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The list was promoted by The Rambling Man 07:11, 18 September 2012 [1].

List of international cricket five-wicket hauls at Brabourne Stadium

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Nominator(s): Around The Globeसत्यमेव जयते 09:21, 16 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I am nominating this for featured list because I feel it meets FL criteria. Though there is no FL by fiver/ground, Iv compared it to the existing FLs by century/ground and it looks good. Around The Globeसत्यमेव जयते 09:21, 16 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Resolved comments from ♛♚★Vaibhav Jain★♚♛ Talk Email 13:14, 20 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Comments

A very unique idea, and should be a FL soon-

  • 4 Par are really too much as per WP:LEAD. What I can suggest is, bring the definition of five-wicket haul to the top; and merge the first and second para.
  • You need to be more descriptive. Alt text is for those brothers and sisters who are not able to see. Alt text generally mean the visual description of the picture, like instead of "Indian fast-bowler Zaheer Khan", you should add "A dark skinned person ... wearing white shirt ... cricket field can be seen in background ... bla bla bla".
  • Push the bowler column before the date one.
  • The 3 symbols should come first instead of being the last.
  • Iv chanhed "Winning Team" to "Result". Its a different from the player list because the player normally plays for just one team. Iv followed the format used in century lists which are of FL status, the list mentions both teams so one need not look anywhere else anyways. Around The Globeसत्यमेव जयते 11:56, 18 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • Agreed, but the main purpose of the column is to know that chances of winning at this stadium when a bowler has got a fifer. "Win", "Lost", "Draw" and "NR" are the best options. Further its your wish.
  • "Runs" are not sorting correctly.
  • Why is the ODI table sortable when there is just one five wicket haul?
  • I have made it unsortable.
  • The No. column is just wasting space.
  • "match in 2006.[14] [15]": remove the space.
  • A reader will like to know which teams played in the T20I.
Good work overall. Hindustan Zinda bad 16:17, 16 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Links

  • Ref. no. 7 is a dead link.
  • Ref. 16, 21 and 22 does not mention either publisher or work criteria. Do have a look.--Vyom25 (talk) 12:14, 18 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Resolved comments from —Vensatry (Ping me) 09:04, 30 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Initial comments
  • West Indies, India and Pakistan – linked twice in the lead
  • Corrected
  • Twenty20 International->Twenty20 International (T20I)
  • "fewer than 40 bowlers have taken more than 15 five-wicket hauls at the international level in their cricketing careers." – I feel this is not necessary in this list as it talks about a ground rather than a player.
  • This is generally used in the bowlers' list. You can change this by adding a similar statistic for ground —Vensatry (Ping me) 14:37, 27 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • Runs column doesn't sort correctly
  • It's because you're not using the sort technique correctly. If you look at any of the other cricket five-wicket haul lists, you'll see that the hidden sort number is derived from the number of wickets taken and the number of runs conceded. The Rambling Man (talk) 13:55, 20 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • Same with wickets
  • Since the ODI table has only one entry there is no need for sortability
  • I don't think an explanation of Result is needed in the key, instead use Draw
  • "Won" and "Lost" are understandable to everyone and so is result. Draw may not be obvious to someone who has very little knowledge about cricket —Vensatry (Ping me) 14:37, 27 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • I personally prefer the result link as if someone doesn't know cricket as well, even win and loss are explained on the page as is draw and no-result. Around The Globeसत्यमेव जयते 06:49, 28 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • Convert all hyphens to en dashes in the refs
  • ESPNcricinfo.com->ESPNcricinfo
  • Why is BBC News italicized in ref #15
  • I'd suggest a better image for the lead. There are quite a few good quality (high resolution) images available in the commons
    —Vensatry (Ping me) 13:02, 18 August 2012 (UTC)    [reply]
Further comments
  • Ref #1 should have its caps reduced per MOS:CAPS. Also check for redirect
changed ref. Around The Globeसत्यमेव जयते 08:47, 28 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • Don't use hardcoded URLs in publisher parameters. Also "CricketArchive" shouldn't be italicsed —Vensatry (Ping me) 11:01, 28 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • Ref #7 is available online. Complete this missing ref by adding author and access date parameters. Also Canberra Times being a newspaper, should be italicised in the ref. Remove italics from the "newspaper" parameter as it will italicise the value by default
  • Not done. Use the archive URL format. Also fill in the missing parameters such as author and access dates —Vensatry (Ping me) 11:01, 28 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • Indian Express->The Indian Express

