Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/List of Super Smash Bros. Ultimate tournaments/archive1

• "Each player has a percentage meter which raises" => "Each player has a percentage meter which rises"
• "(a fan-made mod of Super Smash Bros. Brawl, Project M, has also been played competitively)" - not sure how this relates to the rest of the sentence/is relevant
• "Ultimate released in November 2018 to critical acclaim" => "Ultimate was released in November 2018 to critical acclaim"
• "on route" => "en route"
• Street Fighter V should be in italics
• So should Injustice 2
• "Tournaments held outside of the United States require less entrants" => "Tournaments held outside of the United States require fewer entrants"
• Think that's it on the lead. I will look at the tables later -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 07:31, 29 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

• ChrisTheDude: Thank you for the review. I've made all the changes except for the Project M change. The reason for its inclusion is to detail the competitive history of the franchise. Many Ultimate players previously competed in earlier titles, including Project M. Do you suggest that I restructure that sentance to make that point explicit, or remove mention of Project M as immaterial to this specific list? The Squirrel Conspiracy (talk) 15:08, 29 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

• Ah, I see, I get it now. It would probably be better to say "Super Smash Bros. Ultimate is the fifth officially released Smash Bros. title and the Nth to be played competitively. A fan-made mod of Super Smash Bros. Brawl, Project M, has also been played competitively." If all five official games have been played competitively then say "Super Smash Bros. Ultimate is the fifth officially released Smash Bros. title; all five have been played competitively, as has a fan-made mod of Super Smash Bros. Brawl, Project M." Does that make sense? -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 15:13, 29 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

• ChrisTheDude: I didn't see your suggested wording until after I made my change to the article, but I went back and used your wording because it was more concise. I added the sentence "Many of the top ranked Ultimate players were highly ranked in previous Smash Bros. titles." to tie the paragraph together, and dropped "Ultimate was released in November 2018 to critical acclaim" down to start the next paragraph. The Squirrel Conspiracy (talk) 15:52, 29 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Comments on the tables

• The date column sorts in alphabetical order of month rather than in actual date order. Use a {{dts}} template to make them sort correctly.
• The prize pool column sorts on the symbol and amount, meaning than ¥0 is treated as a bigger value than $35,300. Use a {{sort}} template to make them sort in actual value order.
• In the caption on the third photo, Glutonny can't be in the centre of two people
• Presumably the B and C tournaments aren't listed because they aren't major? Should the title be List of Super Smash Bros. Ultimate major tournaments.....?
• Think that's it on the tables...... -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 18:34, 29 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

• ChrisTheDude: I've added sorts to the dates and prize pools, and made a new crop of the Glutonny pic so he's the only one in the photo. As for the name, I think List of major Super Smash Bros. Ultimate tournaments would be a good fit (moved the "major). I'll hold off on moving it until a few more voices chime in though. The Squirrel Conspiracy (talk) 02:09, 30 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

• You are right, that would probably be the best wording -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 07:21, 30 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

• Although I could understand, I think you should clarify that the tiers decrease in difficulty from S, A, B, to C. Also, do those stand for anything, particularly the S?
• I would shorten "Panda Global Rankings Ultimate" to just PGRU in the final paragraph of the lede.
• Not entirely necessary, but could you find a photo suitable for the lede image?

Nice job. ~ HAL333 17:18, 16 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the review HAL333.

I've linked to tier list and made the progression explicit.

I've made the change to Panda Global Rankings Ultimate in the last paragraph.

I scoured Flickr looking for a good crowd shot from a major and came up blank. I'll reach out to a few photographers and see what I can come up with.

The Squirrel Conspiracy (talk) 20:05, 16 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

• Link esports on first use.
• In light of the recent RFC on table captions (closed back in May) and how FLCs have to follow MOS:ACCESS, table captions should be included in both tables. This quote by PresN might apply to this list: "In the case that the table is the first thing in a section where the section header is essentially the same as what the caption would be, and therefore looks duplicative visually, you can make the caption screen reader-only with the {{sronly}} template, e.g. "|+ {{sronly|Example table caption}}" instead of "
• Lots of locations linked that shouldn't be per WP:OVERLINK; Toyko, New York City, Toronto, Los Angeles, London are the most glaring, but honestly most of them could be unlinked.
• As always, I'm not keen on the US-centric styling "City, State" for US locations, but simply "City, Country" for non-US countries, but this seems to be an argument I'm never going to win.
• The date ranges in the tables need endashes, not hyphens.
• The date for Glitch 7 needs a year adding.
• Make the Refs column unsortable.
• All the images require alt text per MOS:ACCIM, unless you consider them "purely decorative".

Overall a good quality list; mostly technical points to resolve. Note that I will claim WikiCup points for this review, and I would also appreciate it if you would consider taking a look over one of my own FLC nominations, such as Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/PCA Young Player of the Year/archive1. Harrias ^talk 07:59, 18 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Responses in the order of your comments above:

• Done.
• Done, I think. Please let me know if I got it right.
• Done. I delinked every city that didn't have a state in the article title.
• I'm open to an alternate style if you have one you prefer. Should I be adding the country to US locations or adding the state/province to non-US ones?

• I would add the country to the North American locations personally, though I note that you might not have the width to manage it. Possibly a note in the header, something like "Unless otherwise noted, location is in the United States"? (In which case, "Toronto, Ontario" would have to change to "Toronto, Canada".) Harrias ^talk 08:10, 20 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

• @Harrias: Done. I adjusted a few of the column widths and tested it at normal resolution and it looks fine. The Squirrel Conspiracy (talk) 19:56, 20 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

• Done
• Done
• Done
• Done. Not sure how useful they are, so feel free to make improvements if you think they need them.

Sincerely, The Squirrel Conspiracy (talk) 01:22, 20 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

• Ultimate was released on December 7, 2018 to critical acclaim → on December 7, 2018, to critical
• top ranked → top-ranked
• class="wikitable sortable" → use plainrow headers makes it better
• You added "! scope="row"" for one tournament; add it to all of the tournaments
• 2GG should sort under "two"
• The Big House 9 → sort under "Big House 9"
• Add a led image.
• Table references should be in the centre

• That's it from me. ~~ CAPTAIN MEDUSA^talk 18:51, 22 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

• Thanks for the review @CAPTAIN MEDUSA:. I've made all of the suggested changes. The Squirrel Conspiracy (talk) 21:05, 22 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

• Also, the lead image needs disambiguation for Tweek. ~~ CAPTAIN MEDUSA^talk 11:45, 23 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

• Done. The Squirrel Conspiracy (talk) 19:53, 23 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

• It's all aesthetics, but I preferred the references left aligned, to match the rest of the table. Harrias ^talk 14:40, 23 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

• I also prefer left-aligned for the same reason, but I looked at other FL candidates and they were all center aligned, so I decided to just do it instead of argue in hopes that the nomination would go smoothly. But since you brought it up, if it's not a deal-breaker for CAPTAIN MEDUSA, I'd prefer to change it back. The Squirrel Conspiracy (talk) 19:52, 23 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

• I always prefer references to be centred. ~~ CAPTAIN MEDUSA^talk 11:54, 24 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

• @CAPTAIN MEDUSA: Well, they are centered, and all of your other concerns have also been addressed. Is this good to go? The Squirrel Conspiracy (talk) 17:12, 24 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]