Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/SZA discography/archive1
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- Nominator(s): Elias 🪐 (dreaming of Saturn; talk here) 07:22, 4 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
SZA. You might know her from "Kill Bill" or "Snooze", or the fact that she has a whimsical name that rhymes with sizzle and scissor, or the dozens of passe jokes about how she lies all the time. She has been in the game for over a decade, changing the contemporary R&B (and now pop) scene as she goes with her highly acclaimed works. Her first two albums are in Rolling Stone's GOAT list, and the first one (2017) has never left the US charts. Dive into her relatively short discography here. Elias 🪐 (dreaming of Saturn; talk here) 07:22, 4 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Dylan620
I'm going to take a look at this in the coming days. Dylan620 (he/him • talk • edits) 00:36, 23 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- Some comments:
- The lede feels a bit short, even for someone like SZA with a relatively small discography. It jumps right into a rough chronology of her works without providing much of a background for the beginning of her career. I looked back through solo discographies that have been featured within the past year or so and noticed that those of Angeline Quinto and Esmée Denters both give a brief description early on of how their respective careers began. In SZA#2011–2014: Career beginnings and EPs, it is mentioned that SZA met Top Dawg reps in 2011; after See.SZA.Run and S, she signed with the label, which then released Z. Maybe something about this could be incorporated into the opening paragraph?
- There's a bit too much early mention of SOS for my liking. Mentioning that Ctrl was a constant presence on the Billboard 200 even through the release of SOS is pertinent and reasonable, but the final sentence of the first paragraph puts SOS's inclusion on the Rolling Stone top 500 list into focus before there's any mention of what she released in between the two albums. It jumps forward to 2023 when the surrounding text details the 2017–18 timeframe. The sentence itself is written just fine, but it feels like something that should be at or near the end of the lede instead of where it is right now.
...and has charted for over five subsequent years
: Replacing "over" with "more than" would work better here.SZA appeared in some film soundtracks
: in → on- The expected upcoming release of Lana should probably be mentioned in the lede.
- Since there is prose later on pertaining to unreleased songs, I would recommend adding something about this to the lede as well.
- The table in §Music videos needs a caption, both per MOS:DTAB and in keeping with the rest of the tables.
- To maintain consistency with the rest of the table captions, a comma should be added after the "list of [release type]s" clauses in the captions for the second and third tables in §Albums; the word "selected" should also be added to the second table caption.
- For whatever reason, the UK Singles Chart source (ref 17 at time of writing) makes no mention of "No Love"; however, that song's UK chart position is verified by the song's page on the UK Charts' website.
- Sources need to be added to the entries for "Easy Bake" and "Never Lose Me" in the table at §Guest appearances – I was told in a previous FLC (granted, this was 7 years ago) that wikilinking the articles isn't enough to verify the information.
- Everything else looks great. Aside from the MV section, the tables are all properly formatted. I am impressed by the usage of hover text to elucidate the meaning of each chart initialism. IIRC it is unusual for discography articles to have prose in any sections other than the lede, but §Unreleased songs is a stellar example of how it can be done. Dylan620 (he/him • talk • edits) 21:01, 26 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- Thank you for your comments, @Dylan620. I hope everything has been addressed. Elias 🪐 (dreaming of Saturn; talk here) 12:56, 27 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- Much, much better. The only additional improvement I can think of is that you might want to expand the MV table caption a bit to mention other column fields, such as the years and directors. Aside from that, this looks just about good to go. Support. Dylan620 (he/him • talk • edits) 20:20, 27 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- Thank you for your comments, @Dylan620. I hope everything has been addressed. Elias 🪐 (dreaming of Saturn; talk here) 12:56, 27 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Comments from ZooBlazer
The article looks pretty good to me, so I mostly.just have nitpicks.
- "From 2017 to 2022, as SZA prepared for her second studio album's release, she appeared on a few film soundtracks" --> You could probably remove "a few"
- Good point; done
- "with 3.172 million units sold" --> Is it normal to use three decimal places in these types of articles?
- I am unsure, but it is the figure the cited source uses, so I am inclined to keep it
- "The next release after SOS is Lana" --> Does it make more sense to say "will be"?
- "Release" here is meant to be a noun and is taken to be synonymous with album/project. The sentence is true as you read it, so "is" makes sense here
- "Originally intended to be SOS's deluxe reissue, Lana evolved into its own project, which..." --> Lana was originally intended to be SOS's deluxe reissue, but evolved into its own project, which...
- Done
@ZooBlazer Responses made. Thank you for your comments. Elias 🪐 (dreaming of Saturn; talk here) 05:16, 1 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- Looks good to me. Support -- ZooBlazer 05:33, 1 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Image review - passes
- File:SZA14 (13458538654).jpg is the only image used.
- Properly licensed
- Use in article obviously makes sense
- Usually with FLC and FAC reviews I prefer alt text to be more than "Refer to caption", but I'll leave it up to you to keep or change it.
That's all I have. Like I said, mostly nitpicks. The article is in pretty good shape, which I expect coming from you. If you have the interest and time, I also have an open FLC if you'd like to have a look. -- ZooBlazer 03:59, 28 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- Meant to say this passes. The alt text thing isn't something to hold it back from becoming a FL. -- ZooBlazer 05:35, 1 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Source review - Pass
- Reference 7/8 has a list of authors, I know it's impossible to list them all, but a few of them followed by "et al." could be utilized. See Template:Cite web for documentation.
- The Rolling Stone article's byline credits the entire publication, so I have decided not to add the author parameter. I hope this is reasonable.
- Billboard should be linked in references 35, 36, 40, 101, 102, and 104 for consistency with the rest of uses from that source.
- Done
- References 185 and 186 have authors that can be listed.
- Listed
- Only 176 of 194 sources are archived, it may be useful to run IABot here and see if it's picks up any additional archives. If it doesn't, you may need to manually archive some. I know not everything (particularly videos) can be archived easily, but a few of the sources I checked that weren't archived were from direct URL's. Those should be archived whether it be done automatically or manually.
- Unfortunately I cannot archive them; all (but one) are generated by a template which does not have archive parameters for most use cases. The same goes for [22] which is "Sveriges Officiella Topplista" because it is used for new peaks which constantly are updated.
- Spot-checked 10 random sources and they confirmed they're cited for.
Only a few notes. Great work on the list! TheDoctorWho (talk) 06:25, 13 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- Thank you for your insightful source review. I will get to this within the week, when I am less busy with real-life matters. Elias 🪐 (dreaming of Saturn; talk here) 14:41, 16 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- @TheDoctorWho, I have provided my responses to everything. Elias 🪐 (dreaming of Saturn; talk here) 05:09, 17 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- I'm satisfied with the notes you have provided, and the updates have been made. The source review passes. TheDoctorWho (talk) 05:30, 17 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- @TheDoctorWho, I have provided my responses to everything. Elias 🪐 (dreaming of Saturn; talk here) 05:09, 17 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Promoting. --PresN 20:25, 20 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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