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List of Presidents of India

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Nominator(s): To ping me add {{ping|Force Radical}} OR [[User:Force Radical]] 08:58, 5 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I am nominating this for featured list because as a I feel that if this list gets featured it will be a giant step towards ccountering systemic bias on Wikipedia-To ping me add {{ping|Force Radical}} OR [[User:Force Radical]] 08:58, 5 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

• Support – I got nothing else. Great job! BeatlesLedTV (talk) 15:42, 7 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Comments from Vanamonde

• I'm new to FLC, but I'm fairly well versed with Indian politics, and I think this list does a very decent job of conveying the relevant information. Somebody less familiar with the topic should check the prose bits to make sure they make sense to folks who don't know the topic.
• I said this when I took a look at this before the FLC: the Janata Party and the BJP should not share a color (certainly not the BJP's official color). They were distinct parties, with distinct ideologies. Prominent members of the latter just happened to be members of the former during its brief period of ascendancy. Either just say "other parties" or, preferably, split them into two colors.
• Bit uncertain about the grammar of "Although the president is vested such powers by the Constitution of India", but that's a vague discomfort only, something for a more knowledgable person to check.

Vanamonde93-I have addressed your concerns,Please take a look-To ping me add {{ping|Force Radical}} OR [[User:Force Radical]] 11:02, 8 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Looks good. You've got a tiny sliver of white space because of the percentages in the pie chart not adding to 100. I'm willing to support now, though. Vanamonde (talk) 12:19, 8 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Removed silver by adjusting the percentages-To ping me add {{ping|Force Radical}} OR [[User:Force Radical]] 11:27, 9 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Comments from Yashthepunisher

• Link De facto.
• Mention alt text in Images.
• You can replace 'The President' with simply 'they' at few instances, to avoid repetitiveness.
• Remove 'current' from the last sentence and replace it with 'as of', per WP:RELTIME.
• Hindustan times --> Hindustan Times.
• How "mapsofindia.com" is a RS?
• m.indiatoday.in --> India Today
• I feel "presidentofindia.nic.in" should have a better name.

Yashthepunisher (talk) 17:28, 10 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

@Yashthepunisher:Could you please clarify your statements ( statements 3 and 8) -To ping me add {{ping|Force Radical}} OR [[User:Force Radical]] 08:01, 11 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I was talking about the prose in the lead where many sentences starts with 'The President' which can be replaced by 'they' in some instances. The fourth one has been fixed. Yashthepunisher (talk) 08:27, 11 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

@Yashthepunisher:-Done lease take a look(the content in ref 9 has been verified from other sources but since it is the most comprehensive it is used)-To ping me add {{ping|Force Radical}} OR [[User:Force Radical]] 08:42, 12 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

• Support this nomination. Yashthepunisher (talk) 08:53, 12 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose too much needs to be addressed for this to be supported at this time.

• What does "first citizen" mean?Clarified
• "The post of President is known in Hindi..." this sentence is unreferenced.Removed
• "... introduction of the post in 1950. The post was established ..." repetitive, could merge.Done
• "death of Zakir Husain, who died in office" somewhat tautological, perhaps "in 1969 after Zakir Husain died in office"?Done
• Inconsistent capitalisation of "president" throughout the lead.Done, as far as possible manually
• " as an independent candidate" this is oddly introduced before you talk (in the next para) about the political affiliations, suggest it's noted in one place.Done
• "They may remain... " reads odd here, I would make a new para, or move this to the first para which basically introduces the whole concept of President.Done
• "constitution of India" our article capitalises the C of constitution.Done
• Avoid single-sentence paragraphs.Done
• "the only person to be elected as an independent candidate." yet 47% of candidates were independent... did they only become independent after being elected?Removed
• Two decimal places seems excessively accurate here.Adjusted
• You can't use just colours to denote something, it's a failure of MOS:COLOR.Done
• Birth–Death doesn't need that capitalisation.Done
• The rowscopes should really be on the names of the presidents, not the number.Done
• Where is the data used to create File:Presidents by state of birth.png verifiable?Ref added
• Where you don't have an image of the individual, place a {{center|–}}.Done
• Candidate of [9] - would this be better as "Affiliation[9]"? Either way, lose the space.Done
• "holding office for 12 years as the only president to serve two terms in office.[10][11][5] " refs in numerical order, but more importantly, I though each term was limited to five years?Removed unsourced statement, Done
• "vice chancellor" is usually hyphenated.Done
• " received Bharat Ratna award" missing "the" ... and link the award.Done
• "He was the first President from South India." no ref.Done
• As the table is sortable, everything you've linked should be linked on every occasion.Done manually
• You could denote those who have died in office with a {{dagger}}.Done + some more of footnotes
• You could add another column for the duration of their tenure, especially as you note the "shortest" duration in the notes.

