Wikipedia:Featured sound candidates/January 2009
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A rather fine performance, with little sign of its extreme age. I think this is good enough to stand on its own merits.
- Nominate and support. Shoemaker's Holiday (talk) 09:18, 1 November 2008 (UTC)
- support Agree it's an interesting and fine performance. ++Lar: t/c 19:28, 1 November 2008 (UTC)
- Support Well-preserved old recording, a great voice. Agree --Vejvančický (talk) 07:46, 5 November 2008 (UTC)
- Oppose What is notable about this? What is it an example of? What does it illustrate? Nice voice, ugly arrangement. It's nae Scots. --Kleinzach 02:29, 16 December 2008 (UTC)
Promoted Auld Lang Syne.ogg.ogg --Xclamation point 02:58, 4 January 2009 (UTC)
An excellent recording of Bach's most famous flute sonata, performed on historical instruments. I'm not familiar with other, more recent, recordings of this work, but I think this is a pretty good effort. Used on Sonata in B minor for flute or recorder and harpsichord and List of compositions by Johann Sebastian Bach. Graham87 02:30, 31 October 2008 (UTC)
- Nominate and support. Graham87 02:30, 31 October 2008 (UTC)
- Support Excellent recording, and we need some Bach. Shoemaker's Holiday (talk) 16:12, 31 October 2008 (UTC)
- Support per nom and Shoe... very nice recording. ++Lar: t/c 19:30, 1 November 2008 (UTC)
- Support Baroque traverso flute!! I like it. And I support it, although the flutist has some slight problems with articulation and rhythm, particularly in the third movement. I am maybe overly critical :-)) --Vejvančický (talk) 21:52, 2 November 2008 (UTC)
Promoted all. --Xclamation point 03:09, 4 January 2009 (UTC)
Add your reasons for nominating it here; say what article(s) it appears in, and who created the recording.
- Nominate and support. Shoemaker's Holiday (talk) 03:09, 30 October 2008 (UTC)
- Oppose, sorry but the file has too poor accompaniment compared with Slezak's excellent voice.--Caspian blue 03:36, 30 October 2008 (UTC)
- Weak oppose per Caspian blue, the recording (especially the intrumental accompaniment) is too "shaky", it's maybe good complement to Slezak's article, but it's insufficient for featured sounds. --Vejvančický (talk) 22:01, 2 November 2008 (UTC)
- Oppose - The quality is not up to par. Zginder 2008-11-25T04:03Z (UTC)
- Weak oppose Fine for Slezak article but Caruso (or another mainline Italian rep. singer) would be better for the main articles. --Kleinzach 02:20, 16 December 2008 (UTC)
Not promoted --Xclamation point 03:31, 4 January 2009 (UTC)
I wanted to try and get some Christmas music ready well in advance to help Wikipedia's celebration of Christmas. This was easily the best of the recordings I found - I believe it can stand on its own as an excellent performance of the song, perfect for bringing us all into the Christmas spirit.
