This is just a trivial image of two men meeting." This is part of what's so misleading about the way in which the nomination is phrased. --22:53, 1 December 2011 (UTC)
      • The question stands though. Just because a photo shows something significant, doesn't mean the photo itself is significant enough to be subject of critical commentary. The nominator isn't calling the meeting trivial. The nominator is saying the image of the meeting is trivial. --Mosmof (talk) 23:26, 1 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]
        • It *is* trivial that these two men met. They met many times, were army buddies, later co-conspirators, still later Arias was a political progeny of Chávez, until ultimately he broke away from chavismo. The two have met hundreds if not thousands of times. To call this an image of their "meeting" is wrongheaded to the point of being actively misleading. It's an image of the coup, of a key moment in the coup, which shows a) the relation between the two men at that particular point and b) Chávez as he appeared just before he bursts onto public consciousness via the subsequent televised images of the "por ahora" speech. If you may excuse the licence, this is Chávez just before he becomes "Chávez," at the point where he is still (as shown in the image) mere a uniformed co-conspirator, at the same level as Arias. This image, together with the other one that Damiens has had deleted, tells you everything about the significance of this event not only for Chávez's political biography, but also for the past couple of decades of Venezuelan history. --jbmurray (talk • contribs) 23:34, 1 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]
          • Fair enough. But still, you're conflating the significance of an event with the significance of a photograph of a significant event. And the last part reads like a whole lot of editorializing. If that commentary is something that's discussed by historians and commentators, then sure, it would mee WP:NFCC#8. But that's not how the photograph is presented right now - it's just a decorative photo at the top of the article, whereas the way you're describing it, it should have its own section with third party sources describing and commenting on the photo. --Mosmof (talk) 23:44, 1 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]
            • Yes, there's some "editorializing" as I try to explain what I think the images convey. No more nor no less editorializing, however, than the utterly misleading nomination: "two important men meeting, used just to make the point that they once met." I have asked the nominator to strike that, but he has for some reason refused. --jbmurray (talk • contribs) 18:03, 2 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete This photo doesn't tell us anything that we could not describe in text - they met, they stood next to each other. To the extent this image is also being used to show that they dressed in military garb, it would be even better for readers (if that fact is truly important) to spell it out in text--again, text which can easily convey what is shown by the image. Fails NFCC8. I agree that Jbmurray is confounding the importance of the event with the importance of the photo. Also, even if this is an iconic image, it still must meet every one of the NFCCs. Calliopejen1 (talk) 15:01, 2 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete as failing WP:NFCC#8. Also possibly fails WP:NFCC#2 (commercial image) though the required copyright holder from WP:NFCC#10a is extremely sketchy. (The source link is 404'd.) Kelly ^hi! 18:51, 2 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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File:Header-WI.png (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by LatinoMuslim (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).

Orphaned, Unencyclopedic Calliopejen1 (talk) 20:17, 29 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete. The image is no longer used.--LatinoMuslim 03:49, 30 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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Orphaned file, poor quality, SVG version now on commons  Ronhjones  ^(Talk) 20:23, 29 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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Orphaned file, poor quality, SVG version now on commons  Ronhjones  ^(Talk) 20:23, 29 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete No use possible. --Leyo 14:01, 6 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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File:ButterCow.JPG (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Analogue Kid (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).

Derivative work, originally tagged as speedy with {{dw-nsd}} - no source/license info for original artwork. Tag removed by uploader, who also added a note about FOP. First, there is no freedom of panorama in the United States; second, this artistic work is still under copyright even though it's made of butter. (See Commons:Commons:Deletion requests/Images in Category:Butter sculptures.) The same applies to ice sculptures, as well. This item can only be kept under WP:NFCC. Kelly ^hi! 22:21, 29 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete per nom. 3D artwork in 2007. Cannot be a free file without sculptor's permission.  Ronhjones  ^(Talk) 23:26, 29 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep Wikipedia has an absurd way of thanking people who try and contribute. There is no way this artist cares or is going to come after Wikimedia for displaying this photo. Let's just delete everything in case somebody is upset! --Analogue Kid (talk) 18:55, 1 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete: Analogue Kid, while we welcome images from contributors, that is for photos that do not contain something that is copyright which the sculpture is and because there is no freedom of panorama per commons:COM:FOP#United States for modern US sculptures which is the reason your photo is up for deletion. Whether the artist cares or would bring a law suit is no reason to break the law, just because you can and likely will not be caught. If the sculpture was installed before 1923 and you uploaded your photo of it, there would be no problem because it is in the public domain. Perhaps you can get the artist to give his permission. Good luck ww2censor (talk) 21:06, 1 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not trying to break the law here. I changed the license to NFCC so hopefully everyone is happy. --Analogue Kid (talk) 16:10, 2 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete. WP:NEVERSUE. --Tryptofish (talk) 21:53, 1 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]
• And now it fails WP:NFCC#8 as a non-free image, since it merely illustrates a timeline item. --Mosmof (talk) 16:24, 2 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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Orphaned, does not seem to be accurate based on Military aircraft insignia, superseded by File:Roundel of the Hungarian Air Force (low visibility).svg Calliopejen1 (talk) 22:39, 29 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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watermark suggests Calliopejen1 (talk) 22:42, 29 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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Orphaned, other version credited to "Nimrod," this version credited to latin phrase, user has different username, not really sure who is the author Calliopejen1 (talk) 22:46, 29 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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File:Morphine Numbered Position.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Nagelfar (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).

Orphaned file, poor quality, SVG version now on commons  Ronhjones  ^(Talk) 23:21, 29 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

• Per nom (I agree). --Leyo 23:51, 29 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by Fastily (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT⚡ 08:05, 7 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

File:AmitabhKBC4.gif (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Bineetojha (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).

WP:NFCC#8 - decorative image that conveys no information that cannot be explained with text Mosmof (talk) 23:24, 29 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Decorative image ? Can you please explain. WP:NFCC#8, how are you supposed to describe the image of a person an in addition to that , a host is one of the most important things to be mentioned while writing about a television show.And the image is there to provide a mean of visual identification of the host.So please review your comments.|BINEET| 12:17, 30 November 2011 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bineetojha (talk • contribs)

Sure, it's because you don't need to show a picture to tell the readers what they need to know - we have newspaper reports and other written documentation. There's nothing about the image that's in discussion or commented on. --Mosmof (talk) 15:30, 30 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

keep the image certainly helps me understand what the host of the game show looks like. Slowking4⇔ †@1₭ 18:45, 30 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The appearance of the host isn't a subject of discussion. Plus, you can always go to his article and find out what he looks like. --Mosmof (talk) 20:12, 30 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete: with no critical commentary about this non-free image it clearly fails WP:NFCC#8 because there is no need to use a non-free image to show this person was the host of the show when that fact can be explained in prose, so the user's understanding of the topic will not be affected by the removal of the image. ww2censor (talk) 16:00, 1 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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