Wikipedia:Files for deletion/2007 September 19

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the media below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the media's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.

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Image:Gathering of eagles.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by Raphael1 (notify | contribs).

• This image is obviously unencyclopediac, and a possible copyright violation. Doe s wikipedia really need these types of images in the articles? It isn't of anything notable. Sefringle^Talk 02:28, 19 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

It seems that you are confusing the pictures legality as an image on Wikipedia, with your own personal view of its content and worth. Those are very different things. Padi 13:10, 19 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

• This image is immediately relevant for the Islamophobia article and suits perfectly to illustrate this topic. As you can see here WP does not violate its copyright as it is in the public domain. --Raphael1 02:36, 19 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I agree. Padi 13:10, 19 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

That guy, whoever he is (as we have no name for him), probably did not gave permission to have his image put on wikipedia in such a derogatory manner. The image demonstrates the a guy making a fool out of himself, not islamophobia. Sefringle^Talk 03:06, 19 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I don't see anything derogatory in the image use. I am quite sure he is even more proud after reading the article: he says proud and loud that he hates Islam: why would he be offended? `'Míkka 03:08, 19 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

You think the guy is making a fool out of himself, the guy himself may not. Add {{personality rights}} to the image description page and discuss usage at talk:Islamophobia, there's no need to delete the image. ˉˉ^anetode╦╩ 03:47, 19 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The man was in public at a public rally. The image in relation to his personal rights is legit. Padi 13:10, 19 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Comment - The image adds nothing to the article. Its use on the page seems to be aimed at producing an emotional and somewhat unencyclopaedic response from the reader. (I note that the uploader chose to rotate the image slightly so that "DEFEAT" could be cropped from above "JIHAD" as if it had never been there in the first place. Why?) The caption used indicates the image is of a protestor at the September 15, 2007 anti-war protest, which is somewhat ironic since nobody has thought to use it on that event's page where it would be more appropriate. Even there though, it would still be unnecessary. --AussieLegend 11:05, 19 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I'm withdrawing my vote and just leaving what I wrote as a comment. I still don't see the value of the image on the page and have discussed my concerns on the talk page of the article where it has been used. --AussieLegend 03:00, 23 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Keep - I fixed AussieLegends concern about "DEFEAT" being cropped. Now it's a bit leaning though.--Raphael1 14:37, 19 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

• Strong Keep - The image does not seem to violate any copyright statute, and is very relevant to the article in question. Padi 13:10, 19 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep - In my opinion, being a willing participant and placing himself in a very public event in a very public location means that the subject of the picture has no expectation of privacy or claim over his likeness being displayed in this fashion. Therefore, the only possible copyright issue would be from the person who owns the copyright to the picture itself. If the copyright holder has granted permission to use the picture on Wikipedia, the only issue is the appropriate use in any particular article, which should be discussed in the Talk page of the article. --JJLatWiki 15:31, 19 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep. There are two issues here, whether this image can be used in Islamophobia and whether this image can be used in wikipedia at all. The former must be addressed on the article's talk page, and not here. In response to the latter question, I suggest keep.Vice regent 21:00, 20 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep - This guy is a) obviously proud of his beliefs, and b) has NO reasonable expectation of privacy given that he was protesting in a public place. It's merits for use in the Islamophobia article is irrelevant since it is a free image, and very well might be useful in other articles yet to be determined. -- Y|yukichigai (_ramble argue ^check) 16:13, 21 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep per above, nothing wrong with the image --Childzy ¤ Talk 10:31, 23 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Image kept per consensus. -Nv8200p talk 03:09, 26 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the media's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.