- Nominate and support. Shoemaker's Holiday (talk) 02:54, 28 October 2008 (UTC)
- Oppose per singers' singing.--Caspian blue 03:33, 30 October 2008 (UTC)
- I am afraid I don't understand Caspian blue's oppose. What's wrong with the singing? It probably would be a good idea to be clearer in the reason for the oppose. I found this to be an excellent example of the chorale style of caroling, and the recording quality is quite good. Important in its own right and we do need some holiday music. support ++Lar: t/c 19:35, 1 November 2008 (UTC)
- I know my rationale is obscure, and we need holiday music for Christmas. However, I felt sadden after listening to the familiar song, especially due to melancholy voices of the singers. If my rationale sounds very personal, well, I don't mind the closing admin/or editor would discount this opinion.--Caspian blue 00:26, 2 November 2008 (UTC)
- Oppose Nothing special on that recording, we can listen to it or sing it under the Christmas tree, but not as a featured sound in my opinion. Sorry. Btw, very funny comment by Caspian blue: "I felt sadden..." :-))) --Vejvančický (talk) 08:55, 5 November 2008 (UTC)
- The song is supposed to be sung merrily, but the singers did not convey the mood well.--Caspian blue 17:13, 5 November 2008 (UTC)
- It's in a minor key. How do you make a minor-key song merry? Shoemaker's Holiday (talk) 01:27, 6 November 2008 (UTC)
- By getting into the rhythm. --Kleinzach 02:47, 16 December 2008 (UTC)
- Because it is a song for the holiday :) The voices sound gloomy to me.--Caspian blue 17:48, 6 November 2008 (UTC)
- Heh.Just wait until you hear the next Christmas carol I'm working on. It includes the word "doom" and other words that rhyme with same. Shoemaker's Holiday (talk) 17:53, 6 November 2008 (UTC)
- It's in a minor key. How do you make a minor-key song merry? Shoemaker's Holiday (talk) 01:27, 6 November 2008 (UTC)
- The song is supposed to be sung merrily, but the singers did not convey the mood well.--Caspian blue 17:13, 5 November 2008 (UTC)
- If an oppose fails to state a valid reason, just ignore it. There is no need to argue further. Not expressing any opinion. Jehochman Talk 18:10, 6 November 2008 (UTC)
- Oppose This is a bit of a waste of everybody's time. Featured whatevers are supposed to be representative of the best on WP. There have to be positive reasons for nominations. In this case there is no information about the performers and the performance itself is notable only for its remarkable ability to turn a jolly carol into a dirge. Let's research these files properly before recommending them please! --Kleinzach 23:10, 6 November 2008 (UTC)
- Support: It doesn't sound too sad for me, 'specially since it's supposed to be in a minor key. Dendodge TalkContribs 10:29, 8 November 2008 (UTC)
Not promoted --Xclamation point 03:30, 4 January 2009 (UTC)
The notable singer, the surprisingly accurate accompaniment raise this above any other recording I could find with an acceptable licence. Other recordings of this from this time period all had severe abuses against Donizetti's intent, ranging from the almost forgiveable substitution of a harp for pizzicato strings, to arco strings and worse. There's still a little noise, but I think I managed to all or almost all of the really distracting clicks and pops. Shoemaker's Holiday (talk) 13:36, 7 November 2008 (UTC)
- Nominate and support. Shoemaker's Holiday (talk) 13:32, 7 November 2008 (UTC)
- Oppose - the sound clefts and cracks are too disturbing for featured sound. However archive it may be. The previous is much better. --Vejvančický (talk) 22:03, 13 November 2008 (UTC)
- Oppose - per Vejvančický. I've heard this Caruso recording in much better condition. What has gone wrong here? --Kleinzach 04:54, 16 December 2008 (UTC)
Not promoted --Xclamation point 03:30, 4 January 2009 (UTC)
Alessandro Moreschi was an Italian castrato singer of the late 19th and early 20th centuries. This is one of the (the only one on Wikimedia sites I believe) only known recordings of a castrato singer, thus it has a lot of EV. Maxim(talk) 22:47, 16 December 2008 (UTC)
- Nominate and support. Maxim(talk) 22:47, 16 December 2008 (UTC)
- Support, seems an excellent illustration for the article. Could that persistent background crackle not be easily removed, though? ~ mazca t|c 00:49, 20 December 2008 (UTC)
- Maybe, I'm very, very far from being any good at editing sounds; do you know someone who can be poked about it? Maxim(talk) 15:02, 20 December 2008 (UTC)
- I'm not a big fan of classical, and that background crackle is slightly bothersome, but it adds significantly to the article, so support. --Dylan620 Contribs Sign! 01:15, 23 December 2008 (UTC)
Promoted Alessandro Moreschi.ogg --Xclamation point 21:08, 6 January 2009 (UTC)
Not only is it sound, but also video, with some (in my mind) stunning camera angles and shots of the ceremony and the Kremlin. The video appears in National anthem of Russia, and is from the website of the Kremlin (licensed under CC-BY 3.0). I couldn't see any reason that video could be excluded from being promoted to Featured sounds.
