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List of international cricket centuries by Mohammad Azharuddin

Featured list candidates/List of international cricket centuries by Mohammad Azharuddin/archive1

Nominator(s): —Vensatry _{(Ping me)} 08:03, 9 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Another centuries list, this time about the former Indian captain. I remember watching Azhar as a senior person playing alongside Tendulkar, Ganguly, Dravid and Kumble—all of them seem to have overshadowed his achievements. If anyone comes across a free image of Azhar, it would be highly appreciated! Look forward to your constructive comments and suggestions. —Vensatry _{(Ping me)} 08:03, 9 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Howzat! Resolved comments from Bald Zebra (Talk) 14:07, 14 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Comments

Here's a few comments to get the ball rolling. (see what I did there?)

There's one picture of him at Commons (File:Mohammad Azharuddin Sangeeta Bijlani.jpg) - different versions of this picture have been used on his article and a few others.
- Will try to upload a new version of the file before using it here —Vensatry _{(Ping me)} 19:07, 13 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  - Done —Vensatry _{(Ping me)} 06:13, 14 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]
"He was the first cricketer to cross 9000 runs..." → "He was the first cricketer to score 9000 runs..."
- Done —Vensatry _{(Ping me)} 19:07, 13 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]
"...remained the leading run-scorer until retirement." → "remained the leading run-scorer until his retirement."
- Done —Vensatry _{(Ping me)} 19:07, 13 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]
"Azharuddin was named the Indian Cricket "Cricketer of the Year"..." → "Azharuddin was named by Indian Cricket as their "Cricketer of the Year"..."
- Doesn't make a big difference. The next sentence follows the same pattern —Vensatry _{(Ping me)} 19:07, 13 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]
"Azharuddin made his Test and ODI debuts during the 1984–85 tour of England." → "Azharuddin made his Test and ODI debuts during England's 1984–85 tour of India."
- Done —Vensatry _{(Ping me)} 19:07, 13 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]
"Reaching his century in 62 balls,[15] In a match winning effort, Azharuddin set the record for the fastest century in the format.[16]" → "Reaching his century in 62 balls,[15] Azharuddin set the record for the fastest century in the format.

[16]" (it also looks as though these two references should be swapped around - #15 is the list of fastest centuries and #16 is the match scorecard)

Done —Vensatry _{(Ping me)} 19:07, 13 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

"His highest score of 153 not out was achieved in the later part of his career against Zimbabwe; he was involved in a record partnership of 275 with Ajay Jadeja." → "His highest score of 153 not out was achieved in the later part of his career in a match against Zimbabwe, during which he was involved in a record partnership of 275 with Ajay Jadeja."
- Done —Vensatry _{(Ping me)} 19:07, 13 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Just a general query (and I may be wrong on this, so bear with me!) - in the two tables, why is the Score column rendered as the row header? Would it be better to have the century number as the header instead?
- Similar lists are modeled like that —Vensatry _{(Ping me)} 19:07, 13 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Reference #4 has a hyphen in the title, please change this to an endash.
- Done —Vensatry _{(Ping me)} 19:07, 13 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Cheers, ★ Bald Zebra ★ ^talk 14:33, 13 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Nice job. Just a couple more minor points:

"As of March 2013..." - consider replacing the month and year with {{Monthyear}}; this should update this statement automatically and save anyone the job of having to manually update it every month.
"Azharuddin photographed in 2009." → "Azharuddin photographed in 2009" (as the caption is a short 'noun phrase' description rather than a full sentence, the full stop (period) isn't needed here, according to WP:CAPTION)
- Replaced with a complete sentence —Vensatry _{(Ping me)} 13:47, 14 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]
"Azharuddin scored his maiden Test century at the Eden Gardens and went on to score four more centuries till the end of his career at this venue." → "Azharuddin scored his maiden Test century at Eden Gardens and went on to score four more centuries at this venue."
"...when Sachin Tendulkar overtook the feat" → "...when Sachin Tendulkar overtook his total" (or perhaps "...when Sachin Tendulkar overtook his score")

Cheers, ★ Bald Zebra ★ ^talk 12:36, 14 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

All done and thanks for your comments —Vensatry _{(Ping me)} 13:47, 14 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Support - all comments resolved, all criteria appear to have been met, this list is a good all-rounder! ★ Bald Zebra ★ ^talk 14:07, 14 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Resolved comments from The Rambling Man (talk) 11:49, 24 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Comments

Link batsman first time.
"9000" vs "8,648" comma consistency!
Should link Test cricket first time of the use of "Test".
" a century of 74 balls " perhaps "a century from 74 deliveries"?
" has the fifth highest number" you said "joint-fifth" in the lead.
"after his debut" his ODI debut?
- Given the fact that he made both his Test and ODI debuts during the same tour, I don't think it's needed. —Vensatry _{(Ping me)} 11:38, 24 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Test 19 sorts out of order when sorting by score.
If you're using, surely you should be using Vadodara?
Retrieved dates should have consistent format.