—Vensatry (Ping me) 07:20, 28 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Resolved comments from Giants2008 (Talk) 20:05, 8 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Comments –
  • "and has played host to Ranji Trophy matches (including seventeen finals), Indian Premier League matches, as well as being...". For this to work, remove the first comma and place "and", which will leave "and has played host to Ranji Trophy matches (including seventeen finals) and Indian Premier League matches, as well as being...".
  • One more thing here: the space before reference 1 should be removed. Giants2008 (Talk) 18:07, 30 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • "The best bowling figures ... is Irfan Pathan's two wickets for thirty four runs." "is" → "are".
  • In the photo caption, the en dash in "five–wicket" should be a regular hyphen, per its usage in the second paragraph and how I've generally seen the term used here.
  • Still see the en dash in the caption (this is in the lead photo). Giants2008 (Talk) 18:07, 30 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • The Bowler column is sorting universally by first name. I understand that some of the countries like India have this method, but does that apply for people like Graham McKenzie and Prior Jones?
  • I was under the impression that we should be sorting people by last name unless we have a good reason not to. I know that sorting by first name is the preferred method for some countries' players, but I don't think nations like Australia and the West Indies are among them. Does anyone else with more knowledge on cricket-related sorting have any input? Giants2008 (Talk) 18:07, 30 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • The Opposing Team column should have its second word decapitalized.
  • The Runs column isn't sorting properly, although you probably knew that already.
  • In the Result column, there's no need to capitalize the second word in each instance of Match Drawn.
  • Publishers of refs 7 and 8 should be italicized. Giants2008 (Talk) 01:19, 24 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]


Resolved comments from NapHit (talk) 16:02, 6 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Comments
  • "when India beat Australia by 7 wickets in 2007" MOS:NUM recommends numbers bellow ten be spelled out rather than in digits
  • "for West Indies... should be a "the" before West Indies
  • "The first Indian to take a five-wicket haul in a Test at the Brabourne was Vinoo Mankad" comma after Mankad
  • "taking eleven wickets in a match against the West Indies in 1966." -> when he took eleven wickets against the West Indies in 1966.
  • "In all, twelve bowlers..." In all, is redundant
  • No need to keep using One Day International when provide an abbreviation, use the abbreviation instead
  • "Sri Lankan bowler Farveez Maharoof is the only bowler to have taken a five-wicket haul at the ground in a One Day International, doing so versus the West Indies during an ICC Champions Trophy qualifying match in 2006." -> Sri Lankan bowler Farveez Maharoof five wicket haul against the West Indies in 2006, is the only one achieved during an ODI."
  • "thirty four" -> thirty-four
  • No reason for the font size to be below normal size, remove the coding that causes this
  • As Giants states above the bowler column should be sorting by last name, not first name, this is common practice in wikipedia
  • ref 2, the source gives a publication date of 8 March 2010, not 8 April 2008
  • ESPNCricinfo -> ESPNcricinfo per our article on wiki
  • ref 5 needs the author adding
  • ref 6 is BBC Sport, not news and was published 27 April 2006 not 26 April 2006
  • ref 14 is BBC Sport not News

NapHit (talk) 22:24, 31 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

  • should be no space between ref 1 and the bracket
I still the space between there ref and the bracket, it should be right after the bracket with no space it and the bracket.
Removed space between as well. Around The Globeसत्यमेव जयते 06:39, 7 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • No reason for the font size to be below normal size, remove the coding that causes this
The table the font should not be reduced should be full size. NapHit (talk) 16:02, 6 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Resolved comments from The Rambling Man (talk) 08:19, 13 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Comments
  • Image captions are complete sentences, so use a full stop.
  • Are some of the earlier games 8-ball overs? If so it's important to note this (as, for instance, the economy is not representative of a 6-ball over).
  • When sorting by wickets, I'd expect to see runs used as the secondary sort differentiation.
  • I'd like to see, when sorting by wickets, tied wickets are then sorted by runs (i.e. 5/50 is better than 5/60). The Rambling Man (talk) 07:33, 10 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • EAS Prasanna vs B.S. Chandrasekhar (why the difference in use of full stops?)
Added full stops to Prasanna. Around The Globeसत्यमेव जयते 06:00, 10 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • Refs 11 and 12 have an odd usage of en-dashes. Would just normally be spaces.

The Rambling Man (talk) 08:29, 7 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]


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