- Nominate and support. Russavia Dialogue Stalk me 16:42, 15 December 2008 (UTC)
- Support.—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); 16:55, December 15, 2008 (UTC)
- Support, very useful and good quality media that is, amazingly, free Alex Bakharev (talk) 21:22, 15 December 2008 (UTC)
- Support --Kleinzach 02:31, 16 December 2008 (UTC)
- Support - Tiptoety talk 21:40, 16 December 2008 (UTC)
- Support - My only question is can a video be both a featured picture and featured sound? This does not apply here as it is the audio that is good and not the video. Zginder 2008-12-21T03:11Z (UTC)
Promoted Russian national anthem at Medvedev inauguration 2008.ogv --Xclamation point 03:50, 6 January 2009 (UTC)
It's Caruso and Scotti. No further comment =) Forgive me if there's been a lot of Puccini of late - I did promise WikiProject Opera I'd do my part in the preparations for the Puccini 150th. Shoemaker's Holiday (talk) 19:44, 8 November 2008 (UTC)
- Nominate and support. Shoemaker's Holiday (talk) 19:43, 8 November 2008 (UTC)
- Support - notable recording and historical value, the sound is good. Sufficient. Btw, the singers are great, but the accompaniment... It's just funny. I imagine the bears playing the instruments... Sorry. I want to speak seriously. --Vejvančický (talk) 21:57, 13 November 2008 (UTC)
- Support - --Kleinzach 02:24, 16 December 2008 (UTC)
Promoted La bohème, O Mimì, tu più non torni (Caruso, Scotti).ogg --Xclamation point 03:50, 6 January 2009 (UTC)
It is general knowledge that this formula is arguably the most important in physics, and I think an audio in which the man himself is explaining what it means is worthy of featured status.
- Nominate and support. Diego_pmc Talk 19:29, 3 November 2008 (UTC)
- Support. Einstein explaining his simple yet elegant equation is a treasure. Truthanado (talk) 00:38, 4 November 2008 (UTC)
- Comment A 1948 copyright is claimed here: [1]. Can we confirm the copyright was, indeed, not renewed? Shoemaker's Holiday (talk) 03:01, 4 November 2008 (UTC)
- Can you give me an example of what I should find if the copyright wasn't renewed? I don't really know what I should be looking for. Diego_pmc Talk 08:11, 4 November 2008 (UTC)
- As I said, I do not know what I should find—or what I shouldn't—but all copyright claims I found for Atomic Physics are from 1948. Diego_pmc Talk 09:42, 4 November 2008 (UTC)
- I have to admit I'm not an expert on copyright, but I believe the Library of Congress holds all renewals. If they have anything from Atomic Physics up and say it's out of copyright, we can presume it is. But I'm afraid we do need to get copyright right... Shoemaker's Holiday (talk) 12:30, 4 November 2008 (UTC)
I couldn't find it on loc.gov, but here's the Google results. Diego_pmc Talk 17:39, 4 November 2008 (UTC)
- After some more research, it looks like the film is British, but the Einstein clips are stock footage. However, if we can't get the copyright status sorted, I'm afraid it's going to have to be deleted as copyvio. This would be unfortunate, but what else could we do? Shoemaker's Holiday (talk) 04:09, 8 November 2008 (UTC)
That's too bad... Diego_pmc Talk 07:53, 8 November 2008 (UTC)
- Conditional support: If the copyright was not renewed, otherwise delete. Could maybe do with some restoration too - I'll have a go now, and upload it if the copyright isn't an issue. Dendodge TalkContribs 10:49, 8 November 2008 (UTC)
Done - how's this?
- I'm still not entirely sure about the copyright, but they can both go the IfD together. Dendodge TalkContribs 11:17, 8 November 2008 (UTC)
- Any idea how we could sort out the copyright status? Diego_pmc Talk 12:05, 8 November 2008 (UTC)
- When dealing with the copyright of this there are two things we need to think about, the words and the recording. The words could have been published and could have been renewed or not. The only renewal records online are from books and nothing else even though they could have been renewed. We need to know when and in what medium the words were first published. Zginder 2008-11-08T19:05Z (UTC)
Not promoted: File deleted. --Xclamation point 03:51, 6 January 2009 (UTC)
President Jimmy Carter's speech upon signing the treaty for a staged turnover of the Panama Canal and associated lands from the United States to Panama, 7 September 1977. Appears in Jimmy Carter, Panama Canal, Torrijos–Carter Treaties.
