Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/List of districts of West Bengal

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List of districts of West Bengal

Nominating this list for FLC review after a peer review was completed. Please add your comments/suggestions here.--GDibyendu (talk) 18:15, 18 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Conditional support -- Reduce the overlinking. I tried to remove some, but just clean up the rest where duplication occurs. Mention what a Paragana is. It would be an interesting addition as 24 Paraganas sounds interesting. Expand contractions such as "viz" =Nichalp «Talk»= 18:36, 18 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Taken care of the links: now only districts are linked twice, once in text and once in final table; if that is not desirable, please tell me which one should be kept, first occurrence only or only in the table. Pargana article is linked from 24 Parganas page, explaining what it means may be somewhat irrelevant for this list (concept of Pargana was abandoned long before West Bengal was formed), unless it is done in notes along with other Indian words used in various names like Purba, Zilla, Samiti, Sabhapati etc. Linked the former districts. If needed, I can add a small list of former districts like say, Former counties section in List of counties in Massachusetts.--GDibyendu (talk) 20:40, 19 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
~~Oppose~~ Support The lead and the geography section have no inline citations.—Chris! _ct 02:33, 20 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Though lead section is a summary of other sections (except tables), added refs for both lead and geography section. If you think any more refs are needed, then please mark corresponding sentence with citation needed tag. Thanks. --GDibyendu (talk) 06:43, 20 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  - Good, my concern is addressed.—Chris! _ct 00:52, 21 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Support. Nice work, Dibyendu.--Dwaipayan (talk) 05:07, 21 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Support: Has improved a lot since its peer review. --KnowledgeHegemony ^talk 09:01, 21 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Support, all issues resolved. Dabomb87 (talk) 20:13, 23 December 2008 (UTC) [reply]

Resolved issues, Dabomb87 (talk)

~~Oppose~~ from Dabomb87 (talk · contribs) Too many little prose problems, articles are missing, there are ambiguities, the flow is sometimes awkward. These examples are from the lead

"and its main distributary Hooghly flows southwards to reach Bay of Bengal."-->and its main distributary, the Hooghly River, flows southwards to reach the Bay of Bengal.
"The important Siliguri Corridor" Why is it important?
"The important Siliguri Corridor that connects North East India with rest of the India, lies in North Bengal region of the state. "-->The important Siliguri Corridor, which connects North-East India with the rest of India, lies in the North Bengal region of the state.
"Former princely state" Add a The at the beginning.
"Hooghly district" "district" should be capitalized.
"States Reorganisation Act" Add The before this.
"led to addition of Puruliya district" missing "the" before "Puruliya" (which is spelled wrong).
"West Bengal is now divided into 19 districts under three divisions." Either spell out 19 or write out three.
"Other districts are further divided into administrative units like subdivisions and blocks" "like"-->such as.
"the atomic ones" Be more specific than "ones". Dabomb87 (talk) 18:02, 21 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- I have made the suggested changes and similar ones across the sections. I have removed important form the sentence on the 'Siliguri Corridor', as importance is explained by the sentence. Please see whether these issues are resolved now. Thanks.--GDibyendu (talk) 18:49, 21 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  - OK, I looked over your changes and they are all good; I have not looked at the rest of the article. I was wrong about "District" being capitalized; rather, the Hooghly District article was wrong and I have moved it. I promise to finish commenting tomorrow. Good job so far, Dabomb87 (talk) 04:46, 22 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
"West Bengal is a unique state of India that has both the Himalayas in the north and the Bay of Bengal at the south." So how does that make it unique?
"The districts which are located at the north of the Ganges" "which"-->that.
"are often termed together as the North Bengal"-->are often referred to collectively as North Bengal.
"with effect from 1 March 1986" Do you mean to say that it was bifurcated on this date?
"With effect from 1 January 2002" Same here.
"Since 2007, the demand of a separate Gorkhaland state has been revived" "of"-->for.
"Kamtapur state covering"-->Kamtapur state that covers.
"DM is either an IAS officer or a WBCS officer and is appointed by the State Government of West Bengal."-->A DM is either a IAS officer or a WBCS officer, and is appointed by the State Government of West Bengal. Spell out what the abbreviations stand for.
"(also known as CD blocks or ~~simply,~~ blocks"
"A Panchayat Samiti is be headed"
"Third tier" Add The before thus phrase.
"and the MLAs" Spell out this abbreviation out too.
"panchayat" italicize this term.
"etc." Italicize per WP:ABBR
Disambiguation link needs fixing.
Why are Kolkata and 1947 in the "Total" row?
Refs 2, 12, 27 and 29 need format=PDF added to them. Dabomb87 (talk) 03:40, 23 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- I have made these fixes. I don't know why dabfinder is still showing Siuri as the only link to be fixed: I fixed it probably before nominating this page for FLC.--GDibyendu (talk) 08:20, 23 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  - Got the dab and fixed it: it was used in a navbox.--GDibyendu (talk) 08:25, 23 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Sources look good. Dabomb87 (talk) 20:13, 23 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Comments:
- Repetition of nineteen districts under three divisions. (in lead) and nineteen districts, grouped under three divisions: (before division list). Can the later be removed?
  - The lead section is a summary of other sections, as it was suggested during peer review.--GDibyendu (talk) 12:51, 29 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Repetition of West Bengal is bordered by three countries: Nepal, Bhutan and Bangladesh; and five Indian states: Sikkim, Bihar, Chhattishgarh, Orissa, and Assam. Sikkim and Bhutan are located at the north of the state, Nepal at the northwest, Bihar and Chhattishgarh at the west, Orissa at the southwest, the Bay of Bengal at the south, and Bangladesh and Assam are at the east. in Geography section and also in lead. Text from geo-section can be removed.
  - The lead section is a summary of other sections, as it was suggested during peer review.--GDibyendu (talk) 12:51, 29 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Repetition of Kolkata, the capital of the state, constitutes the Kolkata district in lead and geography section.
  - The lead section is a summary of other sections, as it was suggested during peer review.--GDibyendu (talk) 12:51, 29 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Gorkha Hill Council is a unique administrative body in WB (a Government within a Government). Add one sentence on what executive powers it holds over the region. Currently the 1 sentence speaks of power maintained by Darjeeling district administration, but not of GHC.
  - Good point. Will add that.--GDibyendu (talk) 12:51, 29 December 2008 (UTC) Done.--GDibyendu (talk) 13:32, 29 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- districts have more courts other than a District Court – not sure what more courts exist?
  - The ref for this sentence provides the list of other courts in various districts. However, there is no clear structure across the districts (it would have been if each subdivision would have had a court for example), so details are not noted here.--GDibyendu (talk) 12:51, 29 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Each district is divided into subdivisions, except the Kolkata district, which contains urban area only. Sentences after this talk of other districts with no mention of Kolkata Municipal Corporation being administrative body of capital city district.
  - Municipal Corporation is not exactly a district-level or subdivision-level authority. Sentences after this talk about subdivisions of other districts. Kolkata district does not have any subdivision. However, it can be mentioned.--GDibyendu (talk) 12:51, 29 December 2008 (UTC) Done.--GDibyendu (talk) 13:32, 29 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- After the Indo-Bangladesh enclaves sentence can one sentence for South Talpatti Island be mentioned under South 24 Parganas district as disputed territory claimed by India?
  - Yes. Though this type of info rather sounds in a trivia in a list of districts page, it can be added.--GDibyendu (talk) 12:51, 29 December 2008 (UTC) Done.--GDibyendu (talk) 13:32, 29 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

