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The list was promoted by Giants2008 17:08, 23 October 2012 [1].

List of Ryder Cup matches

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Nominator(s): NapHit (talk) 20:34, 5 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

With the Ryder Cup to begin at the end of the month, what better way to celebrate than with a list detailing the matches that have made up this great event. Thanks in advance for your comments. NapHit (talk) 20:34, 5 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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I agree, column now sorts by winning margin. NapHit (talk) 15:37, 9 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
That looks better.--DavidCane (talk) 21:17, 9 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Resolved comments from The Rambling Man (talk) 16:32, 10 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Comments
  • "every two years" you should note that this wasn't the case on one occasion.
  • "throughout the years" bit wistful, perhaps "throughout the history of the competition"?
  • "four four ball" -> "four fourball".
  • "However, Great Britain we..." -> "However they..."
  • "performance in 1933" followed by "The 1933 contest at " should the first be 1931?
  • "the last hole of the last singles " maybe mix it a bit, "the last hole of the final singles..."?
  • "eight foursomes and four balls" fourballs?
  • Jimenez has a couple of missing diacritics.
  • Consider ending the History section with a nod at the 2012 tournament...
  • Our article on Lytham St. Annes has a full stop after the St...

The Rambling Man (talk) 10:11, 10 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the comments TRM, I've addressed them all. NapHit (talk) 15:14, 10 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Resolved comments from Giants2008 (Talk) 20:09, 29 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Comments – Love the event, but have some reservations about the prose quality. The following are from the lead and first paragraph of History; I haven't even gotten to read most of the body yet.
  • Second "the" in "with the exception of the 2001..." should be taken out.
  • Comma after September 11 attacks would be better as a semi-colon.
  • "with players from each team playing contesting a one-on-one match." Removal of "playing" is necessary here.
  • Same edit needed in "they were unable to match the American's at the Scioto Country Club and lost 9–3."
  • "leaving Easterbrook with a putt to win the contest, which he made the putt...". Second "the putt" is a redundancy and is flawed in the flow of the sentence anyway. Giants2008 (Talk) 18:15, 13 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for the comments Giants, I've addressed them all. NapHit (talk) 18:48, 13 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    • First word of "Men's major golf championships" should be decapitalized.
    • Try not to have a sentence start with a number, like in "1963 saw the introduction of two sets of fourball to the format". 1977 is also like this.
    • Name typo in "which left Jackiln with a putt to tie the match."
    • Comma after Olazabal's name should be removed.
    • "The United States fearing for their safety requested the match was played a year later in 2002." "was" → "be"?
    • "in what was the United States heaviest defeat in the competition." Apostrophe needed at end of States.
    • Ref 11 needs a publisher (looks like BBC Sport). Giants2008 (Talk) 19:09, 20 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks again for the comments Giants, all been taken care of. NapHit (talk) 19:50, 20 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • "A fourball match, with two players from each team, each playing their own shot." This is a sentence fragment that is missing an element or two. Needs to be revised a bit.
  • History: "British captain Ted Ray cited the American's "superior putting" as the reason for their victory." "American's" → "Americans'", with the apostrophe moved.
Thanks again Giants, fixed those last two comments. NapHit (talk) 20:13, 29 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Comment The title is somewhat ambiguous and means that I am not sure what to expect from the list. "2012 Ryder Cup" is a Ryder cup match and this type of match appears in the list. However, within that you have (for example) "Furyk/Snedeker vs McIlroy/McDowell", which is also a match, and it is defined as such in the lead section when it talks about "foursomes match" or "fourball match". Is there any way that this can be made less ambiguous or are we stuck with the "match within a match" terminology? Thanks. --Jameboy (talk) 17:49, 28 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

You raise a good point, unfortunately I'm not sure how to resolve it. I can see how it can be ambiguous, but technically the competition as a whole is a match with a series of matches within it. If someone can up with a better solution then I'd be interested to hear it. For the time being I think we're stuck with the match within a match terminology. NapHit (talk) 21:23, 28 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support with one caveat- in the lead you say that the next match is in 2012; this is no longer true as it was played 2 weeks ago. Seems the infobox was updated but the lead was not. --PresN 18:07, 16 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Right you are, should of noticed that. Fixed. NapHit (talk) 20:17, 16 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
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