- Conominate and support. DurovaCharge! 21:56, 1 November 2008 (UTC)
- (reserved for conominator)
- Comment Who is the introducer in the beginning? Is he an employee of the U.S. Government? Zginder 2008-11-02T00:16Z (UTC)
- Support Now that the introduction has been cut. Zginder 2008-11-17T20:35Z (UTC)
Promoted Carter Panama Canal speech.ogg --Xclamation point 03:52, 6 January 2009 (UTC)
This is probably Otello's best-known aria, sung by the creator of the role. While the recording quality isn't perfect, it is pretty good for 1903, and, hey, it's the original performer! Isn't that worth a little hit to sound quality?
By the way, I've reduced the hiss as much as I could, but preserving Tamagno's performance had to be the first priority, even if that meant leaving some hiss in. However, this restoration was particularly difficult, so here's the original for comparison, because I think that, with a recording like this - with flaws but historical importance that makes up for them - transparency is particularly necessary.
- Nominate and support. Shoemaker's Holiday (talk) 04:45, 31 October 2008 (UTC)
- Strong support and I prefer the original. As a Verdi lover (especially Otello), I believe this file is worthy to be kept as featured sound. --Caspian blue 06:19, 31 October 2008 (UTC)
- Oppose
Weak supportThis is the famous G&T (matrix 269FT cat 052068). Very important. My reservation is over the quality of the recordings here (of which the unrestored one is the better). My own Nimbus CD version sounds far better (though of course not available to us). Also can we get rid of the pretentious Italian title ('Morte d'Otello') and just call it 'Niun mi tema'? Thank you. --Kleinzach 08:50, 31 October 2008 (UTC) P.S. It's also been issued by Historic Masters [2] and [3]. They will have been working for a master not a 78. --Kleinzach 09:06, 31 October 2008 (UTC) I've changed my response to 'oppose' because of the poor quality of the so-called 'original' here. I think it should be possible to find one less metallic sounding. --Kleinzach 10:17, 2 November 2008 (UTC)- Weel, obviously I can only work with what I have access to. If someone can get me a better-quality copy of it, I can probably do more. As it is, I'm trying to remover hiss at the same pitch s Tamagno's voice, whch leads to compromise and difficulty. =) Shoemaker's Holiday (talk) 16:09, 31 October 2008 (UTC)
- Kleinzach, if you can provide the mentioned sound files here, it would be great to understand your opinion. Honestly, I'm bemused to read your point-out on the well-known alternative name of the aria, "Morte d'Otello".--Caspian blue 00:20, 1 November 2008 (UTC)
- Please listen to this [4]. (As for "Morte d'Otello", I think this should be in English according to the usual WP guidelines, while the actual title "Niun mi tema" stays in Italian.) --Kleinzach 01:51, 1 November 2008 (UTC)
- The Youtube file is not in PD and the quality is not much better than the current nominated file. (I already heard it yesterday)--Caspian blue 02:01, 1 November 2008 (UTC)
- The difference is like night and day on my headphones. The metallic slicing sound disappears. (The Youtube file is presumably an mp3 of the master transfer.) My point, however, is that we should be using a better 'original' than the substandard one presented here. Also there isn't much reason to make a poor-quality file available here, when there is a much better one already available on the net which we can link to because it's out of copyright anyway. --Kleinzach 03:12, 4 November 2008 (UTC)
- Well, that is not what I meant for saying "provide files" to you. We're judging on whether presented limited resources here are qualified for featured contents or not. I'd say my best Otello would be not obtainable as a PD file in my life. If you can provide "better original files" by yourself, I'm happy for that.--Caspian blue 17:39, 5 November 2008 (UTC)
- The difference is like night and day on my headphones. The metallic slicing sound disappears. (The Youtube file is presumably an mp3 of the master transfer.) My point, however, is that we should be using a better 'original' than the substandard one presented here. Also there isn't much reason to make a poor-quality file available here, when there is a much better one already available on the net which we can link to because it's out of copyright anyway. --Kleinzach 03:12, 4 November 2008 (UTC)
- The Youtube file is not in PD and the quality is not much better than the current nominated file. (I already heard it yesterday)--Caspian blue 02:01, 1 November 2008 (UTC)
- Please listen to this [4]. (As for "Morte d'Otello", I think this should be in English according to the usual WP guidelines, while the actual title "Niun mi tema" stays in Italian.) --Kleinzach 01:51, 1 November 2008 (UTC)
Support The sound quality of the restored version is not so bad. Especially, when we take into consideration abslute notability - the premiere performer of the famous opera. --Vejvančický (talk) 23:10, 6 November 2008 (UTC)
Promoted Giuseppe Verdi, Francesco_Tamagno,_Morte_d'Otello_(Niun_mi_tema).ogg --Xclamation point 03:54, 6 January 2009 (UTC)
I think this is a fine recording In addition, it's nearly complete: excepting some recitatives, it includes at least a verse of pretty much every song in the first half of Act I. Unfortunately, I'm afraid this is all I can get of it: Part 3 turned out to be a misfiled part 2, and, while I may be able to do something with Part 4, it's not going to be easy. Still, this is more material on one opera than we have for any composer (I haven't yet done enough work on the Puccini project). I still think they are very good performances, and deserve featuring. If we find the other parts, they will probably deserve featuring as well.