--GP Pande 11:28, 29 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Comment on repetition: I agree lead is summary of article, but exact duplicate of the sentences is not what is expected. In lead, only a point should be made like 19 districts - details of which can be put in sections below OR if it is just a point already mentioned in lead no need to mention it again in section below (example, what all surrounds WB). No need to repeat same at both places as it is already written at one place. Best example would be see India page - which says what all oceans and countries surround India in lead only not again in geo section. --GPPande 19:45, 29 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- I guess I have got your point. I have removed one repetition from lead section. I don't think any other cleanup on repetition point of view can be done, as it will destroy the flow of prose. Having said that, I appreciate your view on this. Most FL's have leads which are not summaries. Initially I kept it like that and kept only geographical info in lead, so there was no repetition. The change to summary-style lead was done as suggested in the review. BTW, India article is written on a vast topic and all of its sections are written in summary style. So, the lead there need not be a summary of summaries to a T.--GDibyendu (talk) 14:02, 30 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Comments from Kensplanet

Can we have Page nos for Directory of District, Sub division, Panchayat Samiti/ Block and Gram Panchayats in West Bengal, March 2008". The document is huge. Just citing the document is not at all helpful for any readeer. Use {{harvnb}} templates if required. Kensplanet^T_C 13:27, 29 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- The second page of the document contains intra-links for each district, where detailed info on constituent subdivisions and the GPs are provided. Also, each subdivision in the table is linked to a WP page that provides information on the subdivision (including info contained in this doc. That should be a lot of info for the reader.--GDibyendu (talk) 13:47, 29 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Works

Can you correct REF14 (Mandal, Asim Kumar (2003). ~~Google books preview from~~ The Sundarbans of India: A Development Analysis. Indus Publishing. ~~pp.~~ pp. 168–169. ISBN 8173871434. ) Kensplanet^T_C 14:50, 29 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Done. --GDibyendu (talk) 16:41, 29 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Support. All comments addressed. Kensplanet^T _C 18:40, 2 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Closing note: This candidate has been promoted, but there may be a delay in the bot processing the close. Please see WP:FLC/ar, and leave the {{FLC}} template in place on the talk page until the bot goes through. Matthewedwards (talk • contribs • email) 06:04, 4 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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