Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/List of San Francisco Municipal Railway lines/archive1

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The list was promoted by The Rambling Man 15:11, 21 February 2010 [1].

List of San Francisco Municipal Railway lines

Nominator(s): kur ykh 07:57, 17 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Featured list candidates/List of San Francisco Municipal Railway lines/archive1

There are actually no featured bus line lists on Wikipedia, so I'm going to try to make this the first one. I hope this will be some sort of trendsetter, if not simply a guide for similar lists. --kur ykh 07:57, 17 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Three quick things: symbols should be superscripted in the table to reduce clutter and the lead image doesn't need a period. Also, all images (including the navbox) need ALT text; pretend you're describing the image to someone over the phone. Mm40 (talk) 13:43, 18 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- Superscript symbols: The little symbols I took from List of Muni Metro stations, an earlier FL that I did, and it does not have superscript symbols. Nor do any FL rail station articles, at least those relating to the San Francisco Bay Area. --kur ykh 22:29, 18 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  - This is not a FL requirement, just a personal preference.—Chris!_c/t 02:35, 19 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
    - Oh. In any case, it's best to keep some consistency with the others. --kur ykh 05:44, 19 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- Lead image period: Done. --kur ykh 22:29, 18 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- ALT text: Done. --kur ykh 22:29, 18 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Comment - looks good to me. But I think this list can be even better if a little more info about the lines themselves is provided.—Chris!_c/t 22:15, 23 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Resolved comments from The Rambling Man (talk) 20:16, 3 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Comments

Can you source the claim that it's commonly referred to as the Muni? Should be straightforward...
- Removed claim entirely (all websites I looked at put it in parentheses instead). --kur ykh 23:16, 30 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
"when the A Geary-10th Avenue was inaugurated" shouldn't that say "... Avenue line was inaugurated ..."?
- Done. --kur ykh 23:16, 30 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
"revamps" not keen on this, doesn't read encyclopaedically if you get my drift...
- Done. --kur ykh 23:16, 30 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
"entire city plus some parts" ditto...
- Done. --kur ykh 23:16, 30 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
"have two parts to the name, for example, the "1 California."" not sure what this is getting at, and not sure this is a great example.
- Done. --kur ykh 23:16, 30 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Why are lines in bold? See WP:MOSBOLD...
- Done. --kur ykh 23:16, 30 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Express bus lines table goes haywire when I sort it, presumably because there's a rowspan in there somewhere...
- Fixed. --kur ykh 23:16, 30 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Defunct section could do with at least some words to explain itself, not just a link to a content fork.
- Changed to a "see also" section. --kur ykh 23:16, 30 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The Rambling Man (talk) 20:51, 30 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Comment Check the toolbox; there are a couple of dead links. Dabomb87 (talk) 04:10, 31 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- Fixed. --kur ykh 05:16, 31 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Support, all issues resolved. Dabomb87 (talk) 02:56, 7 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Resolved issues, Dabomb87 (talk)

Comments from Dabomb87 (talk · contribs)

"the current lines in use today." Spot the redundancy.
- Done. --kur ykh 01:17, 6 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
"routes serving the ~~entire~~ city and some parts" More redundancy.
- Done. --kur ykh 01:17, 6 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
"trolleybus" Is it really one word?
- Yes, see trolleybus. --kur ykh 01:17, 6 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
"run on five major corridors" "on"-->through
- Done. --kur ykh 01:17, 6 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
The portal link goes in the See also section, not External links.
- Done. --kur ykh 01:17, 6 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Dabomb87 (talk) 23:10, 5 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Resolved comments from Truco

Comments

General

Dab links, external links, alt text, and contributors check out fine.

Lead

In terms of ridership, Muni is the eighth-largest transit system in the United States, with 221,213,200 rides in 2008 -- why not riders?
- Done. --kur ykh 01:17, 6 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
The names of all Muni routes, except those of the cable cars, have two parts: a number or letter; and a street, neighborhood, or landmark, for example, the "1 California". -- remove the 'and'..thats what the semicolon is for...also is there suppose to be something after the "1 California" [train]?
- Removed the semicolon instead. The "1 California" is a bus, and in San Francisco, the entire line is just called the "1 California" or the "1". "Line" can be added if it is still confusing. --kur ykh 01:17, 6 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Would fares be a relevant addition to the lead?
- I don't think so; most people reading this article would have come from the main San Francisco Municipal Railway article, which does have a fares section. --kur ykh 01:17, 6 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

List

I'm confused, in the termini column, this is the street or the region/area/station? (for the cable lines)
- They are street intersections. --kur ykh 01:17, 6 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Since some of these are small tables, you don't have to link the same street over and over like Market, because each row can stand alone in small tables like this per WP:OVERLINK (just a suggestion).
- Done...somewhat. --kur ykh 02:14, 6 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Streetcar lines: The K Ingleside column entry needs to have the note underneath in parenthesis for a more formal presentation.
- Changed that to a note. --kur ykh 02:14, 6 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I think it should be noted somewhere that the termini of the lines are both stations and streets.
- Done as a note. --kur ykh 02:14, 6 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

--Truco ₅₀₃ 23:59, 5 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Support...if the 'line' word is added where I mentioned. Other than that, comments resolved meets WP:WIAFL.--Truco ₅₀₃ 23:43, 6 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- Done. --kur ykh 01:11, 7 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Support - Looks good to me. --Kumioko (talk) 19:54, 7 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

~~Comments:~~Support Harrias (talk) 07:12, 19 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I don't understand what you mean by "...for use within Muni operations."
- Fixed. --kur ykh 04:06, 19 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I agree with one of the other reviewers that there is no need to reference streets such as Market in every usage in short lists such as 'Cable car lines', but I would like to see it referenced throughout in 'Local bus lines', where at the moment it is in all but #6.
- Fixed. --kur ykh 04:06, 19 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Other than those two small points I think it is a nice list, well done. Harrias (talk) 22:11, 17 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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