We have no Gilbert and Sullivan, and really should. I think this would go a long way towards rectifying that. Please note, however, that I've been sitting on these for about a month or two trying to get part 3. If there's problems (I'm too close to judge anymore), I may be able to use the skills I've learned in that time to overcome them.
Shoemaker's Holiday (talk) 03:20, 28 October 2008 (UTC)
- Nominate and support. Shoemaker's Holiday (talk) 03:20, 28 October 2008 (UTC)
- Support (both) - Historically important, and good quality for the era, restorer's efforts have been time well spent. ++Lar: t/c 19:24, 1 November 2008 (UTC)
- Strong support: This is a great quality file that has high EV and will give us a new composer. Dendodge TalkContribs 10:40, 8 November 2008 (UTC)
- Support both. Good recording, skilled vocalists, good enunciation makes lyrics more intelligible than many modern recordings. Edison (talk) 00:03, 24 November 2008 (UTC)
- Oppose - in the absence of documentation. No other reservations, but this is a historic recording so we need full details. --Kleinzach 02:45, 16 December 2008 (UTC)
Promoted both --Xclamation point 03:54, 6 January 2009 (UTC)
This is Bush's last State of the Union Address, and it is good quality (compared to some other SOTU addresses). It appears in 2008 State of the Union Address, and is from the White House website. Because it is a work of the Federal Government, it is public domain under Title 17, Chapter 1, Section 105 of the United States Code.
- Nominate and support. Xclamation point 02:52, 3 January 2009 (UTC)
- Support JonCatalán(Talk) 05:07, 10 January 2009 (UTC)
- Support Although the beginning sounds a bit fuzzy (maybe that's because she's tapping on something), the rest of the sound is good quality. The Helpful One 17:14, 11 January 2009 (UTC)
- Support – Zginder 2009-01-11T18:04Z (UTC)
Promoted File:George Bush 2008 State of the Union Address.ogg -- PeterSymonds (talk) 18:28, 11 January 2009 (UTC)
A highly notable operatic soprano sings Giacomo Puccini's Tosca, and does it divinely. While not perfect, given the year, it's still very good indeed. This is one of the last recordings of Destinn during her prime: She was put under house arrest during WWI, and would not be able to return to the stage until 1919. The gap sent her career into a terminal decline, and, as far as I'm aware, there are no good recordings after 1914.
- Nominate and support. Shoemaker's Holiday (talk) 04:55, 6 January 2009 (UTC)
- Support Thank you for uploading Destinnová, great for Wikipedia. The recording isn´t perfect, but her voice is simply wonderful.--Vejvančický (talk) 13:24, 6 January 2009 (UTC)
- Support Zginder 2009-01-07T20:27Z (UTC)
Promoted Emmy Destinn, Vissi_d'arte (Tosca).ogg --Xclamation point 11:49, 12 January 2009 (UTC)
This set of sound files is the entire Water Music Suite in D Major by George Frideric Handel. It is a good quality set, and it also has one very famous movement, II. Alla Hornpipe. This sound file appears in Water Music (Handel).