The Rambling Man (talk) 18:35, 23 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Fixed all —Vensatry _{(Ping me)} 11:38, 24 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

The first para should have a sentence about the life-ban imposed on him, and possibly the decision of the High Court to lift the ban. ♛♚★Vaibhav Jain★♚♛ ^Talk ^Email 07:00, 1 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- Does that stuff really matter in these type of lists? —Vensatry _{(Ping me)} 17:44, 1 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  - A life-ban is a major thing in any cricketing career. ♛♚★Vaibhav Jain★♚♛ ^Talk ^Email 06:34, 2 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
    - Done —Vensatry _{(Ping me)} 20:33, 4 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Resolved comments from The Rambling Man (talk) 11:49, 24 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Comments –

In Tests, he made centuries against all nations except the West Indies and Zimbabwe. At that time!! Not against Bangladesh so the sentence should be rephrased.
- Added a note for clarity —Vensatry _{(Ping me)} 20:33, 4 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
The following year, he scored 108 in a man-of-the-match... → Which year?? You've not mentioned the year in the previous sentence.
- Done —Vensatry _{(Ping me)} 20:33, 4 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Reaching his century in 62 balls,[15] Azharuddin set the record for the fastest century in the format.[16] → Which is definitely not a record at the moment, so it should be mentioned.
- Done —Vensatry _{(Ping me)} 20:33, 4 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
''later part of his career in a match against Zimbabwe.. → No need of in a match, I guess
- Done —Vensatry _{(Ping me)} 20:33, 4 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Link BBC and ESPNcricnfo at 1st instances. Zia Khan 01:13, 2 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- BBC is already linked. —Vensatry _{(Ping me)} 20:33, 4 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  - BBC is linked twice! Zia Khan 16:20, 5 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
    - Pardon me, but I could not find it. —Vensatry _{(Ping me)} 19:00, 6 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
      - Why are publishers for refs 1 and 2 different? Zia Khan 19:20, 6 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Support– Meets the standards. Zia Khan 19:20, 6 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Comments from Harrias ^talk

On the whole a good list, as I've come to expect.

I agree with Zia Khan's comment about Bangladesh; a note would probably suit best, something like "Bangladesh, now a Test playing nation, did not begin playing Test cricket until seven months after Mohammad Azharuddin's final Test appearance."
- Done —Vensatry _{(Ping me)} 08:06, 5 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
I think that given the ban was what finished Azharuddin's career, it is certainly worthy of mentioning in the first paragraph; without that ban, he might have gone on to score more centuries, after all. Indeed, I think the current use of "..until his retirement." is misleading; he did not retire, he was banned; unless the various articles have given me completely the wrong impression.
- Done —Vensatry _{(Ping me)} 20:33, 4 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
"He scored a century in his last Test innings against South Africa in March 2000." Place "against South Africa" inside a pair of commas, otherwise the sentence gives the impression it was the last time he played Test cricket against South Africa, but that he could have played against other sides after that time.
- Done —Vensatry _{(Ping me)} 20:33, 4 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
I think (I might have miscounted, but I did count twice) that he is joint twenty-fifth, not twenty-sixth.
- Done —Vensatry _{(Ping me)} 20:33, 4 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
As Zia Khan alludes to above, although he mention his debut ODI century was two years after his debut, you don't specify in which year he made his debut.

Just mentioned that his ODI debut was mentioned in the prior paragraph, sorry. Still might be best to making it a little clearer though! Harrias ^talk 13:34, 4 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Done —Vensatry _{(Ping me)} 08:06, 5 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Given that Kolkata was officially named Calcutta until 2001, and his appearances all pre-date that, I think that Calcutta should be used in the list. Similarly for centuries made in Chennai/Madras prior to 1996. Not so sure about Bombay/Mumbai, which I think is a less clear-cut case.
- Done —Vensatry _{(Ping me)} 20:33, 4 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Test century #7, at Faisalabad, should presumably be listed as "Away". Harrias ^talk 13:33, 4 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- Done —Vensatry _{(Ping me)} 20:33, 4 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Support ♛♚★Vaibhav Jain★♚♛ ^Talk ^Email 10:42, 5 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Comments –

BCCI should be spelled out in the lead. Non-cricket fans like myself aren't going to know what this stands for at first glance.
"In a career that spanned for 15 years". Remove "for"?
"during the England's 1984–85 tour of India." Remove "the".
Period needed at the end of note 4. Giants2008 (Talk) 21:22, 6 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- All done —Vensatry _{(Ping me)} 05:01, 7 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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