Wikipedia:Featured portal candidates/Portal:Geography

The following is an archived discussion of a featured portal candidate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the portal's talk page or in Wikipedia talk:Featured portal candidates. No further edits should be made to this page.

The portal was promoted by OhanaUnited 18:43, 1 May 2013 [1].

Portal:Geography

Notified: Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Mountains , Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Science ‎, Portal talk:Geography, Wikipedia:Australian Wikipedians' notice board, Wikipedia talk:WikiProject South America, Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Geology, Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Europe , Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Oceans, Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Geography, User talk:Cirt , Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Antarctica, Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Asia, Wikipedia talk:WikiProject North America , Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Africa. — Cirt (talk) 21:28, 4 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Self-nomination. See archived peer review. I believe the portal meets the standards for Featured Portal status. Thank you for your time, — Cirt (talk) 21:22, 4 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Apologies in advance:

• Selected articles should all be roughly the same size as each other, give or take a half line or so, in order to make sure that the random selection does not overly effect the shape of the portal itself. Therefore:
  • Selected articles 1, 5, 7, 21 through 25, 27, and 30 are all too short
  • Selected articles 8, 11, 16, and 16 are too long.
• Selected biographies should also all roughly be the same size as each other. Selected biographes 2, 10, 14, and (to a lesser degree) 17 are all too short.
• Selected quotes 1, 3, 19, 20, 21, 26, 28, 29, and 30 are all primarily focused on things other than geography. Of those listed, perhaps only 21 is passable.
• The DYKs for PlumpJack Winery, Lympstone Commando railway station, Nanjing Massacre Memorial Hall, Craigiehall, Yorkshire Museum, opt-outs， John Grant's， Douglas County Courthouse， Schuster Building, beer museum, Ballard Carnegie Library, and Altes Stadthaus all strike me as being too distantly related to Geography to warrant inclusion.
• Portal:Geography/DYK/23 is incomplete

That's quite a bit to do, but I think that it all needs doing before this can be called an FPO. Sven Manguard Wha? 01:04, 11 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Reply to comments by Sven Manguard

Thanks very much for the specific suggestions, I'll get on some of these recommendations soon, and address it back here. — Cirt (talk) 05:44, 11 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

1. Selected articles = swapped out some where I could, elsewhere expanded text of others.
2. Selected bios = swapped out the shorter ones.
3. Selected quotes = swapped out those that were complained about, above.
4. DYKs = swapped out those that were not up to the satisfaction of the reviewer, above.

Hopefully this is satisfactory, — Cirt (talk) 19:59, 12 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I'm still seeing a very large variance between the largest and smallest selections in some of the randomized sections. Take a look at this screenshot from Portal:Massachusetts. All of the items are, when the image and everything is factored in, almost the same size. This allows for a very consistent layout for the portal itself. The selected article on Karnataka is almost twice the size as the selected article Mount Tambora when it appears in the Portal:Geography main view, and that throws things out of alignment. I really don't care what size you choose, as I am notorious for using larger than traditional sizes for my article blurbs, what's important is that you keep all of the selections that are in the same "Selected ____" roughly the same size. If you give me a few days, I'll be able to update you as to if I can get more hands on in fixing it, but I can't make any promises now. I haven't looked at the other sections yet, I can do that later. Sven Manguard Wha? 19:34, 4 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for offering to help fix this, I really appreciate that. I'll look into it a bit more as well and make some more fixes. Keep me posted here, — Cirt (talk) 19:42, 4 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

On an unrelated note, would it be possible to use template:wide image for the panoramas? We'd need two separate format templates, but I don't think any of the portal syntax would have an issue with that. Thoughts? Sven Manguard Wha? 01:47, 5 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Perhaps you can try it out and update here with a link, as an example? — Cirt (talk) 02:01, 5 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

You're asking me to do something that requires actual knowledge of templates. I can't do that; all I can do is "borrow" existing code. Sven Manguard Wha? 02:11, 5 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Well, there's an example at Portal:Oregon/Selected panorama. — Cirt (talk) 02:18, 5 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Would you be willing to credit me as a co-nominator if I go in and even out all of the articles, and do some miscellaneous other repairs? Sven Manguard Wha? 05:47, 9 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Sure, that would be lovely, thank you for the help! — Cirt (talk) 22:09, 9 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Huzzah! Now I can work extensively on it without feeling like I have a conflict of interest when I cast a support vote. Weird, entirely self imposed ethical quandary avoided! Sven Manguard Wha? 23:28, 9 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Okay, sounds great. — Cirt (talk) 04:50, 10 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

• Support. As nominator. — Cirt (talk) 04:50, 10 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

• Below is the stuff I will be doing over the next <indefinite amount of time>. Sven Manguard Wha? 04:58, 15 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Standardize selected article lengths	not yet done
Standardize selected biography lengths	Done
Bring selected biography entries to 20	Done
Standardize citation style for quotes	Done
Fix image sizes	Done

The four bios I am thinking of adding are Richard Hakluyt, James Tod, Shen Kuo, and George Cressey. The first three are FAs, the fourth a GA (I'd prefer an FA if one can be found though.) Sven Manguard Wha? 05:09, 15 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

All looks great, as long as we stay quality of WP:GA or above. :) — Cirt (talk) 22:20, 15 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

The image at George Cressey's article is non-free, and I can't think of either a good free replacement or a good replacement person. I've done the other three, and I'm going to punt the 20th bio down the road until the rest is done. Sven Manguard Wha? 00:06, 16 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Maybe we could find a different bio instead of George Cressey, one that happens to have an available free use image? — Cirt (talk) 01:51, 17 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Changed the sizes of all of the images. Selections 25 and especially 26 and 27 really don't have good dimensions, but I did what I could. 3/5ths of the tasks I wanted completed are done. This is also Sven Manguard 22:17, 20 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

With the addition of Fridtjof Nansen, we now have 20 biographes, all FA quality, and all within a third of a line in size from each other (on the smaller screen I'm using to do this). This is also Sven Manguard 22:42, 20 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Oh, and while I origonally had no intention of claiming Wikicup points for this, after spending six hours reading through every FA quality bio I could find before getting to Nansen (why couldn't his name have been Fridtjof Ansen?!), I sure as hell am going to claim points now. :S This is also Sven Manguard 22:45, 20 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

THANK YOU very much, things are looking a lot better, major quality improvements. Thanks again, — Cirt (talk) 23:51, 20 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I don't (formally) have OCD, but I have enough of the tendencies that it makes portalcraft a natural fit for me. I only wish that I had more time to do it. Alas, RL commitments keep me away too often... Sven Manguard Wha? 05:21, 21 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah, agreed that portal quality improvement is fun stuff. — Cirt (talk) 14:54, 21 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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