- Nominate and support. Xclamation point 04:06, 7 January 2009 (UTC)
- Please give the details of the recording. --Kleinzach 06:17, 7 January 2009 (UTC)
- I checked the source for this - Archive.org gives no details as to who recorded it, when, or where. Barring that information, I think we're going to have to presume this is in copyright and delete it. (Archive.org is a good source, but does need to be used with some caution - ever seen how on Commons people will upload copyrighted recordings of PD-old works as PD-old, not realising that the performers could also claim a copyright? Same thing can happen there.) Shoemaker's Holiday (talk) 09:31, 7 January 2009 (UTC)
- I have emailed the uploader, asking about what license it is, and about who the performers are. Xclamation point 17:41, 7 January 2009 (UTC)
- I checked the source for this - Archive.org gives no details as to who recorded it, when, or where. Barring that information, I think we're going to have to presume this is in copyright and delete it. (Archive.org is a good source, but does need to be used with some caution - ever seen how on Commons people will upload copyrighted recordings of PD-old works as PD-old, not realising that the performers could also claim a copyright? Same thing can happen there.) Shoemaker's Holiday (talk) 09:31, 7 January 2009 (UTC)
- Please give the details of the recording. --Kleinzach 06:17, 7 January 2009 (UTC)
Withdrawn Xclamation point 00:22, 15 January 2009 (UTC)
One of the most important events of the United States civil rights era was the enactment of the Civil Rights Act of 1964. Lyndon Johnson's words about establishing equality are highly encyclopedic and particularly relevant in light of the historic event due to take place this month. Seems fitting to nominate this now. Appears at Lyndon B. Johnson and Civil Rights Act of 1964. Transcript available at Wikisource.[5]
- Nominate and support. DurovaCharge! 03:25, 11 January 2009 (UTC)
- Support Shoemaker's Holiday (talk) 04:40, 12 January 2009 (UTC)
- Support Zginder 2009-01-17T19:21Z (UTC)
Promoted LBJ Civil Rights signing 1964 edited.ogg --Xclamation point 23:28, 17 January 2009 (UTC)
This is a moment that millions of people in the United States and the rest of the world were waiting for. It is a lot of historical significance, as it marks the end of WWII. While it may not be great quality, it is high encyclopedic value. Appears in Surrender of Japan.
- Nominate and support. Xclamation point 12:46, 16 January 2009 (UTC)
- Support I like these historic speeches, we need more. Zginder 2009-01-17T19:09Z (UTC)
- Strong support - Per Zginder - and that it sounds really, really good, especially for its time. Been almost 65 years already, wow.Mitch32(Go Syracuse) 23:57, 17 January 2009 (UTC)
- Support of course. Top EV. DurovaCharge! 18:34, 20 January 2009 (UTC)
Promoted Harry Truman announcing surrender of Japan.ogg -- PeterSymonds (talk) 21:36, 22 January 2009 (UTC)
This sound file, along with Harry Truman Announcing Surrender Of Germany.ogg, provide a set of speeches that show the end of World War II. This is a powerful speech, as it is the moment that millions of people across the world were waiting for for years. This provided people with a glimpse of hope that the war would soon be over, which happened 4 months later when Japan surrendered.
- Nominate and support. Xclamation point 02:52, 18 January 2009 (UTC)
- Support Immense encyclopedic value and it sounds more or less good; there is some crackling, but Truman's speech is clear. JonCatalán(Talk) 20:16, 19 January 2009 (UTC)
- Support Sounds good for its age. Zginder 2009-01-21T03:20Z (UTC)
Promoted Harry Truman Announcing Surrender Of Germany.ogg -- PeterSymonds (talk) 16:55, 25 January 2009 (UTC)
This was a moment of great fear for the people listening, as this was the closest the United States has come to nuclear war. This is a very important address in the history of the United States, and due to the encyclopedic value, it would makes a good featured sound. It appears in John F. Kennedy and Cuban Missile Crisis.
- Nominate and support. Xclamation point 05:55, 18 January 2009 (UTC)
- Support; the sound is good on my speakers. JonCatalán(Talk) 20:07, 19 January 2009 (UTC)
- Support Meets the criteria. Zginder 2009-01-22T23:37Z (UTC)
Promoted John F Kennedy Address on the Buildup of Arms in Cuba.ogg -- PeterSymonds (talk) 17:34, 25 January 2009 (UTC)
This is a high quality recording of this work, which was recorded by some very famous operatic vocalists of the period (such as Caruso) and was written by Verdi, a well-known composer. This sound file appears in:
Therefore, due to its encyclopedic value and its high recording quality, I believe this would make a perfect featured sound.
- Nominate and support. Dendodge TalkContribs 21:46, 15 January 2009 (UTC)
- Oppose (conditional on replacing the file) There's a strange buzzing and vibrating sound on this (which I'm not hearing elsewhere, so I don't think this is just my equipment and not an artifact of the original either). (I've just listened to it on www.mtraks.com and their version is fine.) The recording itself is important, and worth putting on the singers biographies (if we can get a clean clip). However please resist the temptation to spam your new discovery on multiple pages. It doesn't belong on Giuseppe Verdi and Un ballo in maschera where it is unrepresentative, if not actually offputting, for readers new to opera. --Kleinzach 03:16, 16 January 2009 (UTC)
- Kleinzach, kindly do not bite the relative newbies to the process, thank you. Shoemaker's Holiday (talk) 09:25, 16 January 2009 (UTC)
- Shoemaker's Holiday: The issue here is the background noise, please don't resort to silly diversions. (Relative newbies, indeed!) --Kleinzach 11:08, 16 January 2009 (UTC)
- And was the comments about spam, claims that it's offputting, and the like necessary? Shoemaker's Holiday (talk) 12:59, 16 January 2009 (UTC)
- Shoemaker's Holiday: The issue here is the background noise, please don't resort to silly diversions. (Relative newbies, indeed!) --Kleinzach 11:08, 16 January 2009 (UTC)
- Kleinzach, kindly do not bite the relative newbies to the process, thank you. Shoemaker's Holiday (talk) 09:25, 16 January 2009 (UTC)
- Shoemaker's Holiday: I am indeed still hopeful that you will come to understand that the value of these files depends on where they are put. --Kleinzach 06:27, 19 January 2009 (UTC)
- I'm sorry - I can't quite hear the buzz (but I am on a laptop, so that might affect it). Is it persistent or does it occur only at certain points? If it's only the loud bits, it might have been a problem with the .ogg compression and reducing the gain might fix it, at the expense of reducing the volume. Dendodge TalkContribs 15:57, 16 January 2009 (UTC)
- It's persistent and amplified by the louder passages - but I'm now hearing it on other WP files as well (like the two immediately following this) - which presumably means the problem is not this particular file. Has there been any change to the way WP handles these files recently? Does anyone know? I'm not getting the buzz on non-WP sound files, so it seems to be something specific to WP. --Kleinzach 05:35, 19 January 2009 (UTC)
- Here is a short example on www.mtraks.com (it starts at 00:30 here) for comparison. Their version is slightly better, but both recordings are almost identical in my opinion. The sound quality isn't decisive element in this case. --Vejvančický (talk) 08:24, 19 January 2009 (UTC)
- It's persistent and amplified by the louder passages - but I'm now hearing it on other WP files as well (like the two immediately following this) - which presumably means the problem is not this particular file. Has there been any change to the way WP handles these files recently? Does anyone know? I'm not getting the buzz on non-WP sound files, so it seems to be something specific to WP. --Kleinzach 05:35, 19 January 2009 (UTC)
- I'm sorry - I can't quite hear the buzz (but I am on a laptop, so that might affect it). Is it persistent or does it occur only at certain points? If it's only the loud bits, it might have been a problem with the .ogg compression and reducing the gain might fix it, at the expense of reducing the volume. Dendodge TalkContribs 15:57, 16 January 2009 (UTC)
- Support - I don't hear the noise, and it appears to be a phantom artefact. Shoemaker's Holiday (talk) 14:41, 21 January 2009 (UTC)
- Support I don't hear that noise either. Perhaps try a re-review on a different computer, Kleinzach? High ev and sounds excellent for a 1915 recording. Perhaps someone will persuade an opera company to copyleft it's performances, but until that happens this is likely the best we can get. DurovaCharge! 23:16, 26 January 2009 (UTC)
Promoted Caruso et al - È scherzo od è follia.ogg --Xclamation point 04:58, 29 January 2009 (UTC)