Not done. Out of 17, 12 presidents will have 5 years, only 5 others will have varied number of years

• Is it "Acting President" or "acting president"?Done manually
• "He resigned in a few months" after instead of in.
• "president during Emergency" again, missing a "The" here.
• Mysore state should be Mysore State to avoid piping to a redirect.
• "Muhammad Hidayatullah" or "Mohammad Hidayatullah"?All Done
• Punjab, India, not Punjab (India).

Not done .Denotes Punjab state of India (Not of Pakistan)

• "He has also" as he is dead, this should be "He also".
• Our article does not use a capital G for Governor of Rajasthan.
• Same for Bihar.
• Member of parliament links to a generic page, you could be more specific, on that page there exists three links to India-specific articles.
• What's BJP and RSS?
• Timeline could be coloured per political party and "acting" could be a symbol (e.g. *) after the acting president's names instead of the way you currently have it.
• Our article hyphenates "Vice-President".

All done

• Consistent date formats in the references.
• Consistent and long ISBNs please.

Both Not Done, Please clarify what you want, I didn't find any thing wrong with them

• You link Hindustan Times but none of the other works. Be consistent.Done

The Rambling Man (talk) 12:52, 16 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Duly noted, will try to do all by 26th November 2017.( Do not have time to do all just now )-To ping me add {{ping|Force Radical}} OR [[User:Force Radical]] 14:32, 16 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

@The Rambling Man:-The timeline part of the page has gone askew (behaving oddly in the legend portion ) after implementing your recommendation. -To ping me add {{ping|Force Radical}} OR [[User:Force Radical]] 07:55, 18 November 2017 (UTC)I have corrected the problem after tinkering the Wikisyntax -On a more important note, I have done some edits in accordance to your recommendations and would like you to do a status update (Of your comment or any subsequent new problems )-To ping me add {{ping|Force Radical}} OR [[User:Force Radical]] 10:41, 18 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

P.S:From what I know at DYK, you probably have the scripts to carry out your last two recommendations(Which I could not locate despite trawling through your monbook.js). Please do it for me(Despite you being the reviewer who asked it to be done)-To ping me add {{ping|Force Radical}} OR [[User:Force Radical]] 10:41, 18 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

The Rambling Man-I have done most of the edits suggested. Please take a look at the article and the notes above-To ping me add {{ping|Force Radical}} OR [[User:Force Radical]] 10:01, 19 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

The Rambling Man - Done All recommended edits after a bit of deliberation.Please take a look and reconsider your oppose-To ping me add {{ping|Force Radical}} OR [[User:Force Radical]] 09:13, 21 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Just noting that I may be unavailable to make any major changes to the article for this ensuing week due to heavy meat-space workload, that being said I will certainly keep track of changes to this nomination and be rest assured that I will respond to any improvements/suggestions (informing if I will have enough time to make those changes) within 96 hours. Thanks — comment added by Force Radical (talk • contribs) 04:24, 4 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Source review – Found a couple issues to look at, but it shouldn't be too much work.

• References 5 and 15 come from print publications, so the publishers should be italicized in each. Other than that point, the references are well-formatted, and they all appear to be reliable.
• The link-checker shows no dead links.
• Spot-checks of refs 10, 29, and 36 showed one issue: ref 10 doesn't support the 25 July date at all. In reality, it looks like the election took place earlier than the 25th, which was when his term started. That sentence should be fixed. Giants2008 (Talk) 21:39, 19 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Giants2008- Done-Checked 5 and 15 they are web sources(some software hitch was not going to the url but the archives worked), Also clarified Ram Nath Kovind statement with a citation — comment added by Force Radical (talk • contribs) 07:56, 21 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I cleaned up the formatting of the new reference a bit. With that, and the fixes, I'd say the source review is a pass. Giants2008 (Talk) 22:24, 23 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

• Closing note: This candidate has been promoted, but there may be a delay in bot processing of the close. Please see WP:FLC/ar, and leave the {{featured list candidates}} template in place on the talk page until the bot goes through. Giants2008 (Talk) 21:02, 24 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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