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List of international goals scored by Gareth Bale

List of international goals scored by Gareth Bale (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)

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Nominator(s): Kosack (talk) 18:58, 6 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Another Welsh national side related list for me, inline with the numerous other international top goalscorer lists that have been promoted recently. I believe this meets the same standards that the rest have achieved. Look forward to any comments. Kosack (talk) 18:58, 6 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Comments from ChrisTheDude
  • "scoring a hat-trick in a against China" - spot the missing word ;-) - Woops, done
  • "every FIFA World Cup and European Championship they've entered" - don't use contractions
  • In fact are the words "they've entered" even needed? It's not like there have been World Cups/Euros which Wales haven't entered..... -Removed
  • "The side reached the semi-finals" - could be made slightly clearer which tournament this actually refers to - reworded
  • "He has scored more times in qualifying matches than in any other type with 20 goals. His other goals include three in friendly matches, three in the China Cup and two in the UEFA Nations League" - might be worth mentioning the three goals at Euro 2016 again, because my first thought on reading this bit was "hang on, that doesn't add up to 31??" - Added the extra goals
  • Think that's it from me...... -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 07:28, 7 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]
@ChrisTheDude: Thanks very much for the review, I think I've fixed all of the above issues. Let me know if there is anything else. Kosack (talk) 18:30, 8 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Comments from KingSkyLord

Hey @Kosack, I noticed that you reverted my good faith edits from yesterday, and I honestly think that that was not a great idea. There are a lot of apparent flaws with the prose that should be fixed.

Hi KingSkyLord, I reverted your additions as there were some questionable terms introduced, such as "since Robert Earnshaw put three past Scotland" and "helping Cymru successfully qualify". I did reintroduce some of your additions immediately after. Kosack (talk) 06:49, 15 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • "The goal was his seventh during the qualifying campaign." → "The" should be changed to "That" OR that sentence should be combined with the first one OR removed entirely. Scoring 7 goals in 10 games is impressive, but that would only place him joint-sixth (in qualification statistics) with four other players.
I don't particularly agree with some of one but I've expanded the sentence slightly to add more relevance. Kosack (talk) 06:49, 15 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • "At the tournament, Bale scored in all three of Wales' group matches, victories over Slovakia and Russia and a defeat to England, as Wales reached the semi-finals." → Yikes, this sentence is bad and should be rewritten to "At the tournament, Bale scored against all three group stage opponents: Slovakia, England, and Russia, as he helped Wales reach the semi-finals."
Again, I'm not convinced your alternative is an improvement but I've reworded slightly, hopefully as a compromise. Kosack (talk) 08:16, 15 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • "Bale started the match on 26 goals, having not scored an international goal for nearly two years,[7] two short of Ian Rush' s record tally." →
    • First off, references should not be placed mid-sentence. It should be placed at the end of the sentence.
The ref is not mid sentence, it's after punctuation which I believe is perfectly acceptable. Kosack (talk) 06:24, 15 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]
    • Second off, that sentence is also really awkward and sounds weird. I would much prefer if it were rewritten as: "Entering the match he had not scored an international goal in 18 months, having only scored 26 international goals since 2006; leaving him two goals short of Ian Rush's record tally."
I don't believe "having only scored 26 international goals since 2006" is suitable. Sounds almost like you're saying his 26 was a poor record. Reworded slightly Kosack (talk) 06:49, 15 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • "to equal Rush's record before overtaking" → Comma after "record" - Done
  • As a result of his hat-trick, he has scored more times against China than any other opponent with three goals. → This is wrong. He has also scored three goals against Andorra. So, the sentence should be removed entirely. I would say to correct it and add Andorra as well as China, but that has no relevance with the previous sentence. If you are going to keep that sentence, it would be better to add that to the third paragraph rather than the second, since the third paragraph talks about his general statistics and the second talks about his Euro 2016 run and goal progression. -Done
  • "the finals of one tournament, Euro 2016" → Comma should be changed to Colon - Done
Comments by SounderBruce

Just a quick look, mainly focusing on sourcing.

  • Citations 7 and 34 point to the same match on Soccerway, but with different links.
  • Links to some of the sources would be appreciated (e.g. RSSSF).
  • Is "South Wales Argus" supposed to be an italicized publication or just a publisher?
  • Last sentence in the first paragraph could use an inline citation.
  • The date that Bale surpassed the Welsh record is worth listing; also, "2018" can be omitted from China Cup.

Looks good aside from those minor details. SounderBruce 21:43, 21 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@SounderBruce: Thanks for the review, I've addressed the issues you listed above. Let me know if there's anything else. Kosack (talk) 08:26, 22 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Looks great. Support and good luck. SounderBruce 16:40, 22 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]
@Giants2008: Thanks, fixed those refs now. Kosack (talk) 06:40, 23 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Source review passed; promoting. --PresN 20:30